Losing weight with unhealthy food
Dorian1988
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Should I feel guilty I'm having frozen pizzas and other junk food even if I stick to my goal calorie intake? I realise this will mean that I'll eat less throughout the day than if I had healthy food.
I'm not talking about health here but strictly if it affects the rate of weight loss.
I'm not talking about health here but strictly if it affects the rate of weight loss.
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Google Twinkie diet. While no its not healthy you will lose if you maintain a caloric deficit. You should also take a daily multivitamin since foods like this are micronutrient deficient.4
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No. Save your guilt for the morning you run over the neighbor's dog. Don't waste it on pizza.46
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Be aware you are setting yourself up for health problems down the road if this is a consistent thing.4
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Or why not have a diet that consists mainly of nutritionally dense food and suitable calories?3
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Packerjohn wrote: »Or why not have a diet that consists mainly of nutritionally dense food and suitable calories?
I'm very much aware of what I'm supposed to do. But sometimes I just fall pray to the ever growing cravings.9 -
Packerjohn wrote: »Or why not have a diet that consists mainly of nutritionally dense food and suitable calories?
Because pizza.
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Dorian1988 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Or why not have a diet that consists mainly of nutritionally dense food and suitable calories?
I'm very much aware of what I'm supposed to do. But sometimes I just fall pray to the ever growing cravings.
Notice I said "mainly". Some junk food doesn't hurt but whenough it gets to a point it impacts your calorie/nutrition goals it becomes an issue.
I've see various sites that suggest 80-90% of calories should be from nutritionally dense food, the rest from wherever.1 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Or why not have a diet that consists mainly of nutritionally dense food and suitable calories?
Because pizza.
I think it's that double z in pizza that makes me forget about any logical rationing.11 -
Dorian1988 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Or why not have a diet that consists mainly of nutritionally dense food and suitable calories?
I'm very much aware of what I'm supposed to do. But sometimes I just fall pray to the ever growing cravings.
Chances are you're body is craving something more nutritious, but are mistaking them for junk food. It's okay to indulge in pizza once in a while, just don't go overboard with it.2 -
beatyfamily1 wrote: »Dorian1988 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Or why not have a diet that consists mainly of nutritionally dense food and suitable calories?
I'm very much aware of what I'm supposed to do. But sometimes I just fall pray to the ever growing cravings.
Chances are you're body is craving something more nutritious, but are mistaking them for junk food. It's okay to indulge in pizza once in a while, just don't go overboard with it.
No trust me I'm not mistaking anything. After 2 weeks of diet I'm having enough healthy food, fill full, but the junk food cravings are stronger than ever. It's simply a self distructive desire induced mostly by out society (comercials everywhere, they get into your mind without you realising)8 -
Dorian1988 wrote: »beatyfamily1 wrote: »Dorian1988 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Or why not have a diet that consists mainly of nutritionally dense food and suitable calories?
I'm very much aware of what I'm supposed to do. But sometimes I just fall pray to the ever growing cravings.
Chances are you're body is craving something more nutritious, but are mistaking them for junk food. It's okay to indulge in pizza once in a while, just don't go overboard with it.
No trust me I'm not mistaking anything. After 2 weeks of diet I'm having enough healthy food, fill full, but the junk food cravings are stronger than ever. It's simply a self distructive desire induced mostly by out society (comercials everywhere, they get into your mind without you realising)
There's nothing wrong with satisfying your cravings within your caloric goals. It sounds like you're doing just fine with nutritious food and then just sometimes you want something different. Have it. I eat pizza once per week, I have single serve cups of ice cream once or twice per week, and I have a glass or two of wine whenever I want. I know that I'm eating enough good and nutritious food that it doesn't do any harm.
You have to be able to sustain what you're doing. It sounds like you need pizza...in reasonable portions...to do this. You do you.9 -
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Dorian1988 wrote: »beatyfamily1 wrote: »Dorian1988 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Or why not have a diet that consists mainly of nutritionally dense food and suitable calories?
I'm very much aware of what I'm supposed to do. But sometimes I just fall pray to the ever growing cravings.
Chances are you're body is craving something more nutritious, but are mistaking them for junk food. It's okay to indulge in pizza once in a while, just don't go overboard with it.
No trust me I'm not mistaking anything. After 2 weeks of diet I'm having enough healthy food, fill full, but the junk food cravings are stronger than ever. It's simply a self distructive desire induced mostly by out society (comercials everywhere, they get into your mind without you realising)
As long as you're meeting your nutritional goals and staying within your calorie goal, the only thing that's creating a self-destructive environment is you telling yourself that you shouldn't have pizza (or whatever other kind of food you want). For a lot of people, just that thought pattern is enough to create cravings. After you've met your basic nutritional needs, fill the rest of your calories with whatever you want.4 -
If you take away favorite foods entirely, you'll likely fail at your health goals. A little pizza or a bit of bacon once in a while won't kill you.
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It's simply a self distructive desire induced mostly by out society (comercials everywhere, they get into your mind without you realising)
You're blaming your indulgences on commercials? Do you own one of every car? A pantry full of maxi-pads? If not, then you can obviously resist their influence.
Commercials aren't your or society's problems.4 -
Pizza and Beer and Candy are diet staples for me. Hasn't affected my weight loss unless I eat/drink too much of it.3
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Depending on what you have on your pizza it can have plenty of nutritional value. Maybe a little calorie heavy in relation to vitamins and minerals, but far from being a food that is nutritionally empty. Stop feeling guilty about eating pizza. It is fine as part of a balanced diet.0
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beatyfamily1 wrote: »Dorian1988 wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »Or why not have a diet that consists mainly of nutritionally dense food and suitable calories?
I'm very much aware of what I'm supposed to do. But sometimes I just fall pray to the ever growing cravings.
Chances are you're body is craving something more nutritious, but are mistaking them for junk food. It's okay to indulge in pizza once in a while, just don't go overboard with it.
there is nothing wrong with pizza.
it has dairy, veggies, sometimes protien.
and sometimes the body just craves it3 -
It's simply a self distructive desire induced mostly by out society (comercials everywhere, they get into your mind without you realising)
You're blaming your indulgences on commercials? Do you own one of every car? A pantry full of maxi-pads? If not, then you can obviously resist their influence.
Commercials aren't your or society's problems.
He's suggesting he is thinking about pizza because of the frequent commercials-which is exactly why companies pay millions of dollars to put them on the air.
I don't see him talking about indulgence-let alone blaming anyone or anything for it.7 -
Just my 2 cents worth here.
Ok if you're eating a lower calorie diet, yet you will lose weight, BUT in my opinion you're setting yourself up for failure. I have dieted so many time over the last decade it's not even funny, and every time I have fallen off the wagon and gained all the weight plus more back.
This time I am cutting out as much processed food as possible, I am eating lots of healthy fats such as avocado and fish, and am not eating any refined added sugar at all (or if I DO end up having a small something such as Mayo or mustard that has added sugar I make sure it's a small amount). This time is different, I feel different, I feel like it's sustainable and I've never felt like that at all, ever about a diet. The last time I dieted I would save calories during the day for chocolate at night, and I was always hungry..... So so sooooo hungry, all day. Now I am rarely hungry during the day, by mealtimes yes, but not hungry enough to scarf down 5 doughnuts like I would have done before.
If you want to eat frozen pizzas every night, and you're only counting calories, go for it, but if you want to change your health as well, change your eating habits. 3 -
It's simply a self distructive desire induced mostly by out society (comercials everywhere, they get into your mind without you realising)
You're blaming your indulgences on commercials? Do you own one of every car? A pantry full of maxi-pads? If not, then you can obviously resist their influence.
Commercials aren't your or society's problems.
He's suggesting he is thinking about pizza because of the frequent commercials-which is exactly why companies pay millions of dollars to put them on the air.
I don't see him talking about indulgence-let alone blaming anyone or anything for it.
I haven't had cable for a year and haven't seen a commerical for God knows how long but I eat pizza all the time because Pizza is awesome.2 -
I don't understand why people are picking on pizza. It's flour/water/yeast (so pretty much bread), cheese (dairy), tomato sauce (vegetable), and whatever topping you want (meat, veggies, etc.) I eat 1-2 servings of bread a day, plenty of dairy, vegetables, and meat. Not necessarily in pizza form but the ingredients are the same.18
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It's simply a self distructive desire induced mostly by out society (comercials everywhere, they get into your mind without you realising)
You're blaming your indulgences on commercials? Do you own one of every car? A pantry full of maxi-pads? If not, then you can obviously resist their influence.
Commercials aren't your or society's problems.
He's suggesting he is thinking about pizza because of the frequent commercials-which is exactly why companies pay millions of dollars to put them on the air.
I don't see him talking about indulgence-let alone blaming anyone or anything for it.
I haven't had cable for a year and haven't seen a commerical for God knows how long but I eat pizza all the time because Pizza is awesome.
I don't know how this is a response to my comment.
Who said commercials are the only reason someone is going to think of something?0 -
beatyfamily1 wrote: »Be aware you are setting yourself up for health problems down the road if this is a consistent thing.
for eating frozen pizza? really?
interesting.10 -
beatyfamily1 wrote: »Be aware you are setting yourself up for health problems down the road if this is a consistent thing.
for eating frozen pizza? really?
interesting.
If frozen pizza is all you eat, then of course! Pizza is great for an occasional thing, once a week, or once every 2 weeks as a not so healthy meal, but you can't really compare a frozen pizza with a salad, or salmon and broccoli can you now?
There is a lot of fat in pizza, sugar, and additives and preservatives, it's certainly not the food of champions now is it?
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Labeling food healthy or unhealthy is unhealthy imo.16
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louisepaul16 wrote: »beatyfamily1 wrote: »Be aware you are setting yourself up for health problems down the road if this is a consistent thing.
for eating frozen pizza? really?
interesting.
If frozen pizza is all you eat, then of course! Pizza is great for an occasional thing, once a week, or once every 2 weeks as a not so healthy meal, but you can't really compare a frozen pizza with a salad, or salmon and broccoli can you now?
There is a lot of fat in pizza, sugar, and additives and preservatives, it's certainly not the food of champions now is it?
OP is not eating only frozen pizza. OP is eating plenty of nutritious food. No one is comparing anything.4 -
louisepaul16 wrote: »beatyfamily1 wrote: »Be aware you are setting yourself up for health problems down the road if this is a consistent thing.
for eating frozen pizza? really?
interesting.
If frozen pizza is all you eat, then of course! Pizza is great for an occasional thing, once a week, or once every 2 weeks as a not so healthy meal, but you can't really compare a frozen pizza with a salad, or salmon and broccoli can you now?
There is a lot of fat in pizza, sugar, and additives and preservatives, it's certainly not the food of champions now is it?
who only eats frozen pizza outside college crowd and even they throw in some mr noodle.
even in the op he said
"I'm not talking about health here but strictly if it affects the rate of weight loss."
Even Frozen pizza isn't bad for health. The one I eat has 11grams of protein per serving, 270 calories, 15 grams of iron, 27 grams of carbs and 11 grams of fat...
but that doesn't explain how eating frozen pizza in this instance is setting him up for health issues down the road.
ETA: I save calories for chocolate and I am never hungry through the day...unless it's after DL day.8 -
louisepaul16 wrote: »beatyfamily1 wrote: »Be aware you are setting yourself up for health problems down the road if this is a consistent thing.
for eating frozen pizza? really?
interesting.
If frozen pizza is all you eat, then of course! Pizza is great for an occasional thing, once a week, or once every 2 weeks as a not so healthy meal, but you can't really compare a frozen pizza with a salad, or salmon and broccoli can you now?
There is a lot of fat in pizza, sugar, and additives and preservatives, it's certainly not the food of champions now is it?
Where did OP say he is only eating frozen pizza? It looks like he has indicated he is also eating a lot of nutrious things.4 -
There is NOTHING wrong with pizza...NOTHING.
It contains carbs, fats, calcium, lots of protein, good micros from the veggies...
Huh? Setting up for failure? No way.louisepaul16 wrote: »Just my 2 cents worth here.
Ok if you're eating a lower calorie diet, yet you will lose weight, BUT in my opinion you're setting yourself up for failure.
Cutting out food caused me to yo-yo diet, binge, restrict, binge, starve, over-exercise, binge some more, obsessively think about food all day, emotionally beat myself up over binging. NOT healthy.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10390604/84lbs-down-more-than-half-way-there/p1
My 80+lbs loss is PROOF that you don't have to eat healthy or cut out foods to lose weight. Actually, before this, I was eating clean healthy vegetarian....I ballooned up to 260lbs and my blood panels were AWFUL. Now, fast forward 2ish years, my blood panels are perfect, yes perfect, I am 85lbs down....and I did not eliminate anything. If I want oreos, I will eat oreos. If I want a burger, I'll change my diary around for calories and include it. I count calories. I eat EVERYTHING that I LIKE in moderation. Restricting foods was how I got myself into the horrid binge-starve-binge cycle, so food is food is food to me.
I say PFFFFTTTT to elimination diets unless for medical reasons.
A calorie.. is a calorie.
SO much this:ncboiler89 wrote: »Labeling food healthy or unhealthy is unhealthy imo.
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