Nutritionist says I'm not losing weight because I'm not eating enough GRAINS?!
AliaHaddad_
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So I finally was able to see a nutritionist, and when I say I begged her for help, I mean it. The last four years in high school and college I've been yo-yoing between 20lbs. I would lose weight by restricting my calories to a low amount (1000-1200 cal/day and I'm 5'8") and the pounds would just come back when I tried to eat like a "normal person". My nutritionist just told me that I need to eat at least 5 servings of grains a day (and I'm usually eating 0-1), in order to help me to lose weight. I've been struggling to believe her and can't seem to find the research to back that opinion. I eat a lot of protein, fruits and veggies, and I gain weight VERY easily and have a larger body type. Im also very athletic (weight training and running and other cardio) but I've never needed grains to get energy (although I am tired a lot)... Any advice ????
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Fire your nutritionist, she has no clue what she's talking about.
A 1,000 calorie diet is a crash diet, especially for someone with only about 20 lbs or so to lose. The reason you gained it back is because you crash dieted and then went back to eating "normally," which was likely a surplus of calories. A lot of the weight loss could've been water weight, as well, which usually comes back after returning to "normal" eating, especially if you were restricting carbs.
Put your stats into MFP and tell it you want to lose .5 to 1 lb per week. Eat the calories it tells you to and count them accurately. Do you have a food scale? It could be a good investment and will help you make sure your diary is accurate and help you learn how to better estimate portions for when you transition back to maintenance.15 -
It might help to try it out for a few weeks and see how it goes. Maybe doing low fat and low grains or carbs is causing the low energy. A lot of people will give advice but honestly, you have to find what works for you. And not just in the short term to lose weight. You need to be able to maintain your way of eating in the long term. If you aren't eating grains then you go off the rails and gain all the weight back, it doesn't work. For me, I have to be very careful about processed carbs and sugar because my body freaks out on them. It gives me cravings and I'm ravenous soon after I eat them. I limit them and feel like it works for me long term. Good luck in your journey!!2
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fire her. Anyone who says you "need" 5 servings of grains to lose weight is a fool.7
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Is she a "nutritionist" or a Registered Dietician? Anyone can call themselves a "nutritionist." And RD went through a rigorous academic, training and certification process.10
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Like pretty much everyone else said, get rid of her.
As far as calories go, first figure out what you want to do. Not having a concrete plan is pretty much guaranteeing failure. Once you've figured out what exactly you want to do, you have to put in the proper steps to get there. That means keeping track of everything; if you're not using a scale, and measuring cups you're probably off by a lot more than you think.
As far as being tired all the time, you probably need a lot more sleep. Most people say "oh I can get by on 5-6 hours" in reality, not many can. Most people don't get nearly enough sleep, and it's disastrous to well being. Try to make it a point to get 8 hours every night for a week, and you'll probably see a huge difference in how you feel!4 -
What qualifications does this nutritionist have? In many countries, nutritionist isn't a protected title. Go to a registered Dietitian instead.2
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AliaHaddad_ wrote: »So I finally was able to see a nutritionist, and when I say I begged her for help, I mean it. The last four years in high school and college I've been yo-yoing between 20lbs. I would lose weight by restricting my calories to a low amount (1000-1200 cal/day and I'm 5'8") and the pounds would just come back when I tried to eat like a "normal person". My nutritionist just told me that I need to eat at least 5 servings of grains a day (and I'm usually eating 0-1), in order to help me to lose weight. I've been struggling to believe her and can't seem to find the research to back that opinion. I eat a lot of protein, fruits and veggies, and I gain weight VERY easily and have a larger body type. Im also very athletic (weight training and running and other cardio) but I've never needed grains to get energy (although I am tired a lot)... Any advice ????
I agree with others who said fire the nutritionist. I'm an ordinary schmuck who eats almost no grains and I'm losing weight.
You lose weight because of calories, not the type of food.
You might be eating more than you think, or you are eating stuff with a lot of sodium that makes you retain water, or if you exercise a lot you might be retaining water to heal your muscles. Your calorie count looks like you aren't eating enough.0 -
Yeah, no.0
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The nutritionist is not giving you a good weight loss diet plan if she doesn't emphasize calories first and foremost. You do not need to eat 5 servings of grains to lose weight. It would not hurt your weight loss one bit to do so if the food fits your calorie goal though.
Eat the right number of calories for your height and activity level and you will lose weight. My Fitness Pal will tell you for free how many calories to eat. If you are active you should be eating much more than the minimum. 1200 is the minimum reccomended for women, 1500 for men. If you exercise beyond your regular activity level- log it and eat a portion of those calories too.
If you are 20 lbs or less overweight choose .5-1 lb a week. Not 2+ lbs per week.
Healthy sustainable loss takes time. You can eat pretty normally just appropriate portion sizes for your goal. Log everything you consume as accurately as you can. A food scale is helpful to improving your accuracy. Make sure the entries from the database you choose are correct.
Overly restricting foods and going on a very low calorie diet do not lead to sustainable weight loss.3 -
Your nutritionist is broken. Please get a newer and more up-to-date model.10
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She is following the FDA pyramid thing probably, which I don't buy into personlly. I however think grains DO have a role in weight loss, if you are eating quinoa, brown rice, millet, and other higher protein and filling grains. Not bread. Pair healthy grains with lots of veggies and small amount of beans (or meat if you eat meat) and you will be full and stay full. And probably you'll eat what is considered 2 servings for dinner (a cup of grains is prob 2 servings). I don't think you have to push for 5 but also think hearty grains do help you feel full, they have vitamins etc. and can be helpful in losing weight and not feeling deprived.5
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OP, you probably keep regaining the 20 lbs because you are over-restricting to lose the weight fast in the first place, and you aren't learning how to eat for the long term. You need to find a way to eat where you feel satiated but are eating the right calories. Set your goal to one half lb or 1 lb per week, start logging your food, and keep playing around with the numbers and what you're eating until you find the sweet spot for you. Be patient and take your time to really figure it out, through trial and error. If eating more grains makes it easier for you it might work, but there is nothing magical about eating grains, or fat, or superfoods, or anything else. Best of luck!5
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I agree with others - don't listen to the nutritionist.
How much do you currently weigh, and how much do you want to weigh?
And like others said - slow and steady wins the race. If you want to lose the weight and lose it for good you have to find a way to eat that will take the weight off and not be a struggle when you have to learn to maintain.0 -
I wonder how she came up with that?
I think I last ate some grains in a small piece of cake in January. Before that it was probably spring of 2015. I still lost my weight, and easier than when I was eating grains (but I have insulin resistance and am carb sensitive).1 -
Your nutritionist may subscribe to the more fibre to lose fat theory. I'm linking one article here for reference that reports on a medical study of that precise theory. I have no expertise on the subject or experience to share anecdotally, but I think I might be willing to try out the suggestion to see how it works on my body and energy level - because I like grains and don't want to give them up for life.0
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We are the same height
What do you weigh? What's your goal?
Restricting to very low calories is going to make you crash and burn and yo yo ...we can fix that easily by eating appropriately and fueling your body
You shouldn't be tired it's a sign of inappropriate lifestyle (providing no medical issues ..I'm assuming clean bill of health, no anemia etc)
Want help? There's lots here
Ps nutritionist derp has been covered adequately let's move on to helping you fix this2 -
Please see a different nutritionist for a 2nd opinion.
I saw one a few years ago and have felt better following the recommendations. Mine told me about metobolic type testing. Everyone is either protein type, carb type, or mixed. That helps determine how your macros should be split to feel your best...thats it. There was no mention of specific number of servings because the macros are split as a percentage of total calories and total cals is based on age, gender, activity, weight. The number of cals is what determines weight loss or gain.
I should mention I did not see her with weight loss as the focus. I had just been diagnosed with a wheat allergy and hashimoto so I saw a nutritionist to learn about getting balanced nutrition with dietary restrictions.1 -
Please see a different nutritionist for a 2nd opinion.
I saw one a few years ago and have felt better following the recommendations. Mine told me about metobolic type testing. Everyone is either protein type, carb type, or mixed. That helps determine how your macros should be split to feel your best...thats it. There was no mention of specific number of servings because the macros are split as a percentage of total calories and total cals is based on age, gender, activity, weight. The number of cals is what determines weight loss or gain.
I should mention I did not see her with weight loss as the focus. I had just been diagnosed with a wheat allergy and hashimoto so I saw a nutritionist to learn about getting balanced nutrition with dietary restrictions.
Glad you're feeling better, but the "metabolic type testing" is hooey of the highest order.2 -
snickerscharlie wrote: »Please see a different nutritionist for a 2nd opinion.
I saw one a few years ago and have felt better following the recommendations. Mine told me about metobolic type testing. Everyone is either protein type, carb type, or mixed. That helps determine how your macros should be split to feel your best...thats it. There was no mention of specific number of servings because the macros are split as a percentage of total calories and total cals is based on age, gender, activity, weight. The number of cals is what determines weight loss or gain.
I should mention I did not see her with weight loss as the focus. I had just been diagnosed with a wheat allergy and hashimoto so I saw a nutritionist to learn about getting balanced nutrition with dietary restrictions.
Glad you're feeling better, but the "metabolic type testing" is hooey of the highest order.
Agree to disagree. I think there is a lot of truth to the fact that different people are healthier with different macro splits. Thats really all it is, a way of finding your macro break down.1 -
Yes, the Food Guide Pyramid and Myplate.gov are both outdated, but many programs still teach them.1
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NewGemini130 wrote: »She is following the FDA pyramid thing probably, which I don't buy into personlly. I however think grains DO have a role in weight loss, if you are eating quinoa, brown rice, millet, and other higher protein and filling grains. Not bread. Pair healthy grains with lots of veggies and small amount of beans (or meat if you eat meat) and you will be full and stay full. And probably you'll eat what is considered 2 servings for dinner (a cup of grains is prob 2 servings). I don't think you have to push for 5 but also think hearty grains do help you feel full, they have vitamins etc. and can be helpful in losing weight and not feeling deprived.
Have a role? sure. Needed to make weight loss happen? No.
Agreed, that a good hearty whole grain can make compliance easier, sure.
I also think it's relevant to consider WHO came up with the pyramid. not FDA but USDA.4 -
Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »NewGemini130 wrote: »She is following the FDA pyramid thing probably, which I don't buy into personlly. I however think grains DO have a role in weight loss, if you are eating quinoa, brown rice, millet, and other higher protein and filling grains. Not bread. Pair healthy grains with lots of veggies and small amount of beans (or meat if you eat meat) and you will be full and stay full. And probably you'll eat what is considered 2 servings for dinner (a cup of grains is prob 2 servings). I don't think you have to push for 5 but also think hearty grains do help you feel full, they have vitamins etc. and can be helpful in losing weight and not feeling deprived.
Have a role? sure. Needed to make weight loss happen? No.
Agreed, that a good hearty whole grain can make compliance easier, sure.
I also think it's relevant to consider WHO came up with the pyramid. not FDA but USDA.
Yeah, people seem not to notice how strange is that the Department of Agriculture tells you what to eat (same in Italy)
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AliaHaddad_ wrote: »So I finally was able to see a nutritionist, and when I say I begged her for help, I mean it. The last four years in high school and college I've been yo-yoing between 20lbs. I would lose weight by restricting my calories to a low amount (1000-1200 cal/day and I'm 5'8") and the pounds would just come back when I tried to eat like a "normal person". My nutritionist just told me that I need to eat at least 5 servings of grains a day (and I'm usually eating 0-1), in order to help me to lose weight. I've been struggling to believe her and can't seem to find the research to back that opinion. I eat a lot of protein, fruits and veggies, and I gain weight VERY easily and have a larger body type. Im also very athletic (weight training and running and other cardio) but I've never needed grains to get energy (although I am tired a lot)... Any advice ????
Fire the nutritionist, simply eat at a calorie defict and you will lose weight.1 -
Gianfranco_R wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »NewGemini130 wrote: »She is following the FDA pyramid thing probably, which I don't buy into personlly. I however think grains DO have a role in weight loss, if you are eating quinoa, brown rice, millet, and other higher protein and filling grains. Not bread. Pair healthy grains with lots of veggies and small amount of beans (or meat if you eat meat) and you will be full and stay full. And probably you'll eat what is considered 2 servings for dinner (a cup of grains is prob 2 servings). I don't think you have to push for 5 but also think hearty grains do help you feel full, they have vitamins etc. and can be helpful in losing weight and not feeling deprived.
Have a role? sure. Needed to make weight loss happen? No.
Agreed, that a good hearty whole grain can make compliance easier, sure.
I also think it's relevant to consider WHO came up with the pyramid. not FDA but USDA.
Yeah, people seem not to notice how strange is that the Department of Agriculture tells you what to eat (same in Italy)
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Gianfranco_R wrote: »Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »NewGemini130 wrote: »She is following the FDA pyramid thing probably, which I don't buy into personlly. I however think grains DO have a role in weight loss, if you are eating quinoa, brown rice, millet, and other higher protein and filling grains. Not bread. Pair healthy grains with lots of veggies and small amount of beans (or meat if you eat meat) and you will be full and stay full. And probably you'll eat what is considered 2 servings for dinner (a cup of grains is prob 2 servings). I don't think you have to push for 5 but also think hearty grains do help you feel full, they have vitamins etc. and can be helpful in losing weight and not feeling deprived.
Have a role? sure. Needed to make weight loss happen? No.
Agreed, that a good hearty whole grain can make compliance easier, sure.
I also think it's relevant to consider WHO came up with the pyramid. not FDA but USDA.
Yeah, people seem not to notice how strange is that the Department of Agriculture tells you what to eat (same in Italy)
LOL Yes! A balanced diet according to USDA.0 -
Is why if it has "government" on it I don't pay attention to it. For goodness sake they can't balance their own checkbook. How they suppose to balance *my* diet. *shakes head*
Still can't figure out this nutritionist thing. Think I'm with everyone else. Put her on the unemployment line.0 -
Since everyone else has already covered how awful your nutritionist is, I'd like to address your lack of energy.
If you're highly active, it's possible that your deficit is too aggressive. I can really understand wanting to shed your weight as quickly as possible, but that isn't the smartest way to go about it if you're energy levels are plummeting. It's best to find a balance of calorie intake and activity levels that keeps you feeling energetic throughout the day and learning new habits with food in order to make lasting changes.0 -
Seems like maintenance is your problem, not losing?
You can't go back to "normal" eating because you end up 20 pounds higher than you want to be. For some people, by the time they get near to goal weight the difference between "diet" and "maintenance" calories can be a handful of nuts a day.
One thing that some people do is to reverse diet once they get to goal weight, adding maybe 100 calories a day the first week, then another 100 the next week, etc. until they find a stable calorie and weight level (using a weight trending app to smooth out temporary fluctuations). This will give you the maximum calories you can eat and still maintain at your desired level.2 -
I don't believe there is one way of eating that would fit everyone. The Healthy Eating Plate (a refinement of the MyPlate concept https://hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/healthy-eating-plate/) is a good place to start for many people - half of the plate fruit/veg, 1/4 whole grains, and 1/4 protein. For many, this would be a major step for the better. That being said, all you really need to do to lose weight is to eat less than you burn.2
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