Are veggies a Free food?

I am counting my calories, works best for me. I did Jenny Craig a few years back and veggies of all kind were a free food, eat as many as you want. I know I am kind of answering my own question but want to be sure. Doing 1200 to start off. When I enter my foods, veggies, it adds up the calorie count. So should I worry about those taking away my calories or should I still look at them as FREE foods. Thanks.
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  • queenliz99
    queenliz99 Posts: 15,317 Member
    Count them.
  • sympha01
    sympha01 Posts: 942 Member
    Foods with calories have ... calories. If you are relying on calorie counting for weight loss, there are no free calories. Vegetables are good for you -- eat them, but log them. Truly, it's hard to make them add up to much trouble in your plan, though some starchy ones are higher in calories than leafy or watery ones. I'm especially careful with portioning potatoes, corn, and peas (or beans) for example.

    If eating vegetables is making it hard to stick to your calorie goal, honestly I'd advise raising your calorie goal to account for it. Because a 1200 cal a day diet is very much on the low side. I know plenty of women who successfully lost weight on 1400-1600 cal a day diets. I lost lots of weight in my 40s on an 1850 cal a day diet (I'm very active, though). It took longer than a low cal diet but it was much easier to stick to happily, and didn't tempt me to do dumb things like try to make room for a delicious cookie by skipping vegetables. Furthermore taking a long time with a more sustainable diet plan did way more for me to build long-term healthy eating habits that have made maintaining nearly a breeze.
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  • MelanieCN77
    MelanieCN77 Posts: 4,047 Member
    WW and similar plans with free fruit and veg are simplified to guide people who don't want to count calories to make better choices, that's all. Veg definitely isn't free. Their points were not a straight up and down reflection of calorie content, not at all.
  • MrsKila
    MrsKila Posts: 320 Member
    Log them
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    edited October 2016
    Eat veggies for health, but I wouldn't recommend them for hunger....they have very low saiety for most people. They aren't free but you'd be hard pressed to eat so many as y9 amount to a lot of calories. Some are more calories than others though.
  • MommyL2015
    MommyL2015 Posts: 1,411 Member
    I make a stir-fry that, aside from about 20 calories of Teriyaki sauce and 50 calories of oil, has about 200 calories. It's a huge plate and it's all vegetables, but they still have calories that add up in volume.
  • CALS0CCERBEAR87
    CALS0CCERBEAR87 Posts: 38 Member
    edited October 2016
    Aaron_K123 wrote: »
    Eat veggies for health, but I wouldn't recommend them for hunger....they have very low saiety for most people. They aren't free but you'd be hard pressed to eat so many as y9 amount to a lot of calories. Some are more calories than others though.

    agreed. like brocc is most filling with something like grilled chicken breast and whole grain brown rice...and carrot sticks with hummus or guac

    red beets are pretty filling when boiled and topped w/evvo+balsamic
  • Lynzdee18
    Lynzdee18 Posts: 500 Member
    Seriously? No. log them. Sorry. Nothing's free!
  • Seffell
    Seffell Posts: 2,244 Member
    What would all herbivore animals live off if they were free? Seriously?
  • Aaron_K123
    Aaron_K123 Posts: 7,122 Member
    edited October 2016
    gebeziseva wrote: »
    What would all herbivore animals live off if they were free? Seriously?

    Well to be fair herbavoires have special digestive enzymes in their guts that allow them to digest cellulose and derive nutrition from it. The reason we don't get that many calories out of vegetables is because for the most part we can't digest them. Hence the fiber. I don't know the numbers but I'm guessing if an herbivore ate a piece of celery they'd get a lot more out of it calorically than we do.
  • Vailara
    Vailara Posts: 2,469 Member
    I think it depends how you want to do it. If 1200 already gives you a good deficit, then you may well have capacity to eat plenty of vegetables, say 300 calories a day worth, and still have a decent deficit. Obviously, it won't be accurate and you wouldn't lose weight at the rate expected. But I think the point of vegetables being free (on some commercial diets) is to encourage you to eat more, which is generaly a good thing! Just be aware that some vegetables (avocado, potato, etc) are quite calorific. Good luck!
  • paperpudding
    paperpudding Posts: 9,285 Member
    Aaron_K123 wrote: »
    Eat veggies for health, but I wouldn't recommend them for hunger....they have very low saiety for most people. They aren't free but you'd be hard pressed to eat so many as y9 amount to a lot of calories. Some are more calories than others though.

    I find potatoes quite filling, even just on their own. Eg leftover roast potatoes ( I use almost no oil)

    Admittedly potatoes are not low calorie and I wouldn't suggest not logging them.

  • LyiannaTameka
    LyiannaTameka Posts: 34 Member
    Well, this is myfitnesspal. To accurately count calories, you have log to EVERYTHING.

    Good luck ❤️.
  • Noreenmarie1234
    Noreenmarie1234 Posts: 7,492 Member
    No you have to count them! I have eaten anywhere from 300-500 calories in veg alone.
  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 18,250 Member
    Programs like Jenny Craig and Weight Watchers which have 'free' vegetables will be adjusting for them in the allocation they give you (ie ProPoints for WW). They aren't free, they've just factored them in for you to encourage you to reach for veggies rather than something else. So your ProPoints allocation for WW might equal 1200 calories when MFP gives you 1400 because WW factors in that you will eat around 200 cals of veg a day.
  • BeGrandLike
    BeGrandLike Posts: 184 Member
    Ha, I wish veggies were 'free'! Especially since I eat plant-based, so if veg were free I'd be able to stuff my face all day long. Unfortunately that isn't the case :(

    Lots of veg are pretty low in calories though. But it's always good to eat lots of 'em! So I'd recommend making 'em a big part of your diet (cause it means you can eat tons) but log 'em. I'm on 1300 net per day and I can easily make up 300 cals or more of that with veg. Especially if you've a low allowance, it can make up a significant part of how much you're eating :)