Thermogenics
KarlMarx2
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Hey guys 
can anyone recommend a fat burner they like? Preferably one with <200mg of caffeine per serving.
I have no problem stacking with CLA and Carnitine so those two ingredients aren't necessary.
can anyone recommend a fat burner they like? Preferably one with <200mg of caffeine per serving.I have no problem stacking with CLA and Carnitine so those two ingredients aren't necessary.
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Fat Burner's don't work, I'm afraid.4
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cgreen120288 wrote: »Diet, the best fat burner There are no legal fat burners that work.
true dat.
Since it looks like you want caffeine, why not just take a caffeine pill? You can't get ephedrine other than in nasal decongestants, and all other substances which we know work have been banned and/or are available by prescription only.1 -
By fat burner I don't mean any type of 'magic' diet pill or something. I mean thermogenesis, a product that combines a variety of safe and effective stimulants (usually taken before fasted cardio). They're meant to assist your diet, not replace it.
These type of products only work when you maintain a calorie deficit but definitely 100% do work.0 -
Caffeine by itself at 200mg. That's basically what's in all these other hyped up "fat burners". Thermogenics are over hyped and just costly caffeine proprietary blends.By fat burner I don't mean any type of 'magic' diet pill or something. I mean thermogenesis, a product that combines a variety of safe and effective stimulants (usually taken before fasted cardio). They're meant to assist your diet, not replace it.
These type of products only work when you maintain a calorie deficit but definitely 100% do work.
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Are you thinking 5-Hour or Monster? Or are you thinking of something sold in pill form in little plastic pouches in mom&pop convenience stores?0
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DNP is the only one that works and while effective it most certainly isn't safe for most people0
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They still don't exist. Anything that would make a considerable difference is either illegal or by prescription.1
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There are three posts on the front page right now about fat burners, read them and you will see a hundred responses saying they are woo. They don't work, if they did no one would be fat. The ones that do work are not legal because they are dangerous.
If you want to ingest under 200mg of caffeine, drink a small coffee.1 -
Yeah, stay away from that stuff. None of it is any good.0
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So either my doctor is a quack and stimulants don't increase metabolic rate and supress appetite or you guys are right.
Either way thanks guys, interesting stuff from the MFP community. While I definitely put in work to lose the last 38lbs (journal full of meal logs as testament), I can't help but feel like I wasn't helped out a little bit. I'll have to do some research on my own to see exactly what is going on, if only I knew where to start
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So either my doctor is a quack and stimulants don't increase metabolic rate and supress appetite or you guys are right.
Either way thanks guys, interesting stuff from the MFP community. While I definitely put in work to lose the last 38lbs (journal full of meal logs as testament), I can't help but feel like I wasn't helped out a little bit. I'll have to do some research on my own to see exactly what is going on, if only I knew where to start
You diary is not open so we can't see it to advise, but don't give up.
Are you having a problem with things like belly fat or just all over fat?0 -
Isn't DNP the one that kills people with just a small amount? There was a young woman who took two instead of one and died because her metabolism went through the roof. The said she basically roasted to death.0 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »
Isn't DNP the one that kills people with just a small amount? There was a young woman who took two instead of one and died because her metabolism went through the roof. The said she basically roasted to death.
Yes it is. Basically causes deadly hyperthermia (body temperature rise).1 -
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I use body effects. It has caffeine in it. I use one half scoop every morning. I feel it gives me a little extra energy to get through my morning workouts. Not sure if they really work or not but I like the taste and enjoy the flavour. It's inly 30 cal per scoop and I only use half a scoop 0
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ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »You diary is not open so we can't see it to advise, but don't give up.
Are you having a problem with things like belly fat or just all over fat?
Thank you! I've actually only joined MFP this week, by journal I meant old fashion pen and paper lol. Not having trouble really, it's just that for the past 4 months I've pretty much sworn by the "fat burner trio". I've decided to go to college and the one I'm currently taking makes me feel kind of anxious during my morning class. I was just trying to see if I could try some new products via recommendations.
For now I think I'll stop using it altogether and see if I notice any difference in weight loss, appetite, or energy.
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Cannibal Claw and Inferno work well when stacked together. Just make sure your diet and self-discipline are in order, because you WILL be *kitten* hungry. As Claw uses hormones to screw with the thyroid and jacks up your appetite while Inferno is basiclally just a bunch of stimulants. I have more than once eaten an entire roast chicken, when I intended to only eat about a quarter in a sitting.0
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Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Cannibal Claw and Inferno work well when stacked together. Just make sure your diet and self-discipline are in order, because you WILL be *kitten* hungry. As Claw uses hormones to screw with the thyroid and jacks up your appetite while Inferno is basiclally just a bunch of stimulants. I have more than once eaten an entire roast chicken, when I intended to only eat about a quarter in a sitting.
If the bolded is true, this sounds like a terrible idea.4 -
Gallowmere1984 wrote: »Cannibal Claw and Inferno work well when stacked together. Just make sure your diet and self-discipline are in order, because you WILL be *kitten* hungry. As Claw uses hormones to screw with the thyroid and jacks up your appetite while Inferno is basiclally just a bunch of stimulants. I have more than once eaten an entire roast chicken, when I intended to only eat about a quarter in a sitting.
If the bolded is true, this sounds like a terrible idea.
I didn't say it was a great idea, just that it works. The entire reason that it was found to balance out to a null point is that the increase in hunger follows the increased metabolism, which renders everything in a null state, unless self-control is exercised. Funny that. Metabolism increases, *kitten* get hungry.0 -
So either my doctor is a quack and stimulants don't increase metabolic rate and supress appetite or you guys are right.
I dunno about metabolic rate, but coffee suppressed my appetite (for a while). My girlfriend turned me on to lattes, coffee + milk so there's 12g protein and some fat. That's enough for a bike ride up to about three hours.
I think meth people don't eat. Not suggesting you do meth, but your doctor is probably onto something about stimulants suppressing appetite.
Honestly I wouldn't take any pills. Coffee tastes good if you like it. And diet and exercise do the rest.2 -
ThatUserNameIsAllReadyTaken wrote: »You diary is not open so we can't see it to advise, but don't give up.
Are you having a problem with things like belly fat or just all over fat?
Thank you! I've actually only joined MFP this week, by journal I meant old fashion pen and paper lol. Not having trouble really, it's just that for the past 4 months I've pretty much sworn by the "fat burner trio". I've decided to go to college and the one I'm currently taking makes me feel kind of anxious during my morning class. I was just trying to see if I could try some new products via recommendations.
For now I think I'll stop using it altogether and see if I notice any difference in weight loss, appetite, or energy.
I also keep a pen and paper diet journal! I log in here too but I write it all down. At least if I have a period of not logging in I will still have my diary.1 -
Adding ephedrine to your caffeine is a common "fat burner". Google EC stack.0
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trigden1991 wrote: »Adding ephedrine to your caffeine is a common "fat burner". Google EC stack.
Yes but ephedrine is no longer able to be sold seperately only as part of a compound. For example, nasal decongestants as previously stated.0 -
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rainbowbow wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »Adding ephedrine to your caffeine is a common "fat burner". Google EC stack.
Yes but ephedrine is no longer able to be sold seperately only as part of a compound. For example, nasal decongestants as previously stated.
I am aware of that and that is how many people source it.0
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