Why do we cheat and fail?
Jimbob_James99
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This always happens to me, it's like a big cycle. I'll eat well for about a week or two following my macros well. Then one day I just feel the need to eat bad foods and eat as much as I can!
Why does our mind feel the need to do this? Why do we seem to fail so easily? It annoys me so much
Why does our mind feel the need to do this? Why do we seem to fail so easily? It annoys me so much
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My reason is depression, and excuses4
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Mainly if you arent allowing yourself the foods you love .Its okay to eat them in small portions .If you deprive yourself from them it sometimes results in binges.6
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I kept letting myself justify and push people away0
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Because we believe it's cheating and failing.
I don't have "bad foods". Your overall diet can be good or bad, depending on whether it gives sufficient nutrition to meet your needs and goals, but there's no benefit for getting extra nutrients except expensive pee. There's also little reason to be super strict on macros. You need to get sufficient essential fats and sufficient proteins, but beyond that, your body doesn't need a finely tuned macro ratio to operate - it's designed to take in a plethora of compounds and extract energy from whatever it can.
I had a burger and ice cream today. I'll still meet my goals just fine, because I planned to have it. I ate what I intended to, and I'll stay on track.12 -
Because "eating well" isn't eating well at all, and you are depriving yourself of the foods you love and lots of the nutriton you need, and replacing that with arbitrary, strange foods and eating rules. That's why.5
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You let this lifestyle be a chore and a noose around your neck. Let it go and start off by doing exercise you enjoy, then slowly fine tune the foods you love as the time goes by.
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I tend to emo eat. Not good since I have been down in the dumps lately.1
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Craving is my downfall ,I'm a sweet craver1
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What is success? Get a clear understanding of that, and it will become impossible to fail.1
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Food is food - it is not the quality but the quantity that will lead you somewhere. C.I.C.O.
Aiming at quality is a personal choice you make - looking into the quantity is wanting to make a change.
The day you want to eat "bad food" just eat it - track it, adjust your macros for the rest of the day and move on.2 -
angelei177 wrote: »Craving is my downfall ,I'm a sweet craver
Everybody loves sweets. Our current food environment is difficult to navigate. It takes a lot of skill and time to find an enjoyable way to eat that doesn't harm you.3 -
kommodevaran wrote: »angelei177 wrote: »Craving is my downfall ,I'm a sweet craver
Everybody loves sweets. Our current food environment is difficult to navigate. It takes a lot of skill and time to find an enjoyable way to eat that doesn't harm you.
This. The foods that are widely advertised, highly palatable, and available everywhere are largely high in calories and low in nutrition. I keep seeing "just eat a little" and I guess some people can do that, but it never worked out for me. Why torture myself with three bites or what have you and never be satisfied.
I spent the first month of my weight loss endeavor taking RX weight loss meds under the supervision of a doctor and a nutritionist to get me past that whole going bananas out of control thing where you crave and crave then you try to have just a little and you end up bingeing on everything you can get. After that month of meds I got past the part where this happens and learned to eat high nutrition, low cal. So now I abstain from those trigger foods. If I buy them, I will eat the whole mess in one sitting. Then I'll be fat again. I didn't go through all this calorie counting and sweating at the gym in order to just get fat again.
Husband brings home or orders junk all the time. And stays fat. I won't even look at it. I lost my extra 40 lb three years ago and I still wear that size 8. You sound like the kind of person who may need to abstain from trigger foods, since you describe going out of control with them. I know it's hard. Get to a location or be doing something where it's next to impossible to get those things. Be in the gym, be out walking, be doing some kind of chore. Not sitting in front of the TV or computer thinking about stuff that will make you fat if you eat it. Remove your mind and your body from the temptation. Try seeing a nutritionist or dietitian if there is a way to pay for it. They can help you form strategies.
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When I go more than a few days eating low calorie, having a blow out day is always expected. I have also found not eating the things I want when I want them leads to that as well. Stress hormones aren't kind.
Oddly enough, when I do IF and have up to maintenance calories on some days, I tend to find it leaps and bounds easier to moderate my food even though it's preceded by a very low calorie day. I think it's because the presence of extra calories relaxes me. The feeling of saying no to chocolate cake because "I don't feel like it" rather than "I don't have enough calories" is like rainbows and unicorns and cotton candy sparkles. It's freeing not to have the urge to eat something just because I can, the opposite of the food hoarding and constant ideation mentality when calories are persistently low.4 -
I had 2 ice creams last night, I didn't cheat or fail anything. I just wanted ice cream so I ate it. It fitted my calories and helped sooth a sore throat.
Don't see eating the things you like as failing, just make them fit your calories.4 -
Depends how many calories you're allotted in a day. Loss for me: 1200. Maintenance for me: 1400. Not a lot of wiggle room. So if I eat ice cream and then cut back on everything else sufficiently to not go past my limit, I'm missing at least one meal entirely and waking up at 3 AM with hunger pangs. No can do.0
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Because you're characterising it as cheating rather than taking ownership of your intake, and you look on deviating from your plan as failure.
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Some really insightful answers here. I strongly agree with the idea of buying a chocolate bar and only eating a few bites, that's just torture. For some reason when I do this I have to eat it all, and then find more! And yes I follow IF and my diet is relatively flexible, but it's like I know this day will come where I have to binge I just have to wait for it.
Thinking back on the idea of someone mentioning that keeping busy helps them, when I think of it it helps me. If I'm just sitting watching TV I will be bored or see adverts. However if I'm busy I will quickly eat my prepped meals and then keep busy!1 -
Do you like using the word cheat as is in "you are breaking some law or rule"? Maybe you are psychologically telling yourself you have been so good for X period of time, you are allowed to do something a little rebellious as a reward?
And failure is only derived at your own perceptions.. You can allow yourself to accept that this is a complete failure (which is it not btw) or you can allow yourself to say hey..." I just wanted to go off the diet for a day" and be ok with that.
You can also not deprive so much during the week and strategize calories to leave enough for a "goodie" everyday that you enjoy.1 -
Why do we cheat and fail?
We don't.
The whole time I was on a mission to lose weight I did not meet my macros and did not "eat well". That was not my goal. I ate whatever I wanted as long as I stayed within my calorie limit. Happily, exercise allowed me to do things like eat pizza and ice cream and all sorts on weekends ... and I stayed within my calorie limit the whole time ... and I lost weight.
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If you say you can't have something because it's "bad" or "cheating" then you'll want it more. So instead of banning certain foods you crave just make room in your numbers for them. It makes reaching your goals easier and less stressful when you eat what you want without limiting yourself. And if something you want has more calories than you have left then look up a macro friendly version of what you crave and make it. Or put if off for tomorrow and log it in the night before to plan your day around it accordingly.1
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If your diet is satisfying, you don't feel the need to 'cheat' as much. I plan my meals around things I crave... I make lower calorie versions of it and make them fit. I avoid bland food. I also never did a 1000 calorie deficit because I would never have stuck to it.1
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for me its still wanting to eat the why i did (as in amount) from when i was a competitive athlete. I still have the apitite minus any of the activity.1
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Jimbob_James99 wrote: »This always happens to me, it's like a big cycle. I'll eat well for about a week or two following my macros well. Then one day I just feel the need to eat bad foods and eat as much as I can!
Why does our mind feel the need to do this? Why do we seem to fail so easily? It annoys me so much
Mine doesn't/I don't. That's because I eat what I want and I enjoy what I'm eating.2 -
Jimbob_James99 wrote: »This always happens to me, it's like a big cycle. I'll eat well for about a week or two following my macros well. Then one day I just feel the need to eat bad foods and eat as much as I can!
Why does our mind feel the need to do this? Why do we seem to fail so easily? It annoys me so much
Unsustainable restrictive diet plan.
Calling foods good and bad instead of just food. Look at nutrients and meet your body's needs.
Calling it a failure if you eat a bunch one day.
I haven't cheated and failed this time because I am not on diet. I eat food I like every single day. Cheating is not necessary. I have a calorie goal not a diet plan. I didn't overhaul my entire way of eating to lose weight just portion sizes. I didn't stop if I went over my calorie goal one day. I've been able to keep going for about 2 years now.
If you can't imagine giving up a food for life then don't give it up to lose weight. Learn to eat appropriate portion sizes. Add foods to your diet instead of taking away. It is good to get enough protein, vegetables and fruits. That doesn't mean you can never eat a cookie.3 -
Excluding the emotional issues that people have where they turn to food as an outlet and comfort with dealing with their problems, most people "cheat and fail" because of the mindset they are approaching weight loss with and attempting a non-sustainable solution. More people should view their weight loss as "didn't go quite as expected, so I tweaked it". It's not a fail, it's part of a process. As we already see in this thread, many different approaches work, just have to find the one that works for you.2
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I second what most have said above. If you want something, save room for it. Don't deny yourself. I have no intention of living the rest of my life without candy, sweets, ice cream, fried food, bread, sugar, etc. so I don't deny myself now. I'm in training, learning how to have a good relationship with food. All food. I always failed at losing weight when I seen the above mentioned things as "bad" or the "enemy" or off-limits. Now, I eat what I want, just in reasonable servings. I try to wait until the end of the day to eat "junk" and see what I have left over for calories but if I do eat if during the day, I just cut back on another meal later to make sure I don't go over. And even if I do go over one day, that doesn't mean that everything is for naught. Tomorrow is a new day. Today won't end your progress if you don't keep overeating so don't let one binge throw you off your whole journey.
tl;dr.....Eat what you want, just fit it in your calories. If you go over calories today, get back to it tomorrow, don't give up everything for one day.1
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