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Are there different terms for different types of vegans?
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janejellyroll wrote: »Jane, you and @BecomingBane are a couple of the most reasonable people I've seen on these boards - I've never seen you put people down or try to shame them for what they choose to eat regardless of your own ethical standpoint, and I salute you for that!
There just always seem to be a few that have a need to feel superior in some way, and to look down on others for their lifestyle or dietary choices. I'm not saying that anyone in this thread is one of them - I was using "we" to refer to humans in general
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I do understand what you're saying about the confusion, though, and perhaps if people were to call themselves "dietary vegans" that would be enough to sort them out from those on the ethical side?
None of which really answers the OP's question about whether 'processed' vs. 'non-processed' vegans need different names, although I think my answer to that would be no, they don't. They're all vegans, either ethical or dietary. But, I'm not vegan or vegetarian, so that's only my uninformed opinion.
Thank you. It's an honor to be grouped together with @BecomingBane.
Hugs all around.
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BecomingBane wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »Jane, you and @BecomingBane are a couple of the most reasonable people I've seen on these boards - I've never seen you put people down or try to shame them for what they choose to eat regardless of your own ethical standpoint, and I salute you for that!
There just always seem to be a few that have a need to feel superior in some way, and to look down on others for their lifestyle or dietary choices. I'm not saying that anyone in this thread is one of them - I was using "we" to refer to humans in general - but it does feel sometimes that labels and group names are used for that reason even if that wasn't the original intention.
I do understand what you're saying about the confusion, though, and perhaps if people were to call themselves "dietary vegans" that would be enough to sort them out from those on the ethical side?
None of which really answers the OP's question about whether 'processed' vs. 'non-processed' vegans need different names, although I think my answer to that would be no, they don't. They're all vegans, either ethical or dietary. But, I'm not vegan or vegetarian, so that's only my uninformed opinion.
Thank you. It's an honor to be grouped together with @BecomingBane.
Hugs all around.
I do approve of labelling "evil wizard vegans." The rest of us need to know who to watch out for.4 -
Hey, I resemble that remark.
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Is there a distinction between people who are vegetarians because they like animals, and vegetarians because they hate plants?1
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afwatson15 wrote: »Is there a distinction between people who are vegetarians because they like animals, and vegetarians because they hate plants?
Given the number of plants fed to domestic animals, if you hate plants choosing meat would be the more effective choice. A huge portion of the food grown around the world is fed to domesticated animals.5 -
janejellyroll wrote: »afwatson15 wrote: »Is there a distinction between people who are vegetarians because they like animals, and vegetarians because they hate plants?
Given the number of plants fed to domestic animals, if you hate plants choosing meat would be the more effective choice. A huge portion of the food grown around the world is fed to domesticated animals.
Thank you 'science-side-of-mfp'.1 -
janejellyroll wrote: »afwatson15 wrote: »Is there a distinction between people who are vegetarians because they like animals, and vegetarians because they hate plants?
Given the number of plants fed to domestic animals, if you hate plants choosing meat would be the more effective choice. A huge portion of the food grown around the world is fed to domesticated animals.
This was awesome. I'm just trying to picture a person vindictively eating plants because they hate them so much.
Edited because I found a better comic.
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WinoGelato wrote: »This debate section is not turning out the way I thought it would... I had such high hopes for a place where we could discuss thought provoking topics with science and logic and get to the heart of some issues without worrying about offending posters just looking for support.
Alas, this thread proves that is just not the case...
It's because people only read Health & Fitness and ignore/don't see Debate. There's already a Fitness sub forum, but not one specifically for Health. Then again, there are people who only see Debate and want to discuss whatever their internet link-clicking takes them.
Nah, roll it up one more level of abstraction: It's because half the population is less smart than average. 1 -
BecomingBane wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »afwatson15 wrote: »Is there a distinction between people who are vegetarians because they like animals, and vegetarians because they hate plants?
Given the number of plants fed to domestic animals, if you hate plants choosing meat would be the more effective choice. A huge portion of the food grown around the world is fed to domesticated animals.
This was awesome. I'm just trying to picture a person vindictively eating plants because they hate them so much.
Edited because I found a better comic.
One of my dogs really loves greens. When I give him a piece of kale, he will shake it in his jaws like he's trying to break its neck. It's adorable. That's how I imagine someone vindictively eating a plant.2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »BecomingBane wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »afwatson15 wrote: »Is there a distinction between people who are vegetarians because they like animals, and vegetarians because they hate plants?
Given the number of plants fed to domestic animals, if you hate plants choosing meat would be the more effective choice. A huge portion of the food grown around the world is fed to domesticated animals.
This was awesome. I'm just trying to picture a person vindictively eating plants because they hate them so much.
Edited because I found a better comic.
One of my dogs really loves greens. When I give him a piece of kale, he will shake it in his jaws like he's trying to break its neck. It's adorable. That's how I imagine someone vindictively eating a plant.
That's perfect, lol. For my cats it's melon and broccoli that they will fight me over.1 -
One of my cats loves carrots and peas, and always seems to know when I've bought carrots - he tries desperately to get into the grocery bag and drag them out. He can be quite vindictive when attacking a piece of carrot, like it's personally offended him! 2
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One of my cats loves carrots and peas, and always seems to know when I've bought carrots - he tries desperately to get into the grocery bag and drag them out. He can be quite vindictive when attacking a piece of carrot, like it's personally offended him!
My dogs adore carrots. We keep some chopped up in the fridge to give them as treats.1 -
Annoying and slightly less annoying are the only ones I'm aware of. I kid, I kid. In all seriousness you do see some people try to say they're "part time vegans" or "mostly vegan." So in other words, not vegan?0
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I used to be a breadatarian. Carbs and cheese were my basic food groups. No meat for 7 years, then I married a butcher.3
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