For the Girls : Abnormal Pap Smears, Anxiety, and Exercise
kaleas
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So I got a call from my doctor last week that my pap smear showed abnormal growths and I should go see a specialist. I was told it was probably nothing. Family and friends have said not to worry.
I went to a real gynecologist yesterday who explained my test results to me. They're high grade, not low grade. The chances of the growths being cancerous are 50%. He took a biopsy of my cervix, which has made sitting, standing, and moving around a bit uncomfortable. I'll know next week the results.
But the stress and anxiety this is causing is sickening. And I'm tired of telling people that I'm OK, and having them tell me that it's still probably nothing, because I'm not OK, and the depression I feel creeping in is scary.
On top of that, the last thing I've wanted to worry about is my diet and exercise. I haven't really counted calories. I haven't actually made a special trip to the gym. I've been biking and been doing my normal thing, but no strength training. I know I need to go. I know I need to stop eating ice cream, drinking, beer, and making dinner for people in hopes that it will make me feel better. I haven't been able to sleep, so instead of sleeping, I've been eating. I got weighed at the doctor and I'm still at 127.6. So I haven't lost, haven't gained, but it's still my goal for the end of the summer to get down to 120, and this isn't helping, but honestly, do I even care anymore? What is weighing 7 pounds less going to do for me?
So I'm really looking for anyone who has struggled through this, or had the same thing happen, or any kind of kick in the *kitten* to get my body moving again and caring about my diet.
I went to a real gynecologist yesterday who explained my test results to me. They're high grade, not low grade. The chances of the growths being cancerous are 50%. He took a biopsy of my cervix, which has made sitting, standing, and moving around a bit uncomfortable. I'll know next week the results.
But the stress and anxiety this is causing is sickening. And I'm tired of telling people that I'm OK, and having them tell me that it's still probably nothing, because I'm not OK, and the depression I feel creeping in is scary.
On top of that, the last thing I've wanted to worry about is my diet and exercise. I haven't really counted calories. I haven't actually made a special trip to the gym. I've been biking and been doing my normal thing, but no strength training. I know I need to go. I know I need to stop eating ice cream, drinking, beer, and making dinner for people in hopes that it will make me feel better. I haven't been able to sleep, so instead of sleeping, I've been eating. I got weighed at the doctor and I'm still at 127.6. So I haven't lost, haven't gained, but it's still my goal for the end of the summer to get down to 120, and this isn't helping, but honestly, do I even care anymore? What is weighing 7 pounds less going to do for me?
So I'm really looking for anyone who has struggled through this, or had the same thing happen, or any kind of kick in the *kitten* to get my body moving again and caring about my diet.
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(((hugs)))
I'm so sorry that this is happening to you! I can't even imagine how scared I would be.
...That being said, you know that you WILL feel better about everything if you get up and exercise, and at least make healthy-ish food choices even if you don't track anything.
Good luck with everything, you are in my thoughts!!!0 -
I would first find someone to speak to about your anxiety and everything else will just fall back into place once the results are back.
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I see we have the same starting weight, current weight and goal weight!
I have struggled with anxiety during different difficult physical times in my life, and found that I lost alot of weight b/c I was so anxious and not eating much. At this point, I wouldn't stress too much about trying to lose, but focus on eating as healthy as you can for your bodie's sake, enjoy your current family and friend relationships and try to take it one day at a time until you know for
sure what's going on. It is very hard to not worry but remember that God knows what is best for us and will help us through.
Try to get some sleep and walking and other exercise is actually pretty cathartic. Hang in there!0 -
I went through the exact same thing a few years ago. The biopsy sucked (despite what the doctor said) and it made things uncomfortable for about a week. My test results came out fine and have been clear for 2 years. I honestly wouldn't worry about anything until you know for sure; it is a lot more common than you would think. I would definitely suggest you get back on your normal patterns- eating right, sleeping regularly and working out. Things will turn out for the best.0
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I had cysts found on my ovaries several years ago. I ahd to ahve surgery to get them removed and the dr. took the ovary as the cyst was so large, it was unsafe to remove on its own. I had to deal with the "it could be cancerous" idea as well. It was stressful. No one understood and kept saying "don't worry about it. You can't do anything about it" comments. Made me crazy! Why couldn't I feel sorry for myself, scared, angry,.... I felt exactly as you do now. Why bother with anything. I just got hold of my daughter and wouldn't let go. We played more than usual, talked, sang songs,... spent time together.
Finally the surgery came in and luckily it was benign.
Give yourself a break, feel what you need to feel, talk to someone you feel comfortable with about it, and know that being scared is perfectly acceptable. Next time someone asks, tell them how you really feel. Either they will listen or not ask again!!!!
I will keep you in my thoughts. Hang in there. An answer will come, one way or the other. {{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}0 -
iv never had a smear / pap test for that exact reason!!
I couldnt stand waiting for the results, especially once i knew there was something out of the usual!
Im not going to say your ok, because if u were they wouldnt still be doing tests now..
But im going to say i hope ur ok, because i do.
Honestly if your that worried i would say push the diet aside until you find out.
You dont have to do the exercise, especially if its uncomfortable.
And i know people always say how you shouldnt comfort eat...
But sometimes it does help..
And im sure deep down your family are just as nervous as you are, there just putting on a brave face..
So good luck on getting good results.
Take care x0 -
First, breathe. Don't stress over what you can't control. You can't control the test results. They may be fine, they may not be, but wait for them. I recently read a quote (wish I could remember where now) "worrying about tomorrow only makes today miserable" (or something to that effect).
While 7 pounds may not make a huge difference, the route you take to get there will. You are building muscle, losing fat, and overall just becoming healthier - and that will make all the difference in the world. Whatever is will be, but you can work towards the future and make that better.
I have had an abnormal pap, had the biopsy, then a LEEP procedure. I can't tell you how my abnormal pap compares to yours as I just don't know. That was 10 years ago and I've had nothing else come back as anything but normal. It can happen. I know that you can also get bad news, but as I said above - worrying about that will not help today.
Hugs to you. I know its scary and just not fun. Try to relax and enjoy the here and now. :flowerforyou:0 -
Hello,
First cut yourself some slack and realize yoor feelings are not right or wrong just feelings. I have been anxious lately also. I had abnormal pap years ago it was uncomfrtable but it turned out to be nothing. Then last week I go to ER for fainiting and find meningioma, it should be nothing but 5% chance it might be someting, oh they'll re MRI in one year and let me know, yeah I know anxious. I also know negative thoughts hurt us not help us. So whatever life brings I know I'll be better off if I eat healthy and exercise. SO get your butt in gear, think positive and get moving!!! you'll be happier tomorrow looking back having done something then looking back and regretting you didn't.
Have a good day :-)
Marlene0 -
I had the same thing happen. Except mine were lower grade, I think. It's been 4 years ago so I don't remember exactly. I had two abnormal paps, 2 colposcopies, and 2 biopsies. They ended up doing a LEEP and removed part of my cervix. I haven't had any problems since. They removed all the bad cells and my paps have been normal ever since. I know it's scary, but as long as they get them, you SHOULD be fine. Everyone is different so I don't want to be one of those people saying everything will be just perfect because, of course, we're not doctors and don't know for sure, but try not to stress TOO much about it. I know that is super hard. Now I have 3 small fibroids (benign uterine tumors) and they are supposedly a non-issue as well. Supposedly a lot of women have them and don't know because they don't cause problems unless they get really large. The female reproductive system can be quite complicated sometimes!! :-/ I've read articles that it's becoming more of a problem because of all the estrogen in non-organic foods, soy products, etc.
Keep your chin up, stay healthy, and try to have faith in the doctors and, if you're a religious person, pray about it. We'll be thinking about you.0 -
Hi there,
I'm sorry you're experiencing this, I actually went through this in the fall/spring, it's terrifying.
So...here's the deal...worse case scenario ok? If it IS cervical cancer, it is highly treatable. Your gynecologist should have told you this to try to put your mind at ease. Should your tests results come back not so great, the treatment involved is a laser used to remove the layers of tissue until they get down to healthy tissue, and then you go every 3 months until you've had 3 normal paps. then you're good to go.
Do you have regular pap tests? I ask because it takes years and years for cervical cancer to reach an 'untreatable' stage. So, if this is the first abnormal test you've had, you're probably completely fine.
The results you've received are actually incredibly common, I know it's useless to say but don't stress out, it is VERY likely nothing. I know that that's easier said than done, but stressing out isn't going to do anything but make you feel worse. Take care of yourself and if you'd like to talk more about it you're welcome to message me.0 -
About five years ago, I had an abnormal pap test! I had a biopsy done, because the growths were severe and that type of cancer runs in my family. (My mother had it!) My biopsy came back that I had Pre cancer cells. I was so stressed that my stomach hurt for what felt like every second of everyday! And it was a few months before my wedding, and we were planning on having baby right away! I scheduled to have the pre cancer cells cut out in the beginning of September, (My wedding was in October) I had the choice of doing it awake or getting put to sleep, I opted to stay awake. (I recommend going to sleep!) I was up and running two days later! and was fine for my wedding! This October, I will be married for five years, and I hadn't had another abnormal pap, since. We also have a beautiful three year old girl! ( we did get pregnant right away, but I had a miscarriage, which had nothing to do with the surgery, just genetics!) We conceived her in March of 2007! She was born exactly on her due date, was a healthy 8lbs 1 oz, and we didn't have any issues! SO I would try to worry as little as possible! And as far as your seven pounds go, you are right it is only seven pounds, So seven pounds you might as well keep going! And if you stop watching a little, that could be seven pounds gained, beside it could give you something else to focus on! And don't forget the power of prayer. It helps me to ask God to control my thoughts, or to help me focus on something other than what is stressing me out!
I wish you the best of luck, and you'll be in my prayers! Hope I helped0 -
I had an abnormal pap 10 years ago. After that I had to go in & they did exploratory looking around with a camera then they found the suspicious area of cells. They said I had severe dysplacia, which is right before it becomes invasive cancer. I had to undergo cryo therapy where they froze the cancerous cells. There was discomfort but I have been good ever since. Paps are a great tool, no matter how uncomfortable they are, to watch for that kind of stuff before it does become a life threatening issue. Best of luck to you!!0
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Big hugs!!
I also had the abnormal pap/biopsy/LEEP in 2004. Mine was classified as the very beginning of cancer...not enough to be Stage 1 and all in one area. LEEPS are not glamorous by any means but it did get the job done. My tests have come back clear ever since. I also had two more kids after this wih the help of a cerclage (cervical stitch) even though I had an incompetent cervix to begin with and my dr. said I have the world's smallest cervix now. (Yeah...something is the smallest!! Gotta find the humor where you can.)
It's hard not to worry. Hang in there.0 -
I had an abnormal pap, followed by a cervical biopsy 4 weeks ago. Unfortunately, it didn't heal well at all and I was stuck with annoying spotting for 3 weeks. The results came back inconclusive because my cervix was too inflamed, so after inserting some awful gooey cream for a week I have to go back in 2 months to have it all done again. I'm not looking forward to it at all.
In the same breath, my first abnormal pap 6 months ago, where I had the same biopsies taken, went right according to plan - cells came back high risk and had to have another pap to follow up in 6 months (this one I just had).
I completely understand where you are coming from. Not knowing is terrible. I just imagine what would happen if I never went for that first pap. I could be completely unaware that I had high-risk changes, completely unaware of any treatments that may be available to me. I'm under the careful watch of a wonderful, patient man (who funnily enough is named Chester which makes me laugh EVERY TIME) who makes me feel at ease every time he peeks at my bits. I still get stressed when I think about going back next time. I got stressed while waiting for these results.
Strangely though.. Exercise kept me sane for the last 4 weeks. Although I was spotting (and sometimes more than spotting) for a lot of that time, the endorphins after exercising were uplifting. It was just getting to the gym and getting moving that was a struggle some days...0 -
I'm so sorry you're going through so much right now. When our health is affected, especially when we get scary test results, it's so hard to concentrate on anything else. My daughter went through the abnormal pap and she felt the same way you do. She got depressed, started eating a lot and withdrew from everyone. I kept going over to her house and made a BIG pest of myself. She has a hard time with depression anyway so this made it worse.
My biggest piece of advice I would give you to right now is to not withdraw from others. Talk to your family and friends. Go to a counselor if you need too. Don't let yourself get so depressed that you can't function (I know easier said than done). Drinking only worsens the depression so I would stop that as soon as possible.
I applaud you for continuing the cardio. When we exercise it helps with depression. Sometimes it can be hard to get up and do anything when we feel so bad inside. I know this sounds simplistic, but just make yourself go to the gym for your strength training. I tend to have a friend that I make an appointment with to go to the gym. That way I can't get out of it. I jump starts me again. (I suffer from depression also). Rely on others to help you through right now.
I don't know if you pray or not, but that helps me more than any of the other things I mentioned. God is a mighty force in my life and He has gotten me through so many things. Just let him know how you feel and what you're going through (He already knows) . Ask Him to help you. I also journal and write my feelings down. It really does help to get those thoughts out on paper. It's also a way to see how far you've come on your journey when you read them late.
I'll be praying for you. Take care of you and let others help. If you want to add me as a friend, I would love that.0 -
I really appreciate all the support. This is why you guys are an amazing group of people.
I've done research up and down since finding out, and realize that even if it is cervical cancer, it is highly treatable. It does run in my family, as every woman on my Mom's side, including her, has had it. I think my frustration more comes from the lack of support I have received from the people closest to me. They don't understand the fear and anxiety. After awhile, it gets hard to hold your head up and smile at them daily, and pretend that your mind isn't filled with questions.
I think my biggest fear is that, we try and be healthy. We exercise. We eat right. And yet, there are some things you can't just prevent. They still happen. Having this happen has made me realize that I'm not immortal. I could walk outside and die in some type of freak accident. I could get another type of cancer. I think it's something that at 22 is a scary realization when you're not invincible anymore.0 -
I did go through this--twice. But who knows if our situations are alike? I had six months of increasingly bad pap results (and no insurance!), when Planned Parenthood finally referred me to a specialist. He did a miserable "bit" biopsy where he sawed out 12 chunks of cervix (with no local--he didn't believe in it). The results came back negative. WTF, right? Normal paps after that for six years, then suddenly WHAM, abnormal again. And I still had no insurance. So my then boyfriend (now husband) proposed in order to get me insurance (he said he'd been wanting to for a long time, but feared I'd refuse). More biopsies, and again, nothing.
I have had a number of friends go through cervical cancer, many of them a decade or more ago, and every last one of them is fine now. You're going to be, too. Cervical cancer, if that is what's going on, is usually very treatable. I'm not going to tell you to stay positive all the time--sometimes a good cry is as good as positive thinking, if not better. But try to remember that you're young, strong, and you're on top of this thing, whatever it may be.
Thinking of you,
Kris0 -
I've been in this exact situation just a couple of weeks ago. My abnormalities were moderate to severe and I had to have the cells removed from the cervix using a burning method with a loop tool. It was an uncomfortbale procedure but by no means painful and I am back in to the see consultant on the 21st July to see how I'm getting on. I feel everything has healed nicely though and hopefully I don't have to go through that ever again.
I did get very anxious about it too, especially seen as it all stemed from my first ever smear test at the age of 25 last Nov (2010). After I had the treatment I sunk into a depressed state thinking about the worse case scenarios and bombarding myself with nothing but bad thoughts. I look back know and think "who were you and why were you thinking like that!?" But at the time I didn't realise how much it could mentally affect you... and it can hit you hard. But trust me, you are in the best hands possible and the doctors will look after you. There is no chance of the cells developing into anything sinister if they are detected and dealt with and the smear is used to regularly check for these things.
I know how it feels when everyone is telling you it's going to be ok when they don't really know that for sure but try not to worry too much and ask your doctor all the questions that are playing on your mind so you have direct answers. Take it easy and put the diet/exercise thing to the back of your mind if it helps. I found it good to try and focus on somethign else, keeping myself busy so my thoughts wouldn't run away with me.
Wishing you all the best for the near future.0 -
As a bladder cancer survivor, I can speak to your situation. Let me first say how sorry I am that you are going through this and I pray your results come back clear. For most people, the mere thought of having cancer is terrifying and can consume all your thoughts so it is no surprise that your focus has waned.
In a way, my cancer diagnosis is kind of the reason I’m here now fighting for my life in another way. When I had the reoccurrence in ’06, the fear, treatments and surgeries were very traumatic for me, so to deal with the stress I ate and drank anything and everything I wanted. I convinced myself that I had the right to do this because after all, I was using all my energy to fight the monster in my body.
Long story short, I haven’t had a tumor in over a year, Praise God! However, the 50 or so pounds I’ve gained since over the last few years added to my problems by increasing the depression, inducing hypertension and made me a borderline diabetic. Now I’m trying to undo the damage.
You are so close to your goal weight that I think it would be okay to give yourself a break to allow yourself to fight the battle if your results are not favorable, just don’t use the disease (like I did) to neglect taking care of yourself. Good luck dear, please let us know how things go.0 -
So the results came back that I have moderate dysplasia, stage 2 that's considered high grade. My doctor wants to perform a LEEP to remove the part of my cervix that it's on, and also be able to run tests on the removed section for any deeper cells that may exist.
Reading online, I'm not really sure how comfortable I feel with a LEEP. There is a change with stage 2 that it'll clear up on its own, but a good chance it'll spread as well.0 -
So the results came back that I have moderate dysplasia, stage 2 that's considered high grade. My doctor wants to perform a LEEP to remove the part of my cervix that it's on, and also be able to run tests on the removed section for any deeper cells that may exist.
Reading online, I'm not really sure how comfortable I feel with a LEEP. There is a change with stage 2 that it'll clear up on its own, but a good chance it'll spread as well.
What are your concerns about the LEEP?0 -
I too went through the same situtation. I had never had a pap smear until I got pregnant with my daughter who is now 14. My mom really never talked to me about those things and I didn't know I need to get one. So when the OBGYN checked me out he said I needed one and sure enough it came back abnormal. I had mild displasia. I was so scared. I was 21 years old and felt sick at the thought of the word "Cancer". That being said I had a leep done and have had all normal paps since.
I hated when people told me not to worry, it is impossible.
Just know that God is with you always and you will be in my prayers.
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Some people described being able to smell their flesh burning during the procedure. Although the potential complications are small, there is a chance that it will effect pregnancy later on in life, making it easier to miscarry and during childbirth. Granted, this is also based on how much they take out. Also the chance of infection is really high as well. I've never been one to go to doctors and tend to stick to more natural forms of healing, and this seems rather invasive.0
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I've never been one to go to doctors and tend to stick to more natural forms of healing, and this seems rather invasive.
I'm the same way and completely agree with you here. However, if you go the natural route, I would still keep in touch with your doctor to make sure everything is getting better, not worse. Rosemary Gladstar has a book you might be interested in, "Herbal Healing for Women."
Best of luck.0 -
I was awake for mine. You can smell the burning smell. That's not really a huge deal....an annoyance similar to hearing a dentist drilling in your mouth. I had similar concerns about future pregnancies because I already had a preemie when I had my LEEP. I went to a specialist to have mine done specifically because of this. He removed the absolute minimum he could. Still with barely any cervix left to stitch, I had two perfectly full term babies after.
I guess you have to ask yourself which concerns you more...potentially having cancer issues since I think I remember you saying you have a family history of it or potential pregnancy problems. With so much cancer in my family AND a preemie history I still opted for the LEEP because if I was sick with cancer, there weren't going to be any babies to worry about.0 -
Hello. I went through the same thing about 4 years ago. I am not going to tell you don't worry because you can't help it. If anything, try to go for walks and make sure to listen to music. I wouldn't talk to to many people about it even though you think you may feel better. A lot of people can scare you instead of making it better, trust me. I heard so much. Long story short they were pre-cancerous, I had the surgery and I was fine. Had to rest for a week. I really felt no pain. Everybody made it seem so bad who has been through. Do I like it? No, but it could have been worse. Plus nobody can really compare because everybody is different. You will have to get paps a few times in a year now until they have been cleared for a certain amount of time. What I can tell you is I have Kaiser now so I get all my results for any kind of test that night or the next day. It was a lot better then my old insurance which would take a week, it was hell then. God bless and just keep yourself busy.0
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