Sometimes, I have a hard time relating...
bunchesonothing
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Sometimes, I have a hard time relating to some of the people on this site. Not everyone. But sometimes, I think some of us are such health-o-philes that we create issues for ourselves, or chalk things up to things that don't relate. I know everyone's different, but... I just have a hard time shaking this thought. And if the thought is true, it makes it harder for me to take stuff seriously. I want to, but...
Really, I would like to eat better. I would like to cut down on fast food. I've decreased my soda consumption considerably. I'm working on it. But I know I will never have a purely clean diet, even though I'm making strides.
But what I don't get is:
~I feel so worn out from all of the unhealthy foods I've been eating at parties lately.
IDK, maybe you're worn out from all of the parties, period? I've never felt worn out from processed or fast foods. I feel pretty good, unless I haven't gotten enough sleep, or I'm stressed... or... but not from food... unless we're talking a LARGE Thanksgiving style meal. I do get tired, but not SOOOOOOO worn out.
~I had (insert some unhealthy sounding food here that's not the best, but not going to kill you) and now I feel totally gross. I need to cleanse.
Other than having something like food poisoning or perhaps too much grease, I've never felt gross or terrible from eating a meal. As a whole, unless I need a shower or I'm sick, I don't feel gross.
I wish I could understand. Or, maybe I don't, because... I don't want to start feeling worn out and gross.
Really, I would like to eat better. I would like to cut down on fast food. I've decreased my soda consumption considerably. I'm working on it. But I know I will never have a purely clean diet, even though I'm making strides.
But what I don't get is:
~I feel so worn out from all of the unhealthy foods I've been eating at parties lately.
IDK, maybe you're worn out from all of the parties, period? I've never felt worn out from processed or fast foods. I feel pretty good, unless I haven't gotten enough sleep, or I'm stressed... or... but not from food... unless we're talking a LARGE Thanksgiving style meal. I do get tired, but not SOOOOOOO worn out.
~I had (insert some unhealthy sounding food here that's not the best, but not going to kill you) and now I feel totally gross. I need to cleanse.
Other than having something like food poisoning or perhaps too much grease, I've never felt gross or terrible from eating a meal. As a whole, unless I need a shower or I'm sick, I don't feel gross.
I wish I could understand. Or, maybe I don't, because... I don't want to start feeling worn out and gross.
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I agree! I have not felt guilty or "gross" about what I eat - it's all food and as long as I'm not allergic, then I don't see a problem! I understand the feeling of knowing you ate way too much, but some people on here seem to have guilty feelings when eating.0
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When you eat healthy for so long unhealthy food makes you feel horrible, sluggish, headaches, sick to your stomach, lack of energy, etc. which makes it much easier to stay away from it.0
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While I agree with most of this, if I go a month or so without any fast food or processed foods,and then have some, I feel so crappy. It makes me instantly tired feeling whereas, if I eat fresh foods and non processed foods, I get an instant energy boost. I guess it depends on the person though. I've been eating fast food a long time so I was surprised that after cutting it out for a month, my body didn't handle it the same way anymore.0
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I crave healthy food and fresh veggies!! My weakness is craving fruit... I try not to really eat it unless it's early in the day (strawberries, yummm) ... still too much sugar for me... :happy:
I hate how junk food makes you feel like cr@p!0 -
I took as much sodium out of my diet as possible and if I go to parties, most people over salt their foods (homemade or catered) and when I go home after a weekend of that much sodium, I feel like hell because my body is dehydrated.0
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I'm not sure why you don't believe other people when they say they feel gross. Try eating "clean foods" for a month and then eating greasy fatty fast food and see how you feel. I literally feel like I'm going to puke if I eat like this. If you have fast food and soda in your diet on a regular basis then, no it is not going to change how you feel. If you start eating more unprocessed foods you will notice a difference in how you feel if you ate fast food again. Food is a HUGE part of how you feel emotionally and physically. Try doing some reading on nutrition and maybe you will get a better understanding why people feel this way after eating crap processed food.0
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When you eat healthy for so long unhealthy food makes you feel horrible, sluggish, headaches, sick to your stomach, lack of energy, etc. which makes it much easier to stay away from it.
Playing devil's advocate here, then why, when I'm feeling awesome and all of my tests from the doctor come in swimmingly well and I'm pretty fit, do I want to increase the chances of me feeling like poop. From a logistical standpoint, it seems better for me to keep my diet moderate.0 -
When you eat healthy for so long unhealthy food makes you feel horrible, sluggish, headaches, sick to your stomach, lack of energy, etc. which makes it much easier to stay away from it.
Yup. Granted I don't eat "clean" - I eat lots of yummy processed food
like Lean Cuisines and things along those lines because I hate to cook - but I don't eat the stereotypical bad stuff - chips, cookies, chocolate - in staggering amounts anymore. When I *do* eat that stuff, it really does take its toll. I don't bemoan it or feel the need to redeem myself in any way, but I notice it. 0 -
I'm not talking about gorging yourself on fast food either.0
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When you eat healthy for so long unhealthy food makes you feel horrible, sluggish, headaches, sick to your stomach, lack of energy, etc. which makes it much easier to stay away from it.
what he said
also i have to watch my carbs and fat vs. the next person not having to. We are all different. chalk it up to that. 0 -
I agree that the "cleanse" thing is kind of silly. However, since I have been eating a very healthy diet for over two years now, a couple of parties or baseball games in a row does wear me out more than it did before -- and I have more energy now than sixty pounds ago. I have no doubt that "social food" does a number on my body. I can't even eat a chicken finger without getting a stomachache. (They used to be one of my favorites.)0
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While I agree with most of this, if I go a month or so without any fast food or processed foods,and then have some, I feel so crappy.
Me too. Even at 30 pounds overweight, I have never been into fast food. I find it to be made of cheap low grade meat (McDonalds hamburgers are GRAY, people!). However, I have to eat fast food maybe twice a year due to circumstances- e.g. stuck at an airport with zero other choices. When I do, it sits like a rock in my stomach and I feel pretty terrible. For some reason McDonalds makes me feel worse than other fast food places. So yes, it has pretty much always made me feel "gross" afterward, even when fat!0 -
I'm not sure why you don't believe other people when they say they feel gross. Try eating "clean foods" for a month and then eating greasy fatty fast food and see how you feel. I literally feel like I'm going to puke if I eat like this. If you have fast food and soda in your diet on a regular basis then, no it is not going to change how you feel. If you start eating more unprocessed foods you will notice a difference in how you feel if you ate fast food again. Food is a HUGE part of how you feel emotionally and physically. Try doing some reading on nutrition and maybe you will get a better understanding why people feel this way after eating crap processed food.
Yes, I get the idea behind processed food. Condescending much? You're completely missing the point I was trying to make. That's ok.0 -
I used to be able to eat pretty much anything and not be bothered by it. I could bounce back and forth between healthy stuff and and fast food/processed foods and not notice much difference. I find that is changing over time. I don't know if it has to do with getting older, or the fact that I eat less and less of the unhealthy stuff (mostly due to personal preference - if I really want something, I will eat it).
One thing I personally notice more and more is that I feel better when I eat less meat. When I say this people will argue with me that I am wrong. And that is ridiculous. How can you tell me how I feel? I'm not saying this is how everyone else should feel, it's just how I feel.
I used to like McDonald's, but I haven't eaten there for years because now I honestly don't want to; I don't think their food tastes good. So when I hear people talking about how hard it is to resist, I scratch my head. But lots of people do truly enjoy McDonald's food, no matter how I feel about it.
Everyone is different, so I can understand why maybe it's hard for you to relate because you don't experience something personally, but that doesn't mean it's not valid for someone else.0 -
I hear you! Some peeps have gone from being unhealthy to complete health nuts- moderation please!0
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I'm not sure why you don't believe other people when they say they feel gross. Try eating "clean foods" for a month and then eating greasy fatty fast food and see how you feel. I literally feel like I'm going to puke if I eat like this. If you have fast food and soda in your diet on a regular basis then, no it is not going to change how you feel. If you start eating more unprocessed foods you will notice a difference in how you feel if you ate fast food again. Food is a HUGE part of how you feel emotionally and physically. Try doing some reading on nutrition and maybe you will get a better understanding why people feel this way after eating crap processed food.
I ate a unprocessed raw diet for a while and I never had an issue when I went back to splurging or fast food, I didn't notice a difference at all no yucky feeling or being nauseous. So everyone is different on that point.0 -
Everyone is different, so I can understand why maybe it's hard for you to relate because you don't experience something personally, but that doesn't mean it's not valid for someone else.
I actually wrote out my post as soft sounding as I possibly could, saying, "I want to understand." So, I'm not quite sure why everyone is assuming that I don't think it's valid for them.0 -
But what I don't get is:
~I feel so worn out from all of the unhealthy foods I've been eating at parties lately.
IDK, maybe you're worn out from all of the parties, period? I've never felt worn out from processed or fast foods. I feel pretty good, unless I haven't gotten enough sleep, or I'm stressed... or... but not from food... unless we're talking a LARGE Thanksgiving style meal. I do get tired, but not SOOOOOOO worn out.
This made me laugh, I don't eat food at parties because I'm severely "allergic" (its an intolerance really) to gluten and soy/dairy - if I eat any amount of any of them I'm out. Exhaustion, migrains, brain fogs, not to mention GI problems. I think more people have mild allergic reactions to food than we'd expect. I didn't find out about my food intolerances until I was 21, go to a Celiac forum and people will be impressed I figured it out so young. Food reacts differently to people. My sister is also gluten intolerant, but not severely, she just can't "load" on it. When I read things about being tired after eating 'junk' food all I think is, 'I wonder if they're allergic to XYZ, too"0 -
All I feel is insane guilt... maybe that's the equivalent of "gross" to some people.0
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When I read things about being tired after eating 'junk' food all I think is, 'I wonder if they're allergic to XYZ, too"
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This mostly happens with sugar for me. If I've been cutting down on sugar, once I eat sugar again I get this saggy feeling all over my skin (even if it's not really sagging) and generally feel uncomfortable. Not to mention the jittery twitching. Then I feel blah-ish for the rest of the day.
Salty and greasy foods, however, have zero effect on me. Except for me feeling faint if I go without salt. Low blood pressure!
Maybe the grossness people feel when they switch back is all the simple carbs and sugars that tend to accompany processed foods, and then they attribute it to the fast food in general. I noticed someone said they didn't feel a difference when they went off a raw diet to processed food, but don't raw diets include a TON of fruit? In other words, a lot of simple sugars (yes, more nutrients from fruit, but I saw a sample raw menu once and...yeah, a lot of fruit)? Meanwhile, someone "eating clean", living off yogurt, green beans and chicken breasts and brown rice (and etc) with the occasional fruit has lower sugar levels in their system at any given time. Having a burger and a milkshake, with all those refined carbs, probably is a huge jolt to the system.
Just a thought, maybe.0 -
I have a hard time relating to food guilt. I look at a food splurge the way I look at a nap. If I didn't need it (either physically or emotionally) I wouldn't have taken it. One splurge isn't going to undo weeks of good eating. Just like an occasional nap doesn't mean I'm lazy. Feeling like I screwed up is more likely to derail me than anything I eat.
The only time I've ever felt "Oh, why did I eat that?!" is when I've had gas and cramps from Fiber One bars.
I do get a much bigger sugar rush from desserts than I used to, but I kinda enjoyed that. :laugh:0 -
I do sometimes physically feel bad after eating bad foods, but it's usually for one of two reasons. One, it's easier to eat larger portions without realizing it. So sometimes I'm just in pain from stuffing my stomach. It's not really the food, just the quantity. Second, since I've been eating healthier I'm much more aware of the effect sugar has on my mood and energy levels. If I eat lots of sugar or simple carbs I'll get a big rush followed by a crash a couple of hours later. That roller-coaster effect can definitely make me feel yucky and sometimes cause headaches.
Also, different people react differently to foods. I've never been able to eat much in the way of processed meats due to the preservatives. No matter how good they might taste, they give me significant issues. If it's a high enough load of preservatives, like in hot dogs, it just won't even stay down. My body flat out rejects them. So some people might have allergy or sensitivity issues to certain ingredients that are common in some "bad" foods.
There's one other thing I've considered too. Some of us who've been quite obese really learned to ignore lots of things about our bodies. We were eating for emotional reasons and didn't want to notice how bad some foods always made us feel. Now that we're on the journey to better health we're much more conscious of and willing to listen to all the things our bodies are telling us. So there wasn't really a change due to a clean diet, just an altered level of awareness.0 -
I agree with what most everyone (including you), has said so far about this!
I must say, I feel the same way as you do. I don't really feel 'yucky' when I eat processed foods. I've always eaten fairly clean, and never had a problem with an occasional fast food meal causing issues. Honestly I think the problem is mostly psychological, now sometimes if I eat a huge cheat meal, I'm more pissed with myself than I am physically affected by it. Reasonable cheat meals, are fine.
That having been said, I did notice something recently I never had before. After almost 6 mos of virtually no sweets (I really don't have a sweet tooth, so it hasn't been worth it to me to work into the diet), I recently had some cookies / cheat type of things, thinking 'no big deal at all' - but I've found now, when I'm so unaccustomed to this type of thing, that the addition of even a little of it back into my diet has made me crave it ALL THE TIME! So yah... that's my story. Also, I over my 4th of july weekend, I ate fast food, and diet sodas and stuff, for the first time really since my diet began, and the day after the trip, (TMI Alert) I couldn't get off the toilet... don't know if it's related, just saying.
So yah, what people have been saying. It's not a big deal if you do it semi-regularily, or even occasionally. If you literally never do it, a processed meal can feel like the second day of low-carbing. (IE, CRAP)0 -
I have to say I have no ill effects from a balanced amount of anything, including "unhealthy" food so long as it's a treat and not an everyday occurrence. It's all carbohydrate, fat and protein which the body uses for energy and repairs.
For every few days I eat healthily I'll have a curry or a sausage, bacon and egg fry-up. During a stressful day at work I'll have a lowish-calorie (but not "diet") chocolate bar, which, heaven forfend, gives me a boost an apple never would to get my brain working again.
I do bloat up if I have loads of bread and pasta in a day, but to be honest that was when I was eating a lot of everything - staying within MFP limits means I never eat so much I get affected any more. So it may or may not be an intolerance, but it's easily managed by not stuffing my face with it. Though I suspect my formerly tight waistbands weren't helping the pain and bloating either!
I certainly don't get a "food hangover" from eating "bad" food, never a second of guilt, and so long as I stay under MFP calories on average over a week and get the nutrients I need, the weight's still coming off and I have plenty enough energy to work out any time of day I decide.0 -
I think it because some people are crazy and you are not.0
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I do sometimes physically feel bad after eating bad foods, but it's usually for one of two reasons. One, it's easier to eat larger portions without realizing it. So sometimes I'm just in pain from stuffing my stomach. It's not really the food, just the quantity. Second, since I've been eating healthier I'm much more aware of the effect sugar has on my mood and energy levels. If I eat lots of sugar or simple carbs I'll get a big rush followed by a crash a couple of hours later. That roller-coaster effect can definitely make me feel yucky and sometimes cause headaches.
Also, different people react differently to foods. I've never been able to eat much in the way of processed meats due to the preservatives. No matter how good they might taste, they give me significant issues. If it's a high enough load of preservatives, like in hot dogs, it just won't even stay down. My body flat out rejects them. So some people might have allergy or sensitivity issues to certain ingredients that are common in some "bad" foods.
There's one other thing I've considered too. Some of us who've been quite obese really learned to ignore lots of things about our bodies. We were eating for emotional reasons and didn't want to notice how bad some foods always made us feel. Now that we're on the journey to better health we're much more conscious of and willing to listen to all the things our bodies are telling us. So there wasn't really a change due to a clean diet, just an altered level of awareness.
Oh yeah I forgot about processed meats. It's been so long since I had icky packaged ham! That stuff used to make me feel blah-ish too, especially if it's the really cheap kind. High end Spanish and Italian hams are "processed" I guess, but I don't know, maybe the decadence and the lightness of my wallet makes me giddy enough to counteract it!0 -
I think it because some people are crazy and you are not.
>Oh no, every now and again I get a little psycho... just not psychosomatic! :P<0 -
I think everyone's body is different. I used to be able to eat anything I wanted and never feel sick or gross. That was before I had my first baby. Since, my body has changed. I can still enjoy any sugary and sweet foods I want with no problem. It is the greasy stuff that gets me...especially food from restaurants! If I eat a greasy burger or something...then it is stomach cramps and all the bad things that go with that. I really think everyone's body reacts to different foods differently. Artificial sweeteners have always made me sick - migraines. It really is all about listening to your body! As for guilt - I don't feel guilty if I eat something bad or not on my healthy food plan. I enjoy every single bite and just know that I won't see the scale move like I want for having done so.
IMO, those of us who have SEVERE guilt over eating bad foods don't necessarily have the healthiest thought processes. If you eat something terrible, you are conscious of it before, during and after you do it. If you ate it, own up to it and move on! Exercise more, drink more water and make better choices for your NEXT meal or snack. Get back on track right away! We are all human and we can't be perfect all the time!0 -
To be truthful, the mind is a very powerful thing. Except for things like allergies and intolerances and stuff, I think you can convince yourself to feel gross and bloated and yucky after eating certain foods, as a reminder to not eat it. If you WANT to feel guilty about eating something, then you do. If you DON'T, then you don't. If you WANT to feel gross, then you focus on those little gross feelings. If you don't want to feel gross, you don't notice those little gross feelings.0
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