Intermittent Fasting

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bikiniquest
bikiniquest Posts: 11 Member
in Health and Weight Loss
I read that you can have up to 50 calories without breaking your fast. Have people had success with this? I enjoy coffee with half and half in the morning.

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  • ogtmama
    ogtmama Posts: 1,403 Member
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    I drink tea with lemon during the fasting period.
  • kommodevaran
    kommodevaran Posts: 17,890 Member
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    I have read that Elvis is still alive. That doesn't make it more true.

    Why would it matter if you have broken your fast with your coffee, or not? When it doesn't matter at all WHEN you break your fast?
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,951 Member
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    bikiniquest wrote: »
    I read that you can have up to 50 calories without breaking your fast. Have people had success with this? I enjoy coffee with half and half in the morning.

    When I fast, that's how I do it too...
  • bikiniquest
    bikiniquest Posts: 11 Member
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    Kommodevaran, it matters because I want to have coffee with half and half at 8:30 am and not break my fast until 11 am.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
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    I sometimes only drink coffee with cream for breakfast and nothing until lunch.
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    edited July 2016
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    If you eat anything with calories you are technically no longer "fasted". I'm not sure why that matters though. You say you want to maintain your fast until lunch which is fine, but what do you think will be detrimental about breaking your fast earlier to use some coffee cream?
  • ninjachicken4000
    ninjachicken4000 Posts: 26 Member
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    Why does breaking the fast matter? genuinely curious?

    The reason intermittent fasting works isn't because you go a few hours without eating and therefore something magical metabolically happens. It works because you are eating fewer calories through the day.
  • CorneliusPhoton
    CorneliusPhoton Posts: 965 Member
    edited July 2016
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    ninjachicken4000 wrote: »
    Why does breaking the fast matter? genuinely curious?

    The reason intermittent fasting works isn't because you go a few hours without eating and therefore something magical metabolically happens. It works because you are eating fewer calories through the day.

    But there is something that happens. It's called autophagy.
    https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/fasting-and-autophagy-fasting-25/

    Also, since you have depleted your glycogen, you start ketosis. Fat-burning.

    Fasting is a great help to keep you in a calorie deficit if your goal is to lose weight. Coffee creamer calories are negligible in that case. However, the non-weight-loss-associated health benefits of fasting such as improving insulin resistance, triglycerides/cholesterol, autophagy, etc., are associated with keeping insulin levels very low for an extended period of time.
  • caroldavison332
    caroldavison332 Posts: 864 Member
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    I also fast 16 hours on the days I don't work. I still eat my 1545 calories daily. The reason I fast is because the body is supposed to stop burning sugar after 12 hours of fasting, and start burning fat. I lost 5 pounds in the past 3 weeks doing so.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,951 Member
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    Most of, if not all of the reported health benefits of fasting you can also attain with regular exercise so I would not stress it too much. The main purpose of fasting (other then spiritual) is to create a calorie deficit. Cream in your coffee is not going to have any negative effects...
  • CorneliusPhoton
    CorneliusPhoton Posts: 965 Member
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    Fasting for ~16 hours starts autophagy. Autophagy is the body’s mechanism of getting rid of all the broken down, old cell organelles, proteins and cell membranes. It is suspected that a buildup of these types of things causes cancer, alzheimers, accelerated aging.

    Fasting and autophagy:
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20534972
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21106691
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17934054
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20300080
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20880415
  • CorneliusPhoton
    CorneliusPhoton Posts: 965 Member
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    J72FIT wrote: »
    Most of, if not all of the reported health benefits of fasting you can also attain with regular exercise so I would not stress it too much. The main purpose of fasting (other then spiritual) is to create a calorie deficit. Cream in your coffee is not going to have any negative effects...

    True. But I like to think that I am getting the other benefits since I don't always exercise regularly.
  • J72FIT
    J72FIT Posts: 5,951 Member
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    CorneliusPhoton wrote: »
    J72FIT wrote: »
    Most of, if not all of the reported health benefits of fasting you can also attain with regular exercise so I would not stress it too much. The main purpose of fasting (other then spiritual) is to create a calorie deficit. Cream in your coffee is not going to have any negative effects...

    True. But I like to think that I am getting the other benefits since I don't always exercise regularly.

    Of course!
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
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    CorneliusPhoton wrote: »
    ninjachicken4000 wrote: »
    Why does breaking the fast matter? genuinely curious?

    The reason intermittent fasting works isn't because you go a few hours without eating and therefore something magical metabolically happens. It works because you are eating fewer calories through the day.

    But there is something that happens. It's called autophagy.
    https://intensivedietarymanagement.com/fasting-and-autophagy-fasting-25/

    Also, since you have depleted your glycogen, you start ketosis. Fat-burning.

    Fasting is a great help to keep you in a calorie deficit if your goal is to lose weight. Coffee creamer calories are negligible in that case. However, the non-weight-loss-associated health benefits of fasting such as improving insulin resistance, triglycerides/cholesterol, autophagy, etc., are associated with keeping insulin levels very low for an extended period of time.
    You do not enter ketosis from 16 hour fasting. Human's do not deplete their stored glycogen that quickly. Even if you are doing intense exercise you will still have glycogen stores after a 16 hour fast. It takes a few days to get the body into ketosis.
    caroldavison332 wrote: »
    I also fast 16 hours on the days I don't work. I still eat my 1545 calories daily. The reason I fast is because the body is supposed to stop burning sugar after 12 hours of fasting, and start burning fat. I lost 5 pounds in the past 3 weeks doing so.
    The body does not have on and off switches where it stops burning one thing and starts burning another. It does however have a supply of glycogen which is a preferential source of fuel. Fat is a secondary source of fuel. Fasting doesn't change net fat losses. If you are in a calorie deficit, you will burn roughly the same amount of fat in a week if you eat once a day and fast the other 23 hours vs eating every 2 hours. Calorie deficit is the primary drive for fat loss, not fasting. Fasting works wonder in some for appetite control, it's convenient, and can help with dietary compliance. Those are the main reasons to fast and having a little bit of cream in your coffee, while not technically fasting, shouldn't affect those reasons.

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