What is your % calorific deficit?
chrisdavey
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So we know that MFP will take your BMR and apply an activity level multiplier to estimate your Total Daily Energy Expenditure and then from there will reduce the daily calorie limit by 500 for 1lb loss or 1000 for 2lb loss.
The issue with this is that too large of a deficit can mean that weight lost is not actual fat loss but lean body mass (LBM) which will lower your BMR. This can lead to yo-yo dieting as it effectively reduces the amount of calories you can eat without gaining weight.
A good recommendation to ensure that the weight you lose is fat and not LBM is to reduce your calorie intake by 20% from your TDEE and also ensure that you don't lose more than 2lbs per week. (Although it is possible to lose more than this and the majority being fat for very obese people, it is a rare occurence)
So how do you work out your calorific deficit in %?
Go to Tools - BMR. Get this number and multyply it by the following depending on your activity level.
1.2 = Sedentary (Little or no exercise and desk job)
1.3-1.4 = Lightly Active (Little daily activity & light exercise 1-3 days a week)
1.5-1.6 = Moderately Active (Moderately active daily life & Moderate exercise 3-5 days a week)
1.7-1.8 = Very Active (Physically demanding lifestyle & Hard exercise or sports 6-7 days a week)
1.9-2.0 = Extremely Active (Hard daily exercise or sports and physical job)
Example: me at 5'8" and 172lbs, my BMR is 1744. Multiply by 1.4 (desk job with exercise 5 days a week) equals 2442 cals.
Now take your daily calorie limit and divide it by your TDEE. My example: 1-(2000/2442) = 18% calorie deficit.
As you get leaner, the % deficit you can use to lose weight but not LBM is reduced so it is a good thing to check on through your weight loss journey.
So if you want post up:
Male or Female:
Approximate BF%:
Calorie Deficit %:
Male
12% BF
18% deficit
The issue with this is that too large of a deficit can mean that weight lost is not actual fat loss but lean body mass (LBM) which will lower your BMR. This can lead to yo-yo dieting as it effectively reduces the amount of calories you can eat without gaining weight.
A good recommendation to ensure that the weight you lose is fat and not LBM is to reduce your calorie intake by 20% from your TDEE and also ensure that you don't lose more than 2lbs per week. (Although it is possible to lose more than this and the majority being fat for very obese people, it is a rare occurence)
So how do you work out your calorific deficit in %?
Go to Tools - BMR. Get this number and multyply it by the following depending on your activity level.
1.2 = Sedentary (Little or no exercise and desk job)
1.3-1.4 = Lightly Active (Little daily activity & light exercise 1-3 days a week)
1.5-1.6 = Moderately Active (Moderately active daily life & Moderate exercise 3-5 days a week)
1.7-1.8 = Very Active (Physically demanding lifestyle & Hard exercise or sports 6-7 days a week)
1.9-2.0 = Extremely Active (Hard daily exercise or sports and physical job)
Example: me at 5'8" and 172lbs, my BMR is 1744. Multiply by 1.4 (desk job with exercise 5 days a week) equals 2442 cals.
Now take your daily calorie limit and divide it by your TDEE. My example: 1-(2000/2442) = 18% calorie deficit.
As you get leaner, the % deficit you can use to lose weight but not LBM is reduced so it is a good thing to check on through your weight loss journey.
So if you want post up:
Male or Female:
Approximate BF%:
Calorie Deficit %:
Male
12% BF
18% deficit
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19% deficit though I'm Sedentary and work out 5-6 days a week
45% BF per my scale0 -
Great Post!!
Not sure if I am doing this right though.... Height: 5'. Weight: 133 pounds. BMR: 1144. TDEE: 1601 (@1.4) BF% 26.11
Yeah, it sucks being so little....lol My TDEE might be a bit higher since I am doing intense exercise 6 days a week (Turbo Fire)
Not sure how to figure the deficit ??0 -
Gender: Female
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 130.4 lbs.
Not sure of my Body Fat %, but my BMR = 1,386. Multiplied by 1.3 (A LITTLE activity, but working out 5-6 days per week) = 1,801.8
Daily Caloric Allowance = 1,532 (Therefore 1-(1,532/1801.8) = 0.15).
My Daily Caloric Deficit is at 15%.0 -
Great Post!!
Not sure if I am doing this right though.... Height: 5'. Weight: 133 pounds. BMR: 1144. TDEE: 1601 (@1.4) BF% 26.11
Yeah, it sucks being so little....lol My TDEE might be a bit higher since I am doing intense exercise 6 days a week (Turbo Fire)
Not sure how to figure the deficit ??
1- (your daily calorie goal/TDEE)x100 to get it in %
So if you are at 1200 it would be 25%.0 -
Great Post!!
Not sure if I am doing this right though.... Height: 5'. Weight: 133 pounds. BMR: 1144. TDEE: 1601 (@1.4) BF% 26.11
Yeah, it sucks being so little....lol My TDEE might be a bit higher since I am doing intense exercise 6 days a week (Turbo Fire)
Not sure how to figure the deficit ??
1- (your daily calorie goal/TDEE)x100 to get it in %
So if you are at 1200 it would be 25%.
Got it!! Thanks : )0 -
Hey Chris,
The numbers/descriptions you use for activity multipliers are slightly different than what I see all over the Internet. Here's what I see pretty much everywhere:
Sedentary = BMR X 1.2 (little or no exercise, desk job)
Lightly active = BMR X 1.375 (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/wk)
Mod. active = BMR X 1.55 (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/wk)
Very active = BMR X 1.725 (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days/wk)
Extr. active = BMR X 1.9 (hard daily exercise/sports & physical job or 2X day training, i.e marathon, contest etc.)
Based on these numbers I would use 1.725 as a multiplier, since although I do have a sedentary job, I do hard exercise 6 days per week. But based the descriptions on your multiplers, I'm not sure what to use, since with each level you increase daily activity AND exercise (for example, lightly active AND light exercise 1-3 days, moderately active AND moderate exercise 3-5 days, physically demanding lifestyle AND hard exercise 6-7 days).
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so my job is very physical 10 hour day so need to go with? 1.9-2.0 = Extremely Active (Hard daily exercise or sports and physical job) ??? im 5'10 and 175 and bf 10-12% depending on time of day... so im tired someone help me lol0
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bump0
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So what should the percentage be?? Mine calculation comes out to (I think) 17% defecit, but 2000/2400= .83, so that would be 83 percent, so 100-83 is 17% defecit??
So what does this mean exactly?? What should the percentage be??0 -
For Pcramer2 yes not sure I am understanding exactly how to calculate this either. But I am waiting for my turbofire to start it, how do you like it? I do turbo jam about 6-7 days a week with 35 min of treadmill right now.
Ht- 5'3"
Wt- 129
bmr- 1242
level of activity is 1.60 -
Um - ek. I am working out my Calorie deficit at 40%
I am 5"5, 123 pounds, female, 23 so my BMR = 1320
Times by 1.5 (I work a desk job but do at least 5 cardio workouts a week)
= 1980
1-(1200/1980) x 100 = 40%
Even dropping a level to a 1.4 multiplier has me at 36%
So have I made a mistake or do I massively need to up my calories!0 -
Mike523: interesting. These activity multipliers are the ones from bodybuilding.com. You could use other ones as at the end of the day TDEE is going to be an estimate only.
Criticalx: yep, sounds right. So take BMR x 1.9 = TDEE. Then use that number to workout your deficit.
dawnemjh: Yep, that's right. There is no correct % as such (especially because TDEE is an estimate as I said) but say for example a guy was 10% bodyfat and he plugs in some figures and works out that his 2lb weight loss per week set by MFP is actually a 40% calorie deficit then this would be a good case to increase the calories a bit so that it is closer to 20%.
The larger you are the higher deficit you can run without losing too much LBM. Resistance training and a good amount of protein will also assist in the cause. (I use minimum 1g/lb of bodyweight for protein)0 -
Um - ek. I am working out my Calorie deficit at 40%
I am 5"5, 123 pounds, female, 23 so my BMR = 1320
Times by 1.5 (I work a desk job but do at least 5 cardio workouts a week)
= 1980
1-(1200/1980) x 100 = 40%
Even dropping a level to a 1.4 multiplier has me at 36%
So have I made a mistake or do I massively need to up my calories!
If it's working for you, stick with it (re scales, pics, measurements) but you could be one of the cases where the generic style MFP settings have you at too large of a deficit. (especially cause I know how hard you workout )0 -
so mfp has me set at 2750 to maintain.. but im coming up with 3375 is to maintain? so that a defict of 525... right/0
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so mfp has me set at 2750 to maintain.. but im coming up with 3375 is to maintain? so that a defict of 525... right/
That would be an 18.5% deficit.
If you actually know your maintenance calories from previous logging history then it's better to use that number than BMR x activity factor.0 -
So I will estimate my activity multiplier as 1.6, since I have a desk job but exercise hard 6 days per week, averaging about a 650 calorie burn every day according to my Polar FT7.
At 41 years old, 187 lbs, and 5' 9", my BMR is 1744 according to MFP.
1744 x 1.6 = 2790 TDEE
I eat on average about 2300 calories per day.
1 - (2300/2790) x 100 = 17.5% deficit
My body fat percentage is currently about 17%0 -
So I will estimate my activity multiplier as 1.6, since I have a desk job but exercise hard 6 days per week, averaging about a 650 calorie burn every day according to my Polar FT7.
At 41 years old, 187 lbs, and 5' 9", my BMR is 1744 according to MFP.
1744 x 1.6 = 2790 TDEE
I eat on average about 2300 calories per day.
1 - (2300/2790) x 100 = 17.5% deficit
My body fat percentage is currently about 17%
And I think that 1.6 multiplier is pretty close to accurate, since if I go the MFP way I get a similar TDEE:
1744 (BMR) x 1.2 (sedentary job) + 650 (exercise) = 2742 TDEE
Pretty close to the 2790 I got above...0 -
Bump...0
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Mike523: calcs look good and looks like a good deficit0
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My TDEE: 1937, daily cals 1500, deficit = 22.5%
I've been losing at a very steady rate (averaging 1kg every 10 days) for 5 1/2 months but I'm getting close to my goal and have been thinking that it's time to slow down the weight loss and start heading up towards maintenance calories.
This looks like a good tool to help me get the right balance of eating more now I weigh less.
Thanks!0 -
bump, too much brain work for my over heated brain at the moment.0
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i am a female, 5'8", 36 yr
My deficit is 19.8% and my BF :43.6% based on my scale
So what are the good range to aim for ? How large is too large of a deficit?
I do not think my settings is too high,m as I aim only 1lb per week and I am obese.0 -
Appr 15% BF
31.7% caloric deficit, by the CRON calculator
(Calorie Restriction with Optimal Nutrition)
Disclaimer: I don't restrict calories for weightloss reasons, but as part of a trial to investigate the impact of calorie restriction on a particular type of cancer, as part of a trial.0 -
As I said, there is no correct deficit as it will depend on people's current BF%, metabolism (past dieting history), current training etc. etc.
Basically, it's something to check as you go and you become leaner that you are not at too much of a deficit ie. 40% deficit for a guy at 10% BF would not be a good thing.
lodro: interesting. How long are doing the trial for?0 -
As I said, there is no correct deficit as it will depend on people's current BF%, metabolism (past dieting history), current training etc. etc.
Basically, it's something to check as you go and you become leaner that you are not at too much of a deficit ie. 40% deficit for a guy at 10% BF would not be a good thing.
lodro: interesting. How long are doing the trial for?
I've been going since january of this year, lowering my intake until i'm at my current intake of about 1200 calories a day (i'm fairly short, 1.70) I've been weighing 59-60 kilos for 2 months now: this seems to be my set point) I did get a lot more active physically. I notice calorie restricting and Intermittent Fasting help me cope better with chemotherapy.0 -
Hope it works out well for you mate.0
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Hope it works out well for you mate.
thanks. it was a long shot, but research seems to support the hypothesis, but that's only lab animals, not humans0 -
I love tough, but so fun. : ) Very intense. Still playing around with the numbers. I lost quite a bit of weight by really reducing my calories, but got flabby instead of fit. Now I am trying to get fit and firm.....I think I need to raise my calories just to make it through my workouts... Still not sure what my happy number is : )
If you want an accountablility partner, just let me know.0
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