Some Questions for the Experienced
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Hey everybody,
I’m fairly new to MFP and definitely new to an intentionally healthy lifestyle… I’ve just run into a couple of questions over the past month or so and thought those of you who were more experienced may be able to help. I hope this is the right place to post it!
First… exercise. In the past, I’ve always found it really intimidating to try to go about doing a three-times a week, 30 min, cardio + strength exercise program. It just feels like if I’m not sweating the whole time, or if my heart isn’t beating super fast, or if I don’t do it regularly, it isn’t really worth it. Plus, just trying makes me feel guilty and pressured. But MFP says that I can just walk 3 mph for 30 min and burn 134 calories. Is that actually substantial? Is that enough for exercise or do I have to do more? Do I need to be doing that three times a week for it to have an effect on my body? I find that to be really low-pressure and totally do-able. Are there any other exercises that are like that?
Also, sometimes I’m not very hungry but my calorie goal is 200 or 300 away for the day. I’ve found that I tend to end up eating something super sweet, like M&Ms or ice cream, because I know it’s high in calories. But do you guys have any recommendations for high-calorie foods that are healthier?
Lastly, I went on and read some of the boards recently and noticed the phrase “eating back your exercise calories” a lot. What exactly does that mean? I tend to exercise mostly when I eat more calories then I should, as a way to bring the balance back down. Is that bad?
Thank you all so much!
I’m fairly new to MFP and definitely new to an intentionally healthy lifestyle… I’ve just run into a couple of questions over the past month or so and thought those of you who were more experienced may be able to help. I hope this is the right place to post it!
First… exercise. In the past, I’ve always found it really intimidating to try to go about doing a three-times a week, 30 min, cardio + strength exercise program. It just feels like if I’m not sweating the whole time, or if my heart isn’t beating super fast, or if I don’t do it regularly, it isn’t really worth it. Plus, just trying makes me feel guilty and pressured. But MFP says that I can just walk 3 mph for 30 min and burn 134 calories. Is that actually substantial? Is that enough for exercise or do I have to do more? Do I need to be doing that three times a week for it to have an effect on my body? I find that to be really low-pressure and totally do-able. Are there any other exercises that are like that?
Also, sometimes I’m not very hungry but my calorie goal is 200 or 300 away for the day. I’ve found that I tend to end up eating something super sweet, like M&Ms or ice cream, because I know it’s high in calories. But do you guys have any recommendations for high-calorie foods that are healthier?
Lastly, I went on and read some of the boards recently and noticed the phrase “eating back your exercise calories” a lot. What exactly does that mean? I tend to exercise mostly when I eat more calories then I should, as a way to bring the balance back down. Is that bad?
Thank you all so much!
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I would say starting with walking for 30 minutes 3x a week is a good way to start exercise. It isn't going to make a huge dent as far as giving you a ton more calories to eat, but it's a good start. I have less willpower with food, so I try to exercise more so I can eat more (and it's a vicious cycle. lol). Other good beginner exercises, IMO, would be bicycling, step aerobics, or other low-impact aerobic tapes. I'm a big fan the 30 day shred (Jillian Michaels workout tape) because it's only 25ish minutes from start-to-finish and it kicks *kitten*.
High calorie foods that are a bit healthier: peanut butter, avocado, a handful of mixed nuts, etc.
Eating back your exercise calories means that if your base calorie goal is 1200 (for example) and you exercise 300 calories worth, you should eat 1500 calories total. You should eat back the ones you burn off by exercising.0 -
First of all, welcome! This site is awesome. Okay..I wouldn't call a 30 minute walk 3 times a week enough for substantial weight loss. If you've got a lot to lose, it's a good place to start, but you'll definitely want to add more into your workout week. I think 5 or 6 days a week is better; you still get rest days. Bike riding is really good, and there are tons of good workout DVDs you could try. Next, high cal healthier food..what about peanut butter? Takes care of my craving for sweets and it's calorie dense. Finally, eating back your exercise calories means that if you burn 200 calories during your workout, you get to eat 200 extra calories. Good luck!!0
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Disclaimer: This is what has and does work for me:
Frst off WELCOME!! This is a great place of support and encouragement.
I started out working out just 20mins a day 4x a week and upped it from there. I am now running/walking brisk on a treadmill 6x a week for at least 30 mins. Now I use a 4+ incline to help burn more calories while workingout. Not yet once, have I never sweated "enough" while working out on my treadmill with an incline
MFP's numbers are not always accuate, as everyone burns cals at different rates. If you use a treadmill or ellpitcal I'd go with those numbers. You may able to start losing with only working out a few times a week. (it depends on if you have a lot or little to lose).
A lower impact workout could also be done on a stationary bike.
In place of M&M's I would consider coca almonds, trail mix, or a protein bar.
I RARELY eat back my "exercise Calories" you will get a variety of responses on this subject. I don't eat back my exercise calories b/c I still have enough "fluff" that eathing them back won't help me lose any weight.
Example of "eating back exercise cals" Your "food" calorie intake is 1300 and say you workout and burn 300 cals. Your NEW goal is now 1600. If ate back all my execise cals, I'd hve to eat a bunch of junk food which I won't do.
I hope this helps! My diary is open if you need any food suggestions0 -
Going for a walk is definitely exercise. I started with walking and playing Wii Fit, which isn't very intimidating either. But with both exercises, if I pushed myself I could tell it was making a difference. After awhile, I had more energy and wanted to try more and exercise more regularly. It did wonders for my mood!
You might want to think about getting a heart rate monitor to more accurately track your calories burnt. I've heard MFP overestimates. I don't have one myself, I always just take 10-15 minutes off my walks. I figure it's better to underestimate than overestimate.
Some higher calorie snack foods i enjoy are pita and hummus, various fruits (a medium banana is 105 cals, for example), nuts, peanut butter and bread, a cup of a good granola or fibre cereal with 1/2 cup of milk. Just make sure to pay attention to the portion/serving sizes.
Eating back your calories means just what the above poster said. I've been eating back my exercise calories the entire time I've been on MFP, and I've lost 24 lbs so far, so don't worry about it "cancelling out" the effects of your exercise. If you don't eat back at least most of your exercise calories, your body isn't really getting enough nutrition to keep it running at 100%.
I hope that helps a bit and good luck on your journey! Feel free to friend me if you'd like0 -
Weight loss is 80% diet and 20% exercise. I've seen that on the boards here, and had it confirmed today by a dietitian. If your only goal is weight loss, technically you don't NEED to exercise. Exercise will make you stronger and healthier, but weight loss is really just about calories in and calories out.
You kind of already figured out the "eating back your exercise calories" thing. If you exercise, you get to eat more calories during the day. The people above me explained it well.
My favorite snack at the end of the day to hit my calorie goal when I'm not especially hungry is an ounce of almonds for 171 calories. It's filling if you're a little hungry, but it's not a huge volume if you're not.
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I think the key is finding some type of exercise that you like to do, therefore will be more likely to stick to it. The more exercise, the more fit you will become. Every little bit helps.
Eating back exercise calories is how MFP is designed. I joined in March and for the first few weeks I was focused mainly on calories. After the first couple of weeks I started some exercise, and have increased the frequency and duration of my workouts.
Also keep in mind that muscles will burn more calories while you are resting. More muscle = more calories burned even while you sleep.
Good luck! Just find some type of exercise you like and stick with it. If you start getting bored with your routine (whether it is walking or whatever) then it might be time to add another type of exercise into your routine.
Oh and about eating the extra couple of hundred calories just to reach your goal number - sometimes I don't reach my goal number of calories, sometimes I am over my calories. As long as it averages out to your goal number for the week, I wouldn't stress out over it.0 -
Hey everybody,
I’m fairly new to MFP and definitely new to an intentionally healthy lifestyle… I’ve just run into a couple of questions over the past month or so and thought those of you who were more experienced may be able to help. I hope this is the right place to post it!
First… exercise. In the past, I’ve always found it really intimidating to try to go about doing a three-times a week, 30 min, cardio + strength exercise program. It just feels like if I’m not sweating the whole time, or if my heart isn’t beating super fast, or if I don’t do it regularly, it isn’t really worth it. Plus, just trying makes me feel guilty and pressured. But MFP says that I can just walk 3 mph for 30 min and burn 134 calories. Is that actually substantial? Is that enough for exercise or do I have to do more? Do I need to be doing that three times a week for it to have an effect on my body? I find that to be really low-pressure and totally do-able. Are there any other exercises that are like that?
Also, sometimes I’m not very hungry but my calorie goal is 200 or 300 away for the day. I’ve found that I tend to end up eating something super sweet, like M&Ms or ice cream, because I know it’s high in calories. But do you guys have any recommendations for high-calorie foods that are healthier?
Lastly, I went on and read some of the boards recently and noticed the phrase “eating back your exercise calories” a lot. What exactly does that mean? I tend to exercise mostly when I eat more calories then I should, as a way to bring the balance back down. Is that bad?
Thank you all so much!
MFP is set up to achieve your weight loss goals even without exercise. It's a good idea to exercise though as it improves your health and mood. Yes, walking is a great exercise, especially if you are a new exerciser. As your walks get easier, you may want to increase the pace or find hillier routes or incorporate some stairs or maybe even start the Couch to 5K program(which takes sedentary people from no running to running a 5k-3.1 miles- in about 8 weeks).
If you're having difficulty meeting your calorie goal, there are a few things that you can do. One strategy is to add 50 calories to every meal and snack so you aren't faced with a huge gap at day's end.
You can also rethink what you're eating and add some more calorie-dense foods. If you've cut most of the fat from your diet, add some back into it. Nuts and nut butters have a lot of calories for small portions and have the good fats. You could go from skim milk to 2%. You could go from fat-free cheeses to 50% reduced fat or full fat (adding an ounce of cheese to something doesn't seem like a chore, right?). Full fat salad dressing instead of no-fat. Eating whole eggs instead of just eggwhites. Lots of possibilities there that are all better choices than M&Ms.
Re: exercise calories: MFP basically determines your calorie goals this way(which is all laid out on your Goals page) and I'll use a 1lb per week weight loss goal:
(BMR calories + Activity Level Calories) - 500 calories = Your Daily Calorie Goal
On days that you exercise, the formula looks like this:
(BMR calories + Activity Level Calories + Exercise Calories) - 500 calories = Your Daily Calorie Goal
MFP aims for you to have a CONSISTENT calorie deficit whether or not you exercise. Generally speaking, people who have BMIs of 30 or above can get away with not eating their exercise calories and people who are within a normal BMI range need to eat at least some of them back.0 -
It's great that you are motivated and that will grow. It's also great that you know your vulnerabilities and what you need to work to strengthen, you can and you will!
Yes, to the avocados, all nut butters (PB, almond, sunflower, cashew...in small amounts), try a smoothie (protein powder with some skim or almond milk, and a piece of banana or some strawberries), fruit with yogurt, some cheese with fruit....real labels and check out other people's diaries for ideas too.
Some things you should plan to invest in if you don't have them:
good food scale (make sure you are accurate so you have real calories consumed)
measuring cups
Polar heart rate monitor (that will tell you accurately what you're burning with exercise, MFP database can be really off)
I would "friend" stroutman81 and SHBOSS1673...both are unbelievable trainers who are super educated on nutrition, physiology, etc. and have blogs that cover alot of these issues in-depth and so much more.... you need to figure out your numbers before you decide whether you need to eat your exercise calories back or not and know what you're burning w/ exercise and also depends on how much you need to lose, and....your experiment is are you losing at a healthy pace....
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I don't think that walking 30 minutes three days a week would have a substantial influence on stamina or weight loss, unless you are starting after years of an extremely sedentary lifestyle and have a serious amount of excess weight. In that case it can be a great start. Otherwise that amount of walking should be considered just PART of a healthy lifestyle and not really part of exercise.
Having said that, I believe that walking 60+ minutes a day 6-7 days a week has helped me lose and keep off nearly 50 pounds. And I do it to get from place to place, not just to exercise so it really doesn't take up any more This is only my opinion and experiences, but walking a lot everyday has helped me muscular and cardiovascular strength and endurance that I didn't have before, even if it isn't as quick or intense as running. And I've lost about 16 inches from my waist, hips, and thighs. I do yoga and light aerobics sometimes too, but this is mostly just walking.
And mentally I feel way better. It really helps prevent going office crazy and I'm way more alert at work and class after a brisk walk. (Especially when brisk means -40C degrees outside, gotta love Canada =P).
Sorry, I know I'm ranting. I just really believe in daily walking as part of a healthy lifestyle.0 -
1) Exercise:
Started with small goals and exceed them.
The woman next to me at work mocked me for my 10 min work outs.
(and she was of course doing 0 min work outs)
Getting away from my desk and getting dressed is actual the hard part.
I went to the gym saying I'd do at least 10 minutes, Once I was there I usually did at least 20.
I try to get 2x a week in, but 1x a week is better than 0x.
Bit by bit I'm going longer and adding more things to work out.
I'm to somewhere between 45-60 minutes now.
If you are doing stationary bike or elliptical you can plug in your weight and age and it will tell you what your target heart rate should be. I have a hard time slowing down enough to stay in my age appropriate zone and oddly enough I don't feel my heart pounding out of my chest.
The gym machines always have a lower caloric burn than MFP I usually go with the lower number.
When I was at the 1 lb/wk target I found as little as 100 exercise calories made a tremendous in my being satisfied.
Even if it doesn't seem like you are burning that many calories, you are toning up your muscles. Muscle increases your metabolism and burn calories all by themselves. So you get a two-fold benefit.
Peanuts, Avocado and Juice are my healthy choices for nutrient dense foods when I have calories to make up at the end of the day. (If I have calories left at the end of the day I don't feel guilty about having a sweet treat. But the thing is sugar increases my appetite. So I never eat all the calories I have left in sweets, because often I'll be looking for some real food 20 minutes later.)
MFP wants you to eat at least 1200 calories NET to get all of the nutrition you need to fuel your body and not lose muscle mass.
Say you used to eat 1900 calories to maintain your starting weight and you chose the lose 1 lb/wk options
MFP will subtract a 500 calorie deficit...
And your target will be 1400 calories...
And let's say you do 450 calories worth of exercise...
You can:
1) eat 1850 calories to NET 1400 calories (and keep on track on you 1 lb/wk loss)
2) eat 1650 calories to NET 1200 calories (possibly lose more than 1 lb/wk or have a cushion for unscheduled overage later)
There are big debates as whether or not to “eat back your exercise calories”
the theory being you body needs enough fuel to do the things you ask of it.
and if you NET less than 1200 calories a day on a regular basis will go into starvation mode and
1) you body will do everything it can to hang onto fuel including stock piling it as fat
2) you will lose muscle mass. Muscle mass increases your metabolism and helps you lose fat.
Many people assume the bigger the calorie deficit the quicker they will lose.
I think it everybody is different, but studies show that losing slower is healthier, and increases the odds of keeping it off.0 -
THANK YOU all so much! You guys are all incredibly helpful. And your kindness and honesty in responses is really encouraging0
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