Can we have a civilized debate on breakfast? To eat or not to eat!

DanerTee
DanerTee Posts: 263 Member
edited December 3 in Health and Weight Loss
So, I dunno what to think about the whole, breakfast is the most important meal of the day vs CICO, doesn't matter what or when, but matters how many calories you consume.

Reason I ask is, I have a fairly low target of 1330 cals per day, and I find that if I skip breakfast I have more calories for lunch and dinner. My trigger craving time is the evening, so if I am forced into a light dinner because of breakfast and lunch, I am much more prone to binge eating. If I skip breakfast, which is a time of day I'm legit not hungry, so I don't miss it, I can eat more in the evening and avoid having a craving AND hunger to contend with.

Am I screwing myself in some way? Is this an OK thing to do? Has anyone out there skipped breakfast and continued to lose weight just as fast as with breakfast?

Thanks!
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  • Mentali
    Mentali Posts: 352 Member
    That's what I do. I find that having breakfast doesn't make me want lunch or dinner any less, so I just skip it.
  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,647 Member
    Do whatever works for you. If you don't feel like you need breakfast and you'd rather have those calories at dinner, go for it. There's no "starvation mode" if you don't eat breakfast, and eating it doesn't "start your metabolism" as someone will surely be along to claim at some point in this thread. It's all about sustainability.
  • esjones12
    esjones12 Posts: 1,363 Member
    There is a lot of emerging science that shows many benefits to not having breakfast. Around 6:10 in this podcast you can hear two top health and fitness professionals discussing the benefits of it: https://bengreenfieldfitness.com/2016/08/the-ryan-munsey-podcast/

    I've been struggling to stay on my nutrition plan due to outside circumstances....but when I'm on it I can easily go from 7pm to 12:30pm with just a bit of green or oolong tea when I wake up and an optional snack of 1/4c cashews at 10ish if needed. I too have always struggled with binge eating (tied to my emotions)....I do best when I stay BUSY during the evenings. If I'm just at home sitting around the food in the cupboards start talking to me.

    That all being said - every body is different and will respond to different nutrition habits differently. I can go days without carbs....some people can't. So give it a try and see if it works better for you! Just make sure overall you are covering your nutritional needs.
  • diannethegeek
    diannethegeek Posts: 14,776 Member
    If you have a medical need for breakfast, then you should probably eat it. If you don't, then it's entirely personal preference based on what makes you feel best.
  • MiMi_5151
    MiMi_5151 Posts: 41 Member
    I stopped eating breakfast a couple weeks ago to follow a 14/10 IF. It's been great. I love being able to have a decent lunch and then have plenty of calories remaining to use for a great dinner, including a beer or glass of wine ;) . I had stalled in my weight loss and this help get me back losing again. As others have said, when/how often you eat isn't as important as maintaining your deficit. For me, I can accomplish this by skipping breakfast. Your mileage may vary.
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    There's really no need to debate this... it's really different for all of us. If you're fine without eating it, don't.
  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    I don't eat breakfast either.
  • DanerTee
    DanerTee Posts: 263 Member
    thanks everyone, I figured it didn't really matter if I ate breakfast or not, but you know what "they" say and yeah, I don't want to hinder my progress. Also, even if skipping breakfast were "bad" I'd think it is safe to say that a 2000 calorie night binge is somewhat worse!
  • King_Spicy
    King_Spicy Posts: 821 Member
    I usually just eat when I can and don't even follow a diet, but Harvard seems to hate breakfast skippers. They have half a dozen pages about it and this.

  • airigami
    airigami Posts: 14 Member
    @King_Spicy They probably think like that since if you eat breakfast, you can focus more and not be so sleepy. But from my experience, eating breakfast just made my stomach upset and it was hard to eat with the family who wanted breakfast. Not to mention most breakfasts have sugar on it. Unless you're eating mostly fruit and good eggs; Bacon, Pancakes with Syrup, Coffee, Cereals (if not the good kinds), etc. are usually full of sugar and are not the healthy kind anyways. That's why it's always best to let people choose if they want breakfast.
  • jdhcm2006
    jdhcm2006 Posts: 2,254 Member
    I eat it b/c I'm used to it. Normally, I'll wake up and after about 10 minutes my stomach is being a grouch and telling me to eat and drink something. But I tend to push it off for an hour and a half or so until I get to work. I personally find that putting a little food and some water in my belly helps me pay attention better, but that's just me. Plus, I really love breakfast foods.
  • King_Spicy
    King_Spicy Posts: 821 Member
    airigami wrote: »
    @King_Spicy They probably think like that since if you eat breakfast, you can focus more and not be so sleepy. But from my experience, eating breakfast just made my stomach upset and it was hard to eat with the family who wanted breakfast. Not to mention most breakfasts have sugar on it. Unless you're eating mostly fruit and good eggs; Bacon, Pancakes with Syrup, Coffee, Cereals (if not the good kinds), etc. are usually full of sugar and are not the healthy kind anyways. That's why it's always best to let people choose if they want breakfast.

    @airigami , no, they were all articles related to weight loss and diseases
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    King_Spicy wrote: »
    airigami wrote: »
    @King_Spicy They probably think like that since if you eat breakfast, you can focus more and not be so sleepy. But from my experience, eating breakfast just made my stomach upset and it was hard to eat with the family who wanted breakfast. Not to mention most breakfasts have sugar on it. Unless you're eating mostly fruit and good eggs; Bacon, Pancakes with Syrup, Coffee, Cereals (if not the good kinds), etc. are usually full of sugar and are not the healthy kind anyways. That's why it's always best to let people choose if they want breakfast.

    @airigami , no, they were all articles related to weight loss and diseases

    Could you post some?
  • bunnyluv19
    bunnyluv19 Posts: 103 Member
    Coffee,only in the morning for me :smile: I prefer to use most of those calories for my bedtime snack.
  • King_Spicy
    King_Spicy Posts: 821 Member
    I would take Harvard's opinion well above my own. lol
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    King_Spicy wrote: »
    I would take Harvard's opinion well above my own. lol

    Those aren't Harvard's opinions. They are just the publisher.
  • Ready2Rock206
    Ready2Rock206 Posts: 9,487 Member
    I need to eat breakfast because otherwise I'm hangry and difficult to be around. But just because I need breakfast doesn't mean it is the right plan for everyone. Do what works for you.
  • Troutsy
    Troutsy Posts: 275 Member
    DanerTee wrote: »
    So, I dunno what to think about the whole, breakfast is the most important meal of the day vs CICO, doesn't matter what or when, but matters how many calories you consume.

    Reason I ask is, I have a fairly low target of 1330 cals per day, and I find that if I skip breakfast I have more calories for lunch and dinner. My trigger craving time is the evening, so if I am forced into a light dinner because of breakfast and lunch, I am much more prone to binge eating. If I skip breakfast, which is a time of day I'm legit not hungry, so I don't miss it, I can eat more in the evening and avoid having a craving AND hunger to contend with.

    Am I screwing myself in some way? Is this an OK thing to do? Has anyone out there skipped breakfast and continued to lose weight just as fast as with breakfast?

    Thanks!

    To each his own. Some people like to eat breakfast as it keeps them full until lunch, other people I know skip it all together because their stomach's don't tolerate food that early in the morning. As long as you are hitting your calorie and nutritional needs you should be golden OP. It sounds like you've identified something that works for you to keep you from binging at night and that's awesome.
  • cerise_noir
    cerise_noir Posts: 5,468 Member
    edited August 2016
    You can eat it if you want to , but you don't have to eat it.

    For me, personally, I'd have to have around half my daily intake of fiber and about 1/3 of my fats and protein to make a breakfast last.
    King_Spicy wrote: »
    I would take Harvard's opinion well above my own. lol

    "Harvard's" opinion (actually it was one of their bloggers) is that calorie counting apps like MFP aren't helpful. That pretty much did it for me. Just because a blog carries the name of a prestigious institution, that doesn't make it more valid than the opinion of any other schmo.
    This. SO much this. "Calorie counting doesn't help"--- errr, no thanks.
  • VintageFeline
    VintageFeline Posts: 6,771 Member
    Breakfast being the most important meal of the day was the creation of the marketing department of a breakfast cereal manufacturer no? Kellogs IIRC?

    Therefore. Eat it or don't, whatever works for you. On workout days I need it. On days I don't and have plans for bigger meals later in the day, I happily skip it.
  • King_Spicy
    King_Spicy Posts: 821 Member
    King_Spicy wrote: »
    I would take Harvard's opinion well above my own. lol

    "Harvard's" opinion (actually it was one of their bloggers) is that calorie counting apps like MFP aren't helpful. That pretty much did it for me. Just because a blog carries the name of a prestigious institution, that doesn't make it more valid than the opinion of any other schmo.

    Which article was this? Link?

    Only thing I could find for calorie counting was them recommending it: http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/calorie-counting-made-easy

    and this NYtimes article referencing a harvard study using it, stating that macros and nutrients need to be included into the calorie counting: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/19/health/19brody.html?_r=0
  • ccrdragon
    ccrdragon Posts: 3,374 Member
    Breakfast being the most important meal of the day was the creation of the marketing department of a breakfast cereal manufacturer no? Kellogs IIRC?

    Actually, I think it was the USDA (Dept of Agriculture) and was designed to sell the products from the farms that they were supporting (but I may be wrong on that...)

    For the OP - I eat breakfast every day, it's just that Monday thru Friday, I don't eat it before noon (on days that start at 4:30)... I eat breakfast at the normal time on he weekends because of family commitments (or else I would eat it much later then as well). If it works for you to skip breakfast, then by all means, skip it.
  • CatchMom11
    CatchMom11 Posts: 462 Member
    I do understand you questioning because it's been pounded in our brains that breakfast is the most important meal because it gets your metabolism going... yada yada yada.

    Without knowing anything about IF, I have found that I do prefer skipping breakfast most days and those end up being the days that I'm successful and see progress. I thought maybe it was just a fluke, but then heard about IF.
  • Return2Fit
    Return2Fit Posts: 226 Member
    I got into Intermittent Fasting some years back and found it a useful tool for calorie control and it might even have reduced my body fat in weight maintenance though I can't say for sure.
    The fat loss could be from other actions I engage.

    Best of luck to you, and remember, breakfast is for sissies...
    DEBATE OVER ---> :p sorry...another one of my silly attempts at humor... :s

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