Personal trainer???

Ok, I go to a gym and take kettlebell, spin are my two favorites. But the owner of the gym says to go to the next level I need to try muscle confusion and lift heavy or circuit train heavy.

What are other people's opinion. I need to lose 40 more lbs to be at the top of my normal bmi range.

I'm 174 at 5'3" would like to get to 130ish

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  • watts6151
    watts6151 Posts: 905 Member
    edited October 2016
    Tell that to rich piana
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    I actually think he has good exercise advice except for the "muscle confusion" thing. But I wouldn't let that get in the way of my workouts & weight loss.
  • watts6151
    watts6151 Posts: 905 Member
    Sued0nim wrote: »
    watts6151 wrote: »
    Tell that to rich piana

    Had to look him up, in the 2 mins I could spare I thought

    Why do you think the OP would benefit from a life on steroids and 8 hour workouts ?

    And

    Just cos someone is big doesn't mean what they speak is not absolute bollocks

    It's called sarcasm.
    Confusing the muscle is one of his
    Catch phrases
  • KetoTeacher
    KetoTeacher Posts: 163 Member
    Next level. I would like to continue to tone and gain lean muscle while losing weight. I realize that I can't gain muscle and lose weight so lose weight first.

    This is a small town and the gym owner is also a personal trainer. I already go to the gym so he has nothing else to gain from me. His opinions and training cost me nothing extra.

    I thought that I had read that muscle confusion was not legit so I was just checking other opinions.
  • nowine4me
    nowine4me Posts: 3,985 Member
    You don't need a personal Trainer to lift weights, there are plenty of programs out there you can do at the gym on your own (Stronglifts 5x5) BUT, if training is free with your membership, why not take advantage -- or at least have him get you started.
  • courtneyfabulous
    courtneyfabulous Posts: 1,863 Member
    You just need to be in a calorie deficit- not work out harder. Working out is great but if you aren't eating in a calorie deficit you won't lose any weight no matter how much or what type of exercise you do.

    Use myfitnesspal as it is intended & watch the weight come off easily.
  • Sued0nim
    Sued0nim Posts: 17,456 Member
    watts6151 wrote: »
    Sued0nim wrote: »
    watts6151 wrote: »
    Tell that to rich piana

    Had to look him up, in the 2 mins I could spare I thought

    Why do you think the OP would benefit from a life on steroids and 8 hour workouts ?

    And

    Just cos someone is big doesn't mean what they speak is not absolute bollocks

    It's called sarcasm.
    Confusing the muscle is one of his
    Catch phrases

    Did not know that. Sarcasm wasn't obvious in plain text
    Next level. I would like to continue to tone and gain lean muscle while losing weight. I realize that I can't gain muscle and lose weight so lose weight first.

    This is a small town and the gym owner is also a personal trainer. I already go to the gym so he has nothing else to gain from me. His opinions and training cost me nothing extra.

    I thought that I had read that muscle confusion was not legit so I was just checking other opinions.

    So free training? I'd be tempted if he knows how to teach good form
  • jdhcm2006
    jdhcm2006 Posts: 2,254 Member
    If it's free then why not take him up on it. Tell him you want to lift heavy, no machines, and see what he can teach you.

    I'm working with a trainer now to work on form for lifting and once I feel like I've got things under control, I'm going to discontinue the service. I like her b/c she teaches you to not be dependent on her and gives advice on how to build your own program while helping me keep my form in check. She also sends notes after every workout so that I have it handy when I go in to work on my own.

    Try it out, see what he can teach you, and then do your own thing. I won't lie, I'm skeptical that it's actually free. Every place that I've been to charges for PT sessions. He might just be offering you a few free sessions. Unless he's told you explicitly that PT is absolutely and always free, I'd be wary of his motivations.
  • trigden1991
    trigden1991 Posts: 4,658 Member
    Sued0nim wrote: »
    watts6151 wrote: »
    Tell that to rich piana

    Had to look him up, in the 2 mins I could spare I thought

    Why do you think the OP would benefit from a life on steroids and 8 hour workouts ?

    And

    Just cos someone is big doesn't mean what they speak is not absolute bollocks

    I'm fairly certain you missed the huge amounts of sarcasm.

    Anyway Rich Piana is the greatest vegan natural bodybuilder there has ever been.
  • KetoTeacher
    KetoTeacher Posts: 163 Member
    Sued0nim wrote: »
    watts6151 wrote: »
    Sued0nim wrote: »
    watts6151 wrote: »
    Tell that to rich piana

    Had to look him up, in the 2 mins I could spare I thought

    Why do you think the OP would benefit from a life on steroids and 8 hour workouts ?

    And

    Just cos someone is big doesn't mean what they speak is not absolute bollocks

    It's called sarcasm.
    Confusing the muscle is one of his
    Catch phrases

    Did not know that. Sarcasm wasn't obvious in plain text
    Next level. I would like to continue to tone and gain lean muscle while losing weight. I realize that I can't gain muscle and lose weight so lose weight first.

    This is a small town and the gym owner is also a personal trainer. I already go to the gym so he has nothing else to gain from me. His opinions and training cost me nothing extra.

    I thought that I had read that muscle confusion was not legit so I was just checking other opinions.

    So free training? I'd be tempted if he knows how to teach good form

    His main focus is form.
  • KetoTeacher
    KetoTeacher Posts: 163 Member
    jdhcm2006 wrote: »
    If it's free then why not take him up on it. Tell him you want to lift heavy, no machines, and see what he can teach you.

    I'm working with a trainer now to work on form for lifting and once I feel like I've got things under control, I'm going to discontinue the service. I like her b/c she teaches you to not be dependent on her and gives advice on how to build your own program while helping me keep my form in check. She also sends notes after every workout so that I have it handy when I go in to work on my own.

    Try it out, see what he can teach you, and then do your own thing. I won't lie, I'm skeptical that it's actually free. Every place that I've been to charges for PT sessions. He might just be offering you a few free sessions. Unless he's told you explicitly that PT is absolutely and always free, I'd be wary of his motivations.

    It may just be a few PT sessions. Not sure but he said it was part of the 24/7 membership, so I'm set up an appt.
  • dolliesdaughter
    dolliesdaughter Posts: 544 Member
    Of course he would say that you need a personal trainer. I am surprised he isn't trying to sell some "magic powder" as well. The say way that a salon owner will always tell you that you need a "special treatment".
  • ericwhitt
    ericwhitt Posts: 87 Member
    There is nothing wrong with grabbing a PT if you're new to lifting and want some coaching on your form. Sometimes the immediate feedback while you do a lift with a coach watching will save you from injury down the road. I don't believe most people really need a reoccurring schedule with a PT, but I definitely believe everyone can use either a PT or a well trained friend for the initial entry into the weight lifting world.
  • melvinrram
    melvinrram Posts: 5 Member
    I've had a PT for a couple months and here are a few thoughts:

    1) PT can help you correct your form much quicker because they can see you do it. If you have a buddy who is really knowledgeable about lifting, a PT isn't necessary but if you're on your own, I would recommend it.

    2) PT can identify what smaller muscles need to get strengthened in order to improve form on the compound lifts.

    3) PT can keep you honest on your schedule. I've found that I'm 99% likely to show up if I have a session scheduled with my PT.

    4) PT can be expensive so look at it as more than just PT. You're paying for training as well as education. The education part is important because at some point, you'll need to stop and you don't want to revert doing things in a *kitten* way. Take the time to think about what they are saying so it can become part of your long term fitness toolset.
  • Trish1c
    Trish1c Posts: 549 Member
    If what he's recommending is included in what you already pay, take him up on it. The minute he wants you to lose weight -- starting with your wallet -- look elsewhere for advice.

    Try You tube for some videos about form etc.
  • tmoneyag99
    tmoneyag99 Posts: 480 Member
    weight lifting is a wonderful activity for women. It helps build bone density and muscle. Muscle mass is a key driver in resting calorie burn. The more of it you have the more calories you burn per hour while sitting on your rear.

    That being said, you absolutely don't need a personal trainer to lift weights unless you literally have no clue what you are doing. If you get a personal trainer you have to tell them "I want to be able to lift weights on my own when we are done" Otherwise they will put you in some B*ll$hit program that will draw out your strength training.

    @melvinrram was precisely right about the benefits of a PT but you must make sure that you know what *your* goals are going in. Don't let a PT try to horn swaggle you or underestimate what you can do. The slower your progress the more sessions you get the more gaurenteed money they get.

    I have had some good trainers and I have had some complete $H!% trainers. If you are having to tell your trainer how to do their job, end the relationship asap.
  • KetoTeacher
    KetoTeacher Posts: 163 Member
    Thanks for some well structured advice. And yes I'm clueless so thanks