Posterior Tibial Tendonitis???? Please no!

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Okay, so I may have to put a halt on my running for a while. I started feeling a pain in my ankles on Tuesday during Insanity. Monday was the day I increased my running time with C25K and also the first day of running in my new shoes. Anyways, they hurt on the inside part between the ankle and heel. It kind of goes up from there a little too. Well, I pushed through it not thinking much about it. Yesterday it hurt again during Insanity, but not during the run. This morning I woke up and walked downstairs and it hurts when walking down the stairs, like when I put pressure on the balls of my feet. I have a dull ache as I walk in my heels at work too. I Googled "soreness between ankle and heel" and came up with this: "posterior tibial tendonitis." When reading about it and looking at pictures, it looks and sounds exactly where my pain is. I started massaging them and trying to stretch my ankles a little while sitting at my desk. I'm going to take Ibuprofen and ice them when I get home. I'm hoping it's not the same thing, but it sure feels like what they describe. I DON'T want to stop running, but I also don't want to further injure myself and have super swollen ankles. If left untreated it can start to flatten out your arch. I may need to get some better inserts for my running shoes. I also do NOT want to stop Insanity either and I probably won't. I may just not go as hard. When doing the jumps and landing on my toes it hurts. I need to get some glucosamine/chondroiton or something too for my joints. This sucks!!
Oh, and we're going to NYC for the weekend and will be walking A LOT so I won't be able to stay off my feet for at least a few days.
Anyone else have a problem like this?

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  • Buckeye_Jenn
    Buckeye_Jenn Posts: 48 Member
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    I had/have post tib tendonitis and it sounds exactly like what you're experiencing. Mine started with this giant lump on the inside of my left foot, near the arch, and it just kept swelling and swelling. I finally saw a foot/ankle specialist and after x-rays to rule out stress fracture and and MRI, he diagnosed me with post tib tendonitis. My arch had actually begun to collapse compared to my right foot so it was starting to get serious. I was immediately put in a boot and did six weeks of iontophoresis therapy, which helped tremendously. It's an intense cortizone treatment that is done externally, but with an electric device that helps zap the cortizone into the tendon. I also had to have orthotics made for my shoes.

    I had just come off of a horrible half-marathon recovery so I had eased up on my running a bit anyway, but this took me completely out of the game. You can rehab it back to running though. I had a doctor who was commited to avoiding surgery at all costs, but to do so I may live with a little pain in the area for the rest of my life. In other words, I could have surgery and never run again, but it would be fixed completely. Or I could do the boot isolation and therapy, wear the orthotics whenever possible, deal with occasional minor pain but still run, but on a more limited basis. For me it helped add a lot of new activities into my routine when I was stuck in the boot. I learned I loved yoga and Pilates, tolerated Spinning and sometimes a really fast-paced walk gets me just as sweaty as a run.

    So long story long, it is something you can recover from without surgery, but you need a doctor committed to that path. I worked with a team doctor for our MLS team, so it's his job to get players back on the field and remaining in their career, and I think that's the only thing that kept me off the operating table. My arch will continue to collapse if I'm not careful and I may need to have it repaired eventually, but for now I'm still feeling pretty good and occasionally running, so I'm OK with that.
  • cjjones007
    cjjones007 Posts: 602
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    Oh Kristy - so sorry to hear that - I've had some tendon problems in my feet as well (football, etc.) and I feel your pain - it will get better though!!!!
    I was sent to the elliptical and find it doesn't hurt on it :) Maybe that will help lol!!!
  • XFitMojoMom
    XFitMojoMom Posts: 3,255 Member
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    I took a week off, did achilles tendon stretches off a stair and it's eased some of the pressure I feel in my ankle. Jumping is the worst for me.
  • kristy_estes21
    kristy_estes21 Posts: 434 Member
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    Oh man, so I wonder if I just continue the Insanity, but stop running it will help. I wonder if the new shoes are contributing as well because they didn't hurt last week after running. I only increased my running time by 30 seconds each time so it's not like a big jump in time. I'm only on week 2 of C25K, alternating running 1.5min & walking 2min for about 30min.
  • Buckeye_Jenn
    Buckeye_Jenn Posts: 48 Member
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    You should look into running-specific shoes with arch support and stability control, if you plan to continue running. If you go to an athletic store, tell them you need the most isolation possible to avoid pronation.
  • MrsRobertson1005
    MrsRobertson1005 Posts: 552 Member
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    Maybe try your old shoes and see if they hurt? Maybe the shoes just fit wrong
  • kristy_estes21
    kristy_estes21 Posts: 434 Member
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    The shoes I just got are Asics Kahanas. They had the most arch support of the shoes I tried on at Kohl's this weekend. I need to go to an actual shoe store. My friends got some great shoes at Fleet Feet in Annapolis. I may end up going there and get fitted for some good shoes. I wish I could return the ones I got at Kohl's. Haha!
  • MrsRobertson1005
    MrsRobertson1005 Posts: 552 Member
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    The shoes I just got are Asics Kahanas. They had the most arch support of the shoes I tried on at Kohl's this weekend. I need to go to an actual shoe store. My friends got some great shoes at Fleet Feet in Annapolis. I may end up going there and get fitted for some good shoes. I wish I could return the ones I got at Kohl's. Haha!

    Why can't you? Most places will take them back within 30 Days, worn or not, if they hurt you I'd try
  • Buckeye_Jenn
    Buckeye_Jenn Posts: 48 Member
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    The stability control is just as important as arch support. The stability will keep you from rolling left and right and protect your arch if you pronate. Here's some great info on motion/stability control shoes. http://www.aapsm.org/runshoe.html
  • kristy_estes21
    kristy_estes21 Posts: 434 Member
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    Really? I thought they wouldn't take them back after you've worn them. I can try I guess.
  • justinmcdaniel83
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    I'm an avid runner and back in march I started having a dull pain in my heel. It was right behind the achilles tendon at its base. It would feel better after I started running but once I was finished it would hurt again. I tried taking a week or two off at a time and would try to run again but I could never go more than 2 or three min without pain. It turns out it was retrocalcaneal bursitis. I finally had to stop running until about three weeks ago and am only up to about 16 miles a week ( I was at 25). YOu do not want to run through it, achilles tendon problems are not something to power through because you can cause a lot more damage. I ended up doing a lot of biking and I've changed my running form from heel strike to forefoot and I'm not having any problems at all. I'm still getting my calves used to the change but my achilles has never felt better. I'd have it checked out and take it easy.
  • kristy_estes21
    kristy_estes21 Posts: 434 Member
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    Thanks for the website buckeye! A lot of great info there! :)

    @justin - are you running w/ the vibram shoes now or still regular shoes and just changing your stride? I have a friend that runs with vibrams and he swears by them. I'm not a "runner" so to speak....I just wanted to be able to do it a few times a week with my husband and maybe do a 5K later this fall. I'm only running maybe 6 1/2 to 7 miles a week so far, in addition to my Insanity workouts. So it's not much at all.
  • Buckeye_Jenn
    Buckeye_Jenn Posts: 48 Member
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    You're welcome! It sounds like with some rest, new inserts and maybe a quick visit to the doctor you might be able to keep with the couch to 5K program. That's pretty much my goal for the time being, too. My body just made it very clear to me that it will not tolerate another half-marathon for quite a while. And like they say, listen to your body!
  • kristy_estes21
    kristy_estes21 Posts: 434 Member
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    I have a follow up with my doc on July 18th (the soonest they had available) for a couple other things so I'll probably have to wait till then to talk to her about it. It's the military hospital so they're usually really booked for appointments. :( I'll just take it easy till then.
  • justinmcdaniel83
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    I am running in the vibrams and it is great. I love them and it seems to have helped with my foot problems. I do still switch to shoes a little for now but I don't use my traditional running shoes anymore only a much flatter and much less cushioned shoe. If I were you I would probably hold off on the running until you get you foot all healed up and maybe modify some of your workouts with insanity if it is causing pain.
  • kristy_estes21
    kristy_estes21 Posts: 434 Member
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    I called Kohl's and told them the shoes were hurting my feet and he said to bring them back. Woo!!! :) Now, we'll see if that's even what is causing my pain. lol
  • Dottie27
    Dottie27 Posts: 159 Member
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    bump
  • tokyovegan
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    I know this is an old thread, but I am was also diagnosed with PTT and have given up hopes for running my once/year marathon next month. I would like to ask Buckeye_Jenn about the iontophoresis therapy. What does that entail and how did it help? Is it possible that rest alone is enough, as long as it doesn't hurt? I also don't want to cause further damage to my foot. I hate having to give up running probably forever, but I wouldn't want to go through the surgery just to keep running, either.