Eating Creole food makes it impossible to lose weight
CookieCorleone
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How in the world can I eat clean if my palate is completely conditioned to New Orleans Creole food with EVERYTHING being highly seasoned?? I swear this food puts a spell on you lol
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Eating "clean", whatever that means to you, has nothing to do with losing weight. Eating fewer calories than you burn does. All you have to do is cut down your portions.5
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Most seasonings dont have calories. And eating clean doesn't mean anything for weight loss. If you accurately count your calories, you can eat all the Creole food you want.8
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Hi:
I like very spicy food and I lost 16 pounds. It is all eating at a deficit. Calories In, Calories Out (CICO).
Enjoy your creole food (in moderation)2 -
I love anything spicy but I eat within my daily goal! CICO0
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If you burn more calories than you consume, then you will lose weight. If you sit on your *kitten* all the time, than you need to eat less, way less. You only need more calories if you workout hard or have a very active lifestyle.0
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You could eat garbage and still lose weight. Although it's better to eat healthy food, considering the fact that foods that are healthy have the nutrients your body needs. Unlike junk food.0
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You can still put spices on your foods. Actually this will make "clean foods" tolerable. IF you are talking about eating jambalaya, red beans and rice, etc.. you can still eat this, just less of it.
I am not sure why you think you have to eat this "clean" food diet to loose weight.
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There is no such thing as clean foods1
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Eating TOO MUCH of any good makes it impusdible to lose weight. Portion control.1
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If smaller portions were not effective. Herbs and spices being high in salicylate could contribute to holding a higher weight. Most western general practitioners do not recognise this as a possible problem but they do know not to give aspirin based pain relief medications to asthmatics and accept in some other patients they can cause digestive problems including bleeding. I discovered my problem with salicylate after I realised, by accident, that not taking pain relief before exercise was more beneficial than taking it for pain in my joints following activity.
Salicylate is the active ingredient in aspirin and other products. Many plants use salicylate to protect themselves from moulds and mildews, for some of us this can build up and cause many different health problems unfortunately because our diet varies day to day and the effects are cumulative, in this situation it is not possible to define one dietary culprit many can be involved. Look up Finegold, his diet may help some. Anne Swane et al, did some good work giving many different foods a salicylate status. "Food can make you ill" a book and a web site, probably still will also had much information on this and other food related potential problems. Looking up, SalicylateSensitivity may also help.
Its all too complicated that even medics who do recognise this as an issue still do not know what sets some of us up with the problem because it is more toxic to us and not the general population. It was put to me that for some reason the "bucket", our systems should have, become over full and that is why we develop problems. (2014)
It is possible the key lies in our endocrine system. I have been generally doing better addressing my endocrine and digestive functions privately.0 -
The roux will get you. Lol just blacken everything with cayenne. Thats what i do. If I make jambalaya i use turkey sausage and eat out of a small bowl.2
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If smaller portions were not effective. Herbs and spices being high in salicylate could contribute to holding a higher weight. Most western general practitioners do not recognise this as a possible problem but they do know not to give aspirin based pain relief medications to asthmatics and accept in some other patients they can cause digestive problems including bleeding. I discovered my problem with salicylate after I realised, by accident, that not taking pain relief before exercise was more beneficial than taking it for pain in my joints following activity.
Salicylate is the active ingredient in aspirin and other products. Many plants use salicylate to protect themselves from moulds and mildews, for some of us this can build up and cause many different health problems unfortunately because our diet varies day to day and the effects are cumulative, in this situation it is not possible to define one dietary culprit many can be involved. Look up Finegold, his diet may help some. Anne Swane et al, did some good work giving many different foods a salicylate status. "Food can make you ill" a book and a web site, probably still will also had much information on this and other food related potential problems. Looking up, SalicylateSensitivity may also help.
Its all too complicated that even medics who do recognise this as an issue still do not know what sets some of us up with the problem because it is more toxic to us and not the general population. It was put to me that for some reason the "bucket", our systems should have, become over full and that is why we develop problems. (2014)
It is possible the key lies in our endocrine system. I have been generally doing better addressing my endocrine and digestive functions privately.
Actually most doctors and healthcare professionals know this, which is why they ask about active bleeding prior to giving aspirin to those they give it to for a cardiac event/prevention.
Just because YOU have an issue with aspirin does not mean others should avoid it.
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Highly seasoned is considered un-clean? Well, I guess this is another one @diannethegeek can add to her list.3
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Alluminati wrote: »Highly seasoned is considered un-clean? Well, I guess this is another one @diannethegeek can add to her list.
We're getting pretty close to "clean" = "penitential", which IMHO is often the intended, if unstated, purpose.3 -
We're getting pretty close to "clean" = "penitential", which IMHO is often the intended, if unstated, purpose.
I read an article once - the basic idea was that as more and more people reject organized religion, food/eating has become our new "religion". I think it said that with a lack of a religion that tells them certain things are good or bad, those values (good and bad) are placed on certain eating styles. I don't remember it being particularly well-written, there weren't any kind of scientific studies to back it up, and I'm probably paraphrasing it all wrong. And if I understood your comment I think you're saying the opposite, that clean eating is more like our punishment for past "eating sins", but either way, I find the whole "food is the new religion" idea very fascinating.
Sorry to veer off track! To the OP, I got the impression that you weren't really being serious and that you were mainly expressing how much you love Creole food, and that maybe you had a recent experience with it.
Still, there have to be a lot of recipes out there for lighter versions of your favorites! 1 -
Dear Elphie.
I was only suggesting that reacting to salicylate in foods is possible. Something to possibly consider and read up on if a person was so inclined, to disregard where appropriate, if smaller portions did not make any difference. I'm not alone in this situation and I would dearly love for no one else to have this problem. If I was asked if I have gastric bleeding following ingestion of aspirin I would in all honesty have to say no not to my knowledge. Bleeding is not the only problem. I have to eliminate many, most common foods to keep my residual salicylate levels as low as possible, my life is no longer plagued by disabling joint pain, and the long list of other life restricting symptoms I used to have to endure, my life is good. I know this is not a common problem.
Regional Immunology departments do recognise this problem with dietary and environmental salicylate but its the ones in general practice and some endocrinologists who do not and those who have no experience of this devastating problem too.
Yes aspirin is used therapeutically to stave of cardiac incidents but for me that action could be even more dangerous. I'd have to take my chances without.0 -
Ummm, I think OP was just saying that all the yummy Creole food makes it hard to eat right and lose weight. Not that it is causing her to hold onto weight?
OP, as many previous posts suggested, logging and monitoring calories is key. And the spices you love can help you eat a lower calorie diet if you can work around the higher-calorie ingredients.
Try starting off just logging what you usually eat and after a week take a look back at your diary and see how far off you are and where your extra calories go. You might also see foods you like that are lower calorie that you can focus on. Then set a realistic weekly weight loss goal, log accurately and consistently, and be patient. You'll figure it out, good luck!1 -
i agree 100% the struggle is real0
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I eat creole food all the time. You can def lose weight on creole food. I'm not sure what you mean by heavy spices....spices doesn't really ,are you gain weight. The only spice I'd keep an eye on is high sodium spices because it traps water in your body too easily.
But yeah, you can def lose weight on creole food.
Ah creole food. The delightful nectar of the gods1 -
I live in Southeast Louisiana in the Jambalaya Capital of the World and know your pain. The majority of my obesity occurred after I moved to Louisiana in 1999. Spices aren't really your issue with Creole food, it's fat and carbs. Between roux, oil, butter, fat, rice etc., it is tough to eat healthy. We have Jambalaya and Red Beans and Rice weekly. I have just eaten different from the family for the past 3 weeks. Don't worry as much about spices though unless you are restricting your sodium intake as that can be high. I sure add the spice to my chicken breasts and pork tenderloins though.1
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I love Creole food too. I have a recipe I use when I make Jambalaya or Gumbo where you brown the flour in the oven until its a dark brown color. Then add it to your celery, onion, tomato mixture. It is so good and a great way to make it. I know some true Louisianians would think its totally wrong not to use oil or butter, which I totally get , but it is really good. I found it online a few years ago when I wanted to cook Jambalaya on Fat Tuesday. Its the only way I make it now. I even did a post on here about the recipe years ago.
But yes, I agree...Creole food is awesome.
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bobsburgersfan wrote: »
And if I understood your comment I think you're saying the opposite, that clean eating is more like our punishment for past "eating sins", but either way, I find the whole "food is the new religion" idea very fascinating.We're getting pretty close to "clean" = "penitential", which IMHO is often the intended, if unstated, purpose.
I think you got the gist of my comment. It was more or less off the cuff, but I do think that people intend "clean" to have a religious connotation, whether they would say this explicitly or not.
"Of all the things that are processed in factories, these shall be unclean to you. They are detestable and you shall not eat of them. Except for those protein powders, these you may eat and not be unclean."2 -
Moderation. Cut back portions, or consume fewer calories during other meals. A while back I ate mexican all weekend and lost three pounds between Friday and Monday. It's all in the servings and exercise.0
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Louisiana girl here. We still cook Creole foods but we make them healthier. Turkey sausage, brown rice or quinoa. We still definitely use the seasonings!1
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bobsburgersfan wrote: »
And if I understood your comment I think you're saying the opposite, that clean eating is more like our punishment for past "eating sins", but either way, I find the whole "food is the new religion" idea very fascinating.We're getting pretty close to "clean" = "penitential", which IMHO is often the intended, if unstated, purpose.
I think you got the gist of my comment. It was more or less off the cuff, but I do think that people intend "clean" to have a religious connotation, whether they would say this explicitly or not.
"Of all the things that are processed in factories, these shall be unclean to you. They are detestable and you shall not eat of them. Except for those protein powders, these you may eat and not be unclean."
Totally laughing over here. That is awesome.0 -
If smaller portions were not effective. Herbs and spices being high in salicylate could contribute to holding a higher weight. Most western general practitioners do not recognise this as a possible problem but they do know not to give aspirin based pain relief medications to asthmatics and accept in some other patients they can cause digestive problems including bleeding. I discovered my problem with salicylate after I realised, by accident, that not taking pain relief before exercise was more beneficial than taking it for pain in my joints following activity.
Salicylate is the active ingredient in aspirin and other products. Many plants use salicylate to protect themselves from moulds and mildews, for some of us this can build up and cause many different health problems unfortunately because our diet varies day to day and the effects are cumulative, in this situation it is not possible to define one dietary culprit many can be involved. Look up Finegold, his diet may help some. Anne Swane et al, did some good work giving many different foods a salicylate status. "Food can make you ill" a book and a web site, probably still will also had much information on this and other food related potential problems. Looking up, SalicylateSensitivity may also help.
Its all too complicated that even medics who do recognise this as an issue still do not know what sets some of us up with the problem because it is more toxic to us and not the general population. It was put to me that for some reason the "bucket", our systems should have, become over full and that is why we develop problems. (2014)
It is possible the key lies in our endocrine system. I have been generally doing better addressing my endocrine and digestive functions privately.
I have asthma and aspirin does not do anything to my asthma,I can take it with no issues
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