Where am I going wrong?
sophieannstowers
Posts: 9 Member
Hi guys,
I've been 'dieting', or trying to eat a lot more healthily, for about 5 weeks now. I weigh 11st 8 and want to try and reach 10. I don't consume more than 1200 calories per day (only going over now and again and not by much), avoid fatty unhealthy foods and carbs, and do exercise classes (such as Zumba and clubbercise) around 3/4 times a week, supplementing days where I don't go with short bursts of HIT exercise.
However, I haven't lost a single pound, in fact, I've gained 1lb since I started. It's really getting to me and I feel so down as I hate my body and I'm worried it will never change. If anyone could give me any tips as to what worked for them or where I'm going wrong is really appreciate it.
I've been 'dieting', or trying to eat a lot more healthily, for about 5 weeks now. I weigh 11st 8 and want to try and reach 10. I don't consume more than 1200 calories per day (only going over now and again and not by much), avoid fatty unhealthy foods and carbs, and do exercise classes (such as Zumba and clubbercise) around 3/4 times a week, supplementing days where I don't go with short bursts of HIT exercise.
However, I haven't lost a single pound, in fact, I've gained 1lb since I started. It's really getting to me and I feel so down as I hate my body and I'm worried it will never change. If anyone could give me any tips as to what worked for them or where I'm going wrong is really appreciate it.
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How are you counting calories? Are you guessing, using measuring cups, or weighing in grams using a digital scale? Are you logging calories from exercise and eating them back? On the days where you go over calories, are you accurately tracking then, too?
You might consider setting your diary to public, if you're comfortable with that, as folks will be able to give more specific advice
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Hey Sophie. I've got no idea how you aren't losing weight at 1200cal and heavy exercise. Do you weigh everything you eat? All I can think of is that the calories you're entering are incorrect.
I would also like to point out that you don't have to avoid fatty and carb-filled foods to lose weight - it's all about calories in, calories out.
Also, how tall are you? 0 -
first thing first - eating healthy is a choice not a bypass to achieve results faster.
It is how much you eat not what you eat.
Second - whats your stats?
Last - post a typical "daily menu" with quantities please.2 -
Are you logging all your food on MFP and weighing/measuring strictly? That's the only way to really tell if you are sticking to your calorie goal. Are you new to exercise? As I understand it your body might hold on to some water weight if you start a particularly intensive new regime but that shouldn't last too long. I started at 11st 7 and have the same goal weight and daily calories as you, I found the scale didn't budge for the first couple of weeks but it's now coming off slowly but surely at about 1lb per week. I'm reasonably strict with logging everything I eat - including oils, spreads, condiments - and with weighing - I sometimes guesstimate amounts of low calorie items (like lettuce for example) but I weigh/measure most things. Also, check that you are using the correct entries from the database - I find a lot of entries are based on US brands/measurements so specifically search for entries in grams or with the UK supermarket/brand name so I get the correct information. If you are making lots of errors with your logging and not weighing strictly then this could easily mean you are eating more than you realise. Good luck!2
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Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck! 0
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Hi guys, thanks so much for your help!
I'm relatively new to this system so I do imagine I'm not entering foods strictly enough, I definitely think this could be where I'm going wrong so also imagine my expectations are a little too high! I do weigh some things I eat, but not everything, as I usually estimate based on the nutritional value provided on packaging etc.
Here is an example of a typical day for me (I did say I try to avoid carbs but looking at this I've realised I probably don't). I'm 18, do about 4 hours of exercise per week and I'm 5ft 5.
Breakfast: 30g of Cheerios with 125ml of skinned milk
Lunch: White grilled flatbread with 3 slices of wafer thin chicken and some salad
Dinner: 1.5 Lime and garlic chicken breasts with some Birdseye vegetables and a baked potato with butter
Snacks/drinks: Satsuma, Special K cereal bar, water, 2 cups of tea with a small amount of skimmed milk
The app estimated I ate about 1100kcal this day, and I did a 50 minute Zumba class in the morning.
Thanks guys, I'll definitely try and improve my diary skills!
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sophieannstowers wrote: »
Here is an example of a typical day for me (I did say I try to avoid carbs but looking at this I've realised I probably don't). I'm 18, do about 4 hours of exercise per week and I'm 5ft 5.
Breakfast: 30g of Cheerios with 125ml of skinned milk
Lunch: White grilled flatbread with 3 slices of wafer thin chicken and some salad
Dinner: 1.5 Lime and garlic chicken breasts with some Birdseye vegetables and a baked potato with butter
Snacks/drinks: Satsuma, Special K cereal bar, water, 2 cups of tea with a small amount of skimmed milk
The app estimated I ate about 1100kcal this day, and I did a 50 minute Zumba class in the morning.
Thanks guys, I'll definitely try and improve my diary skills!
how much of that stuff did you weigh on scales?0 -
kingdomtech wrote: »Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck!
Wrong - timings, metabolism, which macros to consume when total and absolutely wrong.
Metabolism works 24/7 and a meal won't speed it nor will it make function better.
Nutrients have no timings and only thing that might approach you to this theory is feeding your activities.... but even that....!11 -
kingdomtech wrote: »Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck!
^^ this IS NOT TRUE.
Losing weight is ALL about calories in and eating LESS than we burn.
OP if you start accurately tracking those calories and using a food scale you will lose weight.8 -
I weighed and measured my breakfast and the chicken/potato for dinner but not lunch.0
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Are you being 100% honest with yourself?5
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sophieannstowers wrote: »I weighed and measured my breakfast and the chicken/potato for dinner but not lunch.
what about the butter on your spud? no dressing on your lunch?0 -
Counted the teaspoon of butter on my spud! No dressing on the flatbread. Haha, I do think I'm being honest with myself but I get where you're coming from. Probably not being strict enough. Will definitely start weighing stuff a lot more and being very strict, plus will give 100% in my classes. Thanks guys, this was the kick that I needed !1
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sophieannstowers wrote: »Counted the teaspoon of butter on my spud! No dressing on the flatbread. Haha, I do think I'm being honest with myself but I get where you're coming from. Probably not being strict enough. Will definitely start weighing stuff a lot more and being very strict, plus will give 100% in my classes. Thanks guys, this was the kick that I needed !
if you're truly only eating 1200 cals per day and your weight hasn't moved in 5 weeks then i would say go to the docs. given your stats, you SHOULD be losing weight.
are you drinking any of your calories?2 -
Good luck Sophie, im looking for some extra weight if you can send it my way !
Like other posters have mentioned id check the ingredients and calories on anything you haven't made/cooked yourself.
Please believe me here, it's just as frustrating when you're trying to gain weight as it is when you're trying to lose it.
I'm having an Issue where I cannot get enough calories as I feel my stomach is full and wants no more.
It appears you're getting involved and doing enough exercise so I don't think it can be due to a lack of keeping fit.
Hold in there, that's what I keep telling myself !
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mrflipmode wrote: »Good luck Sophie, im looking for some extra weight if you can send it my way !
Like other posters have mentioned id check the ingredients and calories on anything you haven't made/cooked yourself.
Please believe me here, it's just as frustrating when you're trying to gain weight as it is when you're trying to lose it.
I'm having an Issue where I cannot get enough calories as I feel my stomach is full and wants no more.
It appears you're getting involved and doing enough exercise so I don't think it can be due to a lack of keeping fit.
Hold in there, that's what I keep telling myself !
Thanks for the help! Wishing you the best with your own journey, I really hope you can accomplish your goal. Keep going and we can do this!0 -
Just again, thanks for all of your help guys. I'm new to this type of tracking so think I need to improve. Definitely going to try and be a lot stricter with myself and weigh food and liquids this seems to be the key! I do think it might be my cups of tea and spreads etc that are catching me. Best of luck in all of your healthy lifestyles.0
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Is that typical of how you eat everyday, or do you have cheat days sometimes where you go over your calories?0
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@smotheredincheese I'd say that's pretty typical for about 5/6 days a week. Of a Saturday I might go over those calories because we usually have a bigger family dinner on a Saturday (most I've ever gone over by is about 200 cal, but usually it's between 50-100 as I'll try to skip lunch those days). Also might not go the gym on a scheduled if I'm busy so I won't burn as many calories and so instead of going 4 times a week I'll go 3.0
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kingdomtech wrote: »Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck!
Wrong - timings, metabolism, which macros to consume when total and absolutely wrong.
Metabolism works 24/7 and a meal won't speed it nor will it make function better.
Nutrients have no timings and only thing that might approach you to this theory is feeding your activities.... but even that....!
THAT IS NOT TRUE.. There is no tricking of the body and the point to just "lose weight" will not have long-term results. Our bodies were designed to process certain foods to do specific things. The idea that oatmeal will have the same effect on your body as chicken because "it's all calories" is preposterous. Nobody should trick there body to loose weight but recognizing what your body needs at the time it needs it is overall healthier and will lead to weight lose. In Sophia's example. She should eat the baked potato for lunch and have an extra portion of steamed vegetables in the evening with the protein.0 -
RunRutheeRun wrote: »kingdomtech wrote: »Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck!
^^ this IS NOT TRUE.
Losing weight is ALL about calories in and eating LESS than we burn.
OP if you start accurately tracking those calories and using a food scale you will lose weight.
I agree with the law of thermodynamics, if we burn more than we take in we will definitely lose weight. However, if we are not mindful of what we take in it may have negative effects. We don't want to cannibalize lean muscle and store fat (the body will do that in an unhealthy diet). That is why if we "come off" a diet there is immediate weight gain.0 -
kingdomtech wrote: »kingdomtech wrote: »Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck!
Wrong - timings, metabolism, which macros to consume when total and absolutely wrong.
Metabolism works 24/7 and a meal won't speed it nor will it make function better.
Nutrients have no timings and only thing that might approach you to this theory is feeding your activities.... but even that....!
THAT IS NOT TRUE.. There is no tricking of the body and the point to just "lose weight" will not have long-term results. Our bodies were designed to process certain foods to do specific things. The idea that oatmeal will have the same effect on your body as chicken because "it's all calories" is preposterous. Nobody should trick there body to loose weight but recognizing what your body needs at the time it needs it is overall healthier and will lead to weight lose. In Sophia's example. She should eat the baked potato for lunch and have an extra portion of steamed vegetables in the evening with the protein.
alrighty then......0 -
kingdomtech wrote: »kingdomtech wrote: »Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck!
Wrong - timings, metabolism, which macros to consume when total and absolutely wrong.
Metabolism works 24/7 and a meal won't speed it nor will it make function better.
Nutrients have no timings and only thing that might approach you to this theory is feeding your activities.... but even that....!
THAT IS NOT TRUE.. There is no tricking of the body and the point to just "lose weight" will not have long-term results. Our bodies were designed to process certain foods to do specific things. The idea that oatmeal will have the same effect on your body as chicken because "it's all calories" is preposterous. Nobody should trick there body to loose weight but recognizing what your body needs at the time it needs it is overall healthier and will lead to weight lose. In Sophia's example. She should eat the baked potato for lunch and have an extra portion of steamed vegetables in the evening with the protein.
riiiiiiiiight....
but no one would eat a diet of just chicken, or just oatmeal, so what you're saying IS NOT TRUE either....3 -
TavistockToad wrote: »kingdomtech wrote: »kingdomtech wrote: »Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck!
Wrong - timings, metabolism, which macros to consume when total and absolutely wrong.
Metabolism works 24/7 and a meal won't speed it nor will it make function better.
Nutrients have no timings and only thing that might approach you to this theory is feeding your activities.... but even that....!
THAT IS NOT TRUE.. There is no tricking of the body and the point to just "lose weight" will not have long-term results. Our bodies were designed to process certain foods to do specific things. The idea that oatmeal will have the same effect on your body as chicken because "it's all calories" is preposterous. Nobody should trick there body to loose weight but recognizing what your body needs at the time it needs it is overall healthier and will lead to weight lose. In Sophia's example. She should eat the baked potato for lunch and have an extra portion of steamed vegetables in the evening with the protein.
riiiiiiiiight....
but no one would eat a diet of just chicken, or just oatmeal, so what you're saying IS NOT TRUE either....
Not to mention, you could eat chicken in the morning and oatmeal for dinner, and it would not matter for weight loss.
I agree that it's important to have a good variety for nutritional purposes, but eating "healthy" and timing has zero effect if looking at it purely from a weight loss perspective. It's all about calories.1 -
It doesn't matter what time you eat, I eat popcorn all the time at 10-11PM, dinner at 9PM. Breakfast at 12PM, fast food etc. Recently I've lost 7 lbs in 2 weeks eating at 1500 calories at a sedentary level, and over 50 lbs in the long run from past dieting. Losing weight is a matter of calories in vs calories out.0
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dragon_girl26 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kingdomtech wrote: »kingdomtech wrote: »Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck!
Wrong - timings, metabolism, which macros to consume when total and absolutely wrong.
Metabolism works 24/7 and a meal won't speed it nor will it make function better.
Nutrients have no timings and only thing that might approach you to this theory is feeding your activities.... but even that....!
THAT IS NOT TRUE.. There is no tricking of the body and the point to just "lose weight" will not have long-term results. Our bodies were designed to process certain foods to do specific things. The idea that oatmeal will have the same effect on your body as chicken because "it's all calories" is preposterous. Nobody should trick there body to loose weight but recognizing what your body needs at the time it needs it is overall healthier and will lead to weight lose. In Sophia's example. She should eat the baked potato for lunch and have an extra portion of steamed vegetables in the evening with the protein.
riiiiiiiiight....
but no one would eat a diet of just chicken, or just oatmeal, so what you're saying IS NOT TRUE either....
Not to mention, you could eat chicken in the morning and oatmeal for dinner, and it would not matter for weight loss.
I agree that it's important to have a good variety for nutritional purposes, but eating "healthy" and timing has zero effect if looking at it purely from a weight loss perspective. It's all about calories.
Yup - however the "should be eating the potato for lunch and keep the veg and protein for dinner" topic precipitates anyones ability to even try to have a conversation....1 -
dragon_girl26 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kingdomtech wrote: »kingdomtech wrote: »Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck!
Wrong - timings, metabolism, which macros to consume when total and absolutely wrong.
Metabolism works 24/7 and a meal won't speed it nor will it make function better.
Nutrients have no timings and only thing that might approach you to this theory is feeding your activities.... but even that....!
THAT IS NOT TRUE.. There is no tricking of the body and the point to just "lose weight" will not have long-term results. Our bodies were designed to process certain foods to do specific things. The idea that oatmeal will have the same effect on your body as chicken because "it's all calories" is preposterous. Nobody should trick there body to loose weight but recognizing what your body needs at the time it needs it is overall healthier and will lead to weight lose. In Sophia's example. She should eat the baked potato for lunch and have an extra portion of steamed vegetables in the evening with the protein.
riiiiiiiiight....
but no one would eat a diet of just chicken, or just oatmeal, so what you're saying IS NOT TRUE either....
Not to mention, you could eat chicken in the morning and oatmeal for dinner, and it would not matter for weight loss.
I agree that it's important to have a good variety for nutritional purposes, but eating "healthy" and timing has zero effect if looking at it purely from a weight loss perspective. It's all about calories.
Yup - however the "should be eating the potato for lunch and keep the veg and protein for dinner" topic precipitates anyones ability to even try to have a conversation....
Wait, you mean I can't have my fried potatoes and fifth of whiskey for breakfast anymore? Darn..
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dragon_girl26 wrote: »dragon_girl26 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »kingdomtech wrote: »kingdomtech wrote: »Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck!
Wrong - timings, metabolism, which macros to consume when total and absolutely wrong.
Metabolism works 24/7 and a meal won't speed it nor will it make function better.
Nutrients have no timings and only thing that might approach you to this theory is feeding your activities.... but even that....!
THAT IS NOT TRUE.. There is no tricking of the body and the point to just "lose weight" will not have long-term results. Our bodies were designed to process certain foods to do specific things. The idea that oatmeal will have the same effect on your body as chicken because "it's all calories" is preposterous. Nobody should trick there body to loose weight but recognizing what your body needs at the time it needs it is overall healthier and will lead to weight lose. In Sophia's example. She should eat the baked potato for lunch and have an extra portion of steamed vegetables in the evening with the protein.
riiiiiiiiight....
but no one would eat a diet of just chicken, or just oatmeal, so what you're saying IS NOT TRUE either....
Not to mention, you could eat chicken in the morning and oatmeal for dinner, and it would not matter for weight loss.
I agree that it's important to have a good variety for nutritional purposes, but eating "healthy" and timing has zero effect if looking at it purely from a weight loss perspective. It's all about calories.
Yup - however the "should be eating the potato for lunch and keep the veg and protein for dinner" topic precipitates anyones ability to even try to have a conversation....
Wait, you mean I can't have my fried potatoes and fifth of whiskey for breakfast anymore? Darn..
anytime is a good time for whiskey.... However carbs so early in the mooning?!?!? I'd rather wait to be baked.... unless you wake and bake obviously!0 -
A scale will put things in perspective. I found out I was eating 3-4 times the amount of peanut butter than I was logging. It made me never want to eat peanut butter again when I saw what a REAL 190 calorie serving was. It looks not worth it to me now, but there is a time and place for it for sure
I honestly was probably eating half my days worth of calories in peanut butter and was logging 190 calories. Same with hummus (only not as high in calories as peanut butter).
Just be aware, and once you see what a REAL serving size is, it will change how you look at your choices, and options.
I got a boost of motivation when I realized how OFF I was in measuring my food, because I knew that was why I had stopped losing weight.2 -
kingdomtech wrote: »Hey Sophie, counting calories is not the main thing. It is important to TIME your calories correctly in the day to help your metabolism. For example, popcorn in the evening may have little calories but you should try to eat ALL your carbs before the evening. Mornings should be HIGH Carb, little protein and fat, midday should be MEDIUM CARBS, MODERATE protein and fat. Try to not eat carbs or have light carbs after lunch (i.e. no pasta, rice, or potatoes for dinner. ALSO the body has a difficult time with HIGH CARB and HIGH PROTEIN so DON'T DO IT. Good luck!
Please completely ignore this advise. Meal timing is irrelevant to weight loss. Eat at whatever times best fit your schedule. Unless you have a medical reason to limit carbs, then carbs are not bad for you. Some people find them less satiating than protien, but you can eat carbs and still lose weight as long as you stay at your calorie goal. I would agree with those who have suggested a food scale. It sounds like you may be eating more than you think so make sure that you are weighing all your solid food and only use measuring cups for liquids. And double check your database entries, they are not all correct. And be patient. That is often the hardest part about losing weight.6
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