Muscle does NOT weigh more than fat!!!
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See now this is the reason I stay away from forums.
I will say this one thing. A tonne of feathrs is HEAVIER than a tonne of coal, as a tonne of feathers comes with the weight of the guilt of killing all those ducks13 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »Y'all are so mean.
Arrogant stupidity should not be rewarded with kindness.
You know where you're posting, right?
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See now this is the reason I stay away from forums.
I will say this one thing. A tonne of feathrs is HEAVIER than a tonne of coal, as a tonne of feathers comes with the weight of the guilt of killing all those ducks
You remind me of my son
Says he does one thing, while blatantly doing another
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I don't think this has ever been mentioned here.1
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Mouse_Potato wrote: »I have never understood why this is a subject of such contention around here. When you compare two things, you must have a constant and it can't be the thing you are comparing. You can't take a pound of fat and a pound of muscle and ask which weighs more. It makes no sense to say I am as tall as Yao Ming because a meter of my body is as tall as a meter of his. That's not how comparisons work.
the only reason it gets contentious is when someone says they are not losing on a 1200 calories a day deficit and they are walking three times a week and someone comes in and says "well muscle weighs more than fat, so you are gaining muscle, which is why you are not losing" ...ummm no, that is not what is going on ...1 -
In a vacuum I can drop a pound of feathers and a pound of bricks at the same time and they will both hit the ground at the same time. Oh, are we not just saying random science facts now?4
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maryhoule47 wrote: »Whether a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers. A pound is a pound is a pound. Muscle takes up less space than fat, but it does NOT weigh less. Another weight loss myth. I hate to see people deceived by this.
That saying of muscle weighing more has to do with the visual representation if you had the same amount of volume of both, the volume of muscle will have more weight to it than that of equal volume of fat.
So by visual aide, muscle does weigh more than fat, no myth there.2 -
You don't weigh a pound against another pound. You weigh materials against each other with the same volume for each. That will determine which is heavier based on density.maryhoule47 wrote: »Whether a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers. A pound is a pound is a pound. Muscle takes up less space than fat, but it does NOT weigh less. Another weight loss myth. I hate to see people deceived by this.
So yes muscle DOES weigh more than fat if volume is the same. It's not a myth.
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I'm sure they do. It's just that as kids, we never saw any reason to use it in real life. I'm happy I was a science geek.Does high school science no longer discuss density?
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Approximation of calories for a pound of muscle is 600. However, BUILDING muscle isn't just about counting the calories for muscle. In other words, since protein is the only macro that builds muscle, you just can't eat 600 calories worth of protein over your TDEE and hope that turns into 1lb of muscle. It's much more complicated than that. Just like weight loss, weight gain will be a gain in fat and muscle.DetroitDarin wrote: »Anyone know - this is slightly related - the calories needed to BUILD a pound of muscle? We've heard 3000-3500 calories per pound of fat...but...
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OP - But the whole earth is floating in space - so since the earth is floating, does fat weigh anything at all?
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When people say this, I think they mean:
At the same volume, muscle weighs more than fat.
And this is clearly accurate.2 -
Tweaking_Time wrote: »OP - But the whole earth is floating in space - so since the earth is floating, does fat weigh anything at all?
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A pound is a pound no matter the material. However, by volume muscle is more dense than fat.
Look at it this way....Take a brick that weighs 10 lbs and then take a bag of feathers that weighs 10 lbs. They both weigh the same but that bag of feathers is going to be way bigger than the brick.1 -
Wynterbourne wrote: »maryhoule47 wrote: »Whether a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers. A pound is a pound is a pound. Muscle takes up less space than fat, but it does NOT weigh less. Another weight loss myth. I hate to see people deceived by this.
I hear ya, a pound is a pound, except.......be open to this.....
If you compare one cubic inch of fat to one cubic inch of muscle, then the muscle would weigh more than the fat because it (the fat) is denser. This is generally what a lot of people think when they say muscle weighs more than fat.
However, there are people who take the muscle weighs more than fat literally and believe that is the reason they are not losing weight.
You typo'd. The bolded should say (the muscle).
Yowsa!
You're right. 1 -
Mouse_Potato wrote: »I have never understood why this is a subject of such contention around here. When you compare two things, you must have a constant and it can't be the thing you are comparing. You can't take a pound of fat and a pound of muscle and ask which weighs more. It makes no sense to say I am as tall as Yao Ming because a meter of my body is as tall as a meter of his. That's not how comparisons work.
the only reason it gets contentious is when someone says they are not losing on a 1200 calories a day deficit and they are walking three times a week and someone comes in and says "well muscle weighs more than fat, so you are gaining muscle, which is why you are not losing" ...ummm no, that is not what is going on ...
Yup.1 -
Iron weighs more than Styrofoam.
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TheLegendaryBrandonHarris wrote: »Iron weighs more than Styrofoam.
Unless the sytrofoam has bricks in it, and the iron is made out of feathers.4 -
Tweaking_Time wrote: »OP - But the whole earth is floating in space - so since the earth is floating, does fat weigh anything at all?
Sure. Since atoms are mostly empty space, shouldn't we be traslucent?2 -
Seriously, are we here again? Like this topic hasn't been posted here for the zillionth time. Oh no... a zillion is not a real number. Quick! Someone call me out on it.4
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maryhoule47 wrote: »Whether a ton of bricks or a ton of feathers. A pound is a pound is a pound. Muscle takes up less space than fat, but it does NOT weigh less. Another weight loss myth. I hate to see people deceived by this.
How is this a weight loss myth?
And how are people being deceived by this "myth"?
I'm just having some trouble wrapping my head around how people are being duped by confusing equal pounds of two different things.
And how is the whole argument motivational or supportive?
That Earth post has me questioning my existence today.
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It's true, a zillion isn't a number, but muscle does weigh more than fat.Seriously, are we here again? Like this topic hasn't been posted here for the zillionth time. Oh no... a zillion is not a real number. Quick! Someone call me out on it.
There are lots and lots of repeated threads with the same questions over and over again. Answering them right isn't wrong.
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diannethegeek wrote: »Muscle does NOT take up less space than fat!!! Whether a gallon of bricks or a gallon of feathers. A gallon is a gallon is a gallon. Muscle weighs more than fat, but it does NOT take up less space. Another weight loss myth. I hate to see people deceived by this.
Beat me to it.
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maryhoule47 wrote: »Muscle does NOT weigh more than fat!!!
It's denser, and therefore weighs more by volume.
Being deliberately obtuse doesn't help anyone, particularly yourself.
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that's not being obtuse
that's explaining what people mean when they say muscle weighs more than fat0 -
It's true, a zillion isn't a number, but muscle does weigh more than fat.Seriously, are we here again? Like this topic hasn't been posted here for the zillionth time. Oh no... a zillion is not a real number. Quick! Someone call me out on it.
There are lots and lots of repeated threads with the same questions over and over again. Answering them right isn't wrong.
Only if the muscle and fat are of equal sizes.1 -
It's true, a zillion isn't a number, but muscle does weigh more than fat.Seriously, are we here again? Like this topic hasn't been posted here for the zillionth time. Oh no... a zillion is not a real number. Quick! Someone call me out on it.
There are lots and lots of repeated threads with the same questions over and over again. Answering them right isn't wrong.
Only if the muscle and fat are of equal sizes.
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It's true, a zillion isn't a number, but muscle does weigh more than fat.Seriously, are we here again? Like this topic hasn't been posted here for the zillionth time. Oh no... a zillion is not a real number. Quick! Someone call me out on it.
There are lots and lots of repeated threads with the same questions over and over again. Answering them right isn't wrong.
Only if the muscle and fat are of equal sizes.
Well, not only. I mean, if there's a higher volume of muscle, then it's still gonna weigh more. 0
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