Parental Advice?
CBKMom
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I have been struggling this past week due to my worry over choices that my children (grown 21-26) are making.
What do you all think about parents giving their grown kids advice? I have one child who is dabbling in drugs with 2 DUIs and is dating a felon 20 years older than her and another son who has a super controlling wife who is running them into debt and awful credit.
I gave them each some advice. I did not TELL them what to do, just that they choice that they were making were leading them down a path that is going to turn out poorly. I am now in the lead for crappy Mom of the year. One of them has gotten other family members to bad mouth me on FB and other avenues.
Thoughts? Thanks!
What do you all think about parents giving their grown kids advice? I have one child who is dabbling in drugs with 2 DUIs and is dating a felon 20 years older than her and another son who has a super controlling wife who is running them into debt and awful credit.
I gave them each some advice. I did not TELL them what to do, just that they choice that they were making were leading them down a path that is going to turn out poorly. I am now in the lead for crappy Mom of the year. One of them has gotten other family members to bad mouth me on FB and other avenues.
Thoughts? Thanks!
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I fully support what you have done. You're right, you can't tell them what to do but you can (and should) as their parent, give them your advice. Tell them that you think what they are doing is wrong but you will always love them. Even grown kids want to hear that they are loved.
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I think you did the right thing.0
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That's horrible! I'm so sorry! I have 3 very young kids so I can't really offer experienced advice. Definitely keep showing them love though. If you believe in God, pray hard and seek some Godly counsel. Find a local pastor to pray with. Good luck!0
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My oldest is 18 and even now it's hard that I can't tell her what to do!!
I have an older brother who hasn't made good decisions. The biggest problem, however, is that both of my parents enable his bad choices and end up hurting him rather than helping them like they think they are doing. They constantly bail him out of trouble. For example, my dad has paid his child supprort for YEARS instead of making him pay it or go to jail. Good grief, make the kid keep a job (so he can pay himself) or go to court to get a lower payment!!! Anything but paying it for him! He does nothing but cause them grief and they continue to chip out money to him. My dad has gone into terrible debt to keep giving him money cuz he has none - of course - he continues to quit every job he has because "the boss was a jerk." Anyway - I could go on, but I won't.
Anyway, from my limited experience, the best you can probably do is to just not enable them. Be there for them if they ask for help and offer suggestions when it seems they need it (who cares if they complain about you). But don't enable them. So if the son with the controlling wife comes complaining that he needs help with bills - give him advice - not money.
I hope I can do the same for my kids - I have an awefully big heart though and it's already tough with my 18 year old!!
I hope someone has better advice for you! Good luck!0 -
I think you absolutely should have voiced your concerns regarding drugs/and or criminal issues. I'd stay out of your son's financial situtation though...I can't think of anything that would make me cut my mom off faster than badmouthing my husband!0
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Sounds like sound advice to me. Parenting really blows sometimes. I did the best I could with what I had at the time, and now I hope they were at least paying a little attention to what I said and did. Good luck and try not to worry too much. They are grown people and may have to learn some of life's harder lessons the hard way. I did.0
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I have the same issues with my adult children (ages, 27 and 26). No mom can stand by and watch her children self-destruct. I have often said things to my children that they probably did not want to hear but needed to be said. I will not feel bad for it or do a guilt trip over loving my children and wanting the best for them.0
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Unfortunately, we all have to learn on our own. Otherwise, we'd never grow as humans. You did right by giving them advice. I've learned, though, to only offer advice when it's asked for (4 grown step-kids). Otherwise, it's considered medling (by the other party).
Years from now, they'll look back and say "you were right" - but until they've grown from the experience, they won't understand what you are trying to warn them of.
I'm most concerned about family members taking their side and bad-mouthing you on FB. I think I'd be deleting those family members ASAP.0 -
People never want to hear that their own choices are causing bad things to happen to them, wether it's from their mom or otherwise. But at least you said your peace and can go about your life knowing that you attempted to help. I mean, what kind of mom just lets their child get hit by a bus and never tries to warn them of impending doom?
You're kids will get over it and years from now realize that you're the best0 -
I'm not a parent, so you're welcome to throw this advice in the trash, but as a young adult, advice from my parents is critical for me. I don't always take it (they absolutely hated my husband when we started dating, and within a year they adored him as a part of our family), but I listen. My in-laws however, always come off to my husband as I as demanding and preachy (it sounds biased, and it probably is a little, but when my husband and I talk he feels the same way). They often come at us with unsolicited general advice about our lifestyle or attitudes ("You need to grow up" or "You live life too much in the now, why can't you be more like me?" <-- actual pieces of "advice" they gave us last year, LOL. I think they refer to my husband and I not having children? I'm not sure, they were sort of vague.)
I think your attitude going into it helps a lot - you don't WANT to tell them what to do. Often, my mom and I will have coffee and talk for hours when I visit home. This is when I'll bring up any issues, and she usually gives me advice in the form of "I'd probably do.. x y z if it were me" or something that is almost never "You should x y z." It's a subtle difference, but makes a huge impact. When the issue isn't brought to her, she'll usually get advice from my brother (if it's an issue she needs to bring up with me), or vice versa. I give her a lot of guidance on bringing up delicate issues with my brother, who has had his share of problems related to alcohol and reckless behavior. In cases where there is immediate danger (like drugs and DUI's), bringing up the topic with genuine and gentle concern ("I've been worried about what I've heard about x y z, and I was hoping we could talk about it together. I love you and I want to help you be safe if I can." etc, etc.) As for the other child, with the wife issue, you have to be cautious because that's a can of worms. Bringing up your dislike for his wife's behavior draws a clear line in the sand, whether you mean to our not, and as a psychologist, I can tell you that the implications of that situation are not good. He (and probably she) will get pissed, and if he has to choose a side, there's at least a 50% chance he'll alienate you to please her. If they have financial trouble, maybe just bring it up like the other concern ("I've heard you're having money troubles. Can I do anything to help you? Have you thought to try x y z? It really worked well for me in a similar situation." I would avoid AT ALL COSTS bringing blame into the situation, even if the wife is the main offender. They are married, and joint finances are a joint problem.
Like I said, I'm not parent, but I am a psychologist. I hope that helps you. I'll send good thoughts your way :-)
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Bee0 -
You are doing what a mother does. You are mothering your children. Keep in mind ... as hard as it is for a mother to do .... to undertsand that you have done your part and the rest is outside of your control. That includes others (family and not family) that are willing to setp out on a limb and talk trash with out knowing the full story. You do what you feel is best and shake off the rest. *hugs* :flowerforyou:0
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You don't stop being a Mom the second they turn 18. : wink:
A crappy mom is one who wouldn't say anything. A great mom is one who loves her kids enough to risk them hating her for telling them the truth.0 -
My oldest boys are getting are at the end of high school and I wonder how I will handle not being able to have some "say" in what they're doing. I know its hard, but I think you have said what you thought you needed and now you should probably drop it.
My parents are always in what their kids are doing, and they are miserable with all the choices of their kids and grandkids. They have had terrible relationships with all of us at one time or another. There can be a lot of drama. My in-laws on the other hand leave things alone and I honestly feel they are much happier with their own lives because they have let go of the idea of still having some say in what their kids are doing. They are always willing to share their ideas when we ask, but for the most part keep their opinons to themselves.
So your kids are getting older, you just need to focus on the things in your life and let them figure it out. At least, that is what I am going to try to do. Easier said than done, I am sure. lol0 -
Wow, so do they think there's a switch in your brain that can turn off the Mom-worry? That's utterly ridiculous!
I think a lot of folks have already said what came to mind when I read your post, but especially, I think, Bee's advice seems to be pretty apt. Try not to let your opinion of your daughter-in-law come across as clearly as it does in your post, though, because your son will just blow off your comments as being due to your dislike of her and not to any real concern.
Good luck, and keep being the awesome mom your instinct tells you to be!0 -
They are both adults and you've offered them your wisdom. Let them make their own mistakes. Just let them know that if they need advice in the future, you would be more than happy to offer it but only if they ask for it. You can't rescue your children for the rest of their lives - you would be doing them no favors. They may have to go through hell do do it, but they'll figure it out eventually.0
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Hang in there, really one day it will dawn on them and they will be calling you telling you that you were right and they wish they would have listened, as hard as it is sometimes people have to learn from their own mistakes, you did the best you could. As for the family members.........are they on drugs too? You can't pick your family but you can disown them and be done with them on FB. I have a lot of friends with ****ty families, but they have made a great family of friends.0
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I have been struggling this past week due to my worry over choices that my children (grown 21-26) are making.
What do you all think about parents giving their grown kids advice? I have one child who is dabbling in drugs with 2 DUIs and is dating a felon 20 years older than her and another son who has a super controlling wife who is running them into debt and awful credit.
I gave them each some advice. I did not TELL them what to do, just that they choice that they were making were leading them down a path that is going to turn out poorly. I am now in the lead for crappy Mom of the year. One of them has gotten other family members to bad mouth me on FB and other avenues.
Thoughts? Thanks!
You sound like a loving caring Mom to me!!
I often wish I still had mine , one can never be too old to have a Mothers Love & Concern!0 -
Have you considered attending counseling to help you find better ways to communicate with your adult children?
I think therapy would help especially if things get worse with your adult children (rather than better).
As for the family members and such that are bad mouthing you on FB, delete them and if they call to ask you "why" tell them to pound sand. LOL
Seriously, that is why I don't have a FB because my family is already bad about gossiping - I definitely don't need that crap! In fact my family had some FB drama recently and I found out some secrets and smack talking - yea I made it clear I'm not interested in that BS and they can step off!0 -
Thanks for all the input.
In retrospect, I did not think what I said was enough to warrent the responses that I got (all said behind my back).
For the child struggling with drugs and such, I suggested she take more time for herself and seek some real therapy to help her find ways to deal with the pain that she is using pot to soothe. I reassured her that I loved her and that I was helping due to it hurting me to see her hurting so.
For the child with money, she was complaining about things being turned off (phone, internet. power) and I offered to help set up a budget and get them on the right track but that frivolous spending would have to be put on the back burner.
I really tried to think about how what I would say would be perceived, but even then, I was in the wrong. My son was at least supportive as he is battling with the same issues with her.
Anyway, thank you all for at least letting me know that for the most part, a Mom is always a Mom and we give advice due to our love and care.
I am sure it will all work out in the end, I just need to pray and be patient.
Thanks!!0
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