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Yes, I decided at 48 years old, I need a fitness challenge. In the past I have done weight training, but recently while training for a triathlon, trying to incorporate 3 different cardiovascular exercises, I have only been doing upper body weights. I feel like my lower body is taxed by each cardio exercise, sometimes to the max, and if I incorporate too much lower body weights, I may over train and case more issues with an old knee injury. My legs are pretty athletic (i.e. muscular, not skinny legs!) to start with, and have always been pretty strong, but my upper body definitely needed more definition and strength. I am making a mistake by not training more lower body? Right now, I am pretty taxed on time and lack of sleep due to my schedule and work (I work ER, so many overnight shifts). Thoughts?

DrDenise

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  • mikeyrp
    mikeyrp Posts: 1,616 Member
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    Looking to do one in 2013 (Marathon is my 2012 challenge).. Interested in following this thread.
  • FemininGuns
    FemininGuns Posts: 605 Member
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    In my opinion: possibly replacing one of your cardio sessions in a week with a good leg workout would be a key. Lifting can increase your cardiovascular endurance just as much as other cardio sessions (especially squats). The thing with lifting is that it would work 'different' muscles that can help support other exercises & prevent injury. Plus, it will help with NOT overtraining with running/cycling etc... If lifting is not conducive to your schedule - you may want to incorporate 'rubber band' exercises for your lower body to help compliment your training. When I trained for marathons, I always did upper and lower body workouts throughout the week and I did best on the times I kept consistent in the gym.
  • bailey1981
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    I'm not sure whether you should choose one or the other to be honest.
    I am also training for my first triathlon (which is a week on Sunday eeek!!). I have been training with a personal trainer every other week who specialises in triathlon. He himself competes at ironman twice a year = mentalist!!
    He has been focusing on the bike, so lots of spin sessions, lots of interval sessions on the bike, followed by brick sessions straight into running. So I guess there's been quite a bit of focus on legs but it has still been very much focused on the 2 disciplines (I've not focused so much on the swim as that is my strongest discipline).
    I think you definitely need to get the lower body used to the transitions. I know when I first started if felt like me hips had seized up!!
    He has also told me to do a lot of strength and conditioning work which focuses on the core- so lots of press ups, planks, monkey walks, leg raises etc.
    I hope that helps x
  • drdenise
    drdenise Posts: 87 Member
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    Definitely trying to get used to transitions. I have biked to the YMCA to swim for 30 to 60 minutes, then biked another 20+ miles right after. Also have biked on a trainer for 30 to 40 minutes, then switched shoes and ran for 2.5 miles on the treadmill.
    I guess I was wanting to "wimp out" on the lower body weights, wanted an excuse. Maybe I will try to swim and lower body in one day, and upper body and treadmill in another. Do you think once a week for each, upper and lower?

    Thanks for the input everyone!
  • AZTrailRunner
    AZTrailRunner Posts: 1,199 Member
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    I've done close to 30 triathlons, ranging from sprints, double-sprints, olympic, up to several 1/2 Ironman distances, so I thought I'd throw my 2cents in.

    Training for triathlons is very demanding on even a retired-person's schedule. To answer your question - YES, you should still incorporate strength training for your legs as much as you do for your upper body. I would, however, choose exercises that incorporated the most muscles AND your core in one movement - ie. powerlifting moves - squats, deadlifts, power cleans, and military presses (or shoulder press). You may want to look into kettlebell exercises as well. They are great for full-body strength training. Just avoid doing "bodybuilding" workouts, as adding bulk without real strength is not what you are looking for (whole nuther discussion).

    I typically scheduled a swim session the day after heavy leg exercises since the legs aren't used much for the swim. Having powerful legs will do nothing but bolster your overall performance, and strengthen the little muscles not hit by running or cycling.

    Your weekly workouts will likely never be the same week-to-week. I used to do every event plus strength training 3 times per week (3 runs, 3 rides, 3 swims, and 3 strength). Some weeks will have 1 extra run, 1 extra ride, 1 extra swim, 1 extra strength, and 1 extra day off. This keeps your body from overtraining in one particular discipline.

    "Brick" workouts are done to make your transition smoother. I would set up my transition area at a park, do a short hard ride, then transition to a short run... and repeat 3 -4 times. It is it's own workout, and doesn't really need to be practiced much until you get within 3-4 weeks of the race.
    Man, I love talking this stuff!
  • AZTrailRunner
    AZTrailRunner Posts: 1,199 Member
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    bump
  • crux
    crux Posts: 454 Member
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    I've done close to 30 triathlons, ranging from sprints, double-sprints, olympic, up to several 1/2 Ironman distances, so I thought I'd throw my 2cents in.

    Training for triathlons is very demanding on even a retired-person's schedule. To answer your question - YES, you should still incorporate strength training for your legs as much as you do for your upper body. I would, however, choose exercises that incorporated the most muscles AND your core in one movement - ie. powerlifting moves - squats, deadlifts, power cleans, and military presses (or shoulder press). You may want to look into kettlebell exercises as well. They are great for full-body strength training. Just avoid doing "bodybuilding" workouts, as adding bulk without real strength is not what you are looking for (whole nuther discussion).

    I typically scheduled a swim session the day after heavy leg exercises since the legs aren't used much for the swim. Having powerful legs will do nothing but bolster your overall performance, and strengthen the little muscles not hit by running or cycling.

    Your weekly workouts will likely never be the same week-to-week. I used to do every event plus strength training 3 times per week (3 runs, 3 rides, 3 swims, and 3 strength). Some weeks will have 1 extra run, 1 extra ride, 1 extra swim, 1 extra strength, and 1 extra day off. This keeps your body from overtraining in one particular discipline.

    "Brick" workouts are done to make your transition smoother. I would set up my transition area at a park, do a short hard ride, then transition to a short run... and repeat 3 -4 times. It is it's own workout, and doesn't really need to be practiced much until you get within 3-4 weeks of the race.
    Man, I love talking this stuff!

    Hey AZTrailRunner, you around?

    sorry to resurrect a thread but...

    Your one of the few Triathletes I have come across doing 3 strength sessions each week. I'm interested in how you scheduled everything, 3 training sessions of each event & 3 strength workouts per week must be tough on the legs especially if it was heavy compound exercises, but it's what I was considering trying.

    Did you take a day off each week?Any advice on how you set up your schedule? I'm guessing Strength & swim on same day but do you every do strength and bike same day? if so, consecutively or split sessions?

    Any advice appreciated...
  • electriq
    electriq Posts: 359 Member
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    Interesting thread
  • Tankplanker
    Tankplanker Posts: 365 Member
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    I'm also training for my first Triathlon next May, only Sprint distance but I plan to do Olympic by the end of next summer, the 10km run is a bit far for me yet. I've a good level of base fitness, in that I can complete the distance for Sprint without much problem but I'm just not fast enough, takes me around 1 hour 40 minutes with transitions. I know I need to knock about 40 minutes off that, but I have only been doing running/cycling/swimming for a couple of weeks to its still early doors for me.

    I'm doing strength three times a week with a concentration on upper body for the next thirty days as I've done a lot of leg work past thirty days, then I will switch again. My plan is to focus on either upper or lower until I get closer to the actual triathlon as I simply don't have enough workout slots (I usually work out twice a day six days a week, I kick box at least twice a week as well) to fit both in, and I find that my cardio work is enough for my legs right now otherwise they will be too sore and I might end up injured.

    I'm looking for friends also doing triathlons so friend if you want!