Stretching but just more stiff

I started sitting on the floor while at the computer in an effort to stretch hips, hammies, inner thighs, etc. I have not seen much progress in flexibility. Worse, I feel so stiff now I can barely move my legs when I get up from the floor.

What gives?! Please tell me this is normal on the way to being majorly flexible...

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  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    All normal. When you start to use muscles that you haven't used before they tighten up. Soak in a hot tub, use some lotion for muscle pain--and slowly restart after a day of rest. You'll find that they'll loosen up after a week or so if you don't push them too much. Once they stop hurting, slowly add more--more time, different stretches. Whenever you quit, even just going on vacation, or after a month, you'll find that you have to start over. It won't take as long, but muscles need to be used regularly.
  • MsAmandaNJ
    MsAmandaNJ Posts: 1,248 Member
    1. How long have you been doing this?

    2. Do you do any warming up activities prior to doing this static stretching?

    Yes, it's normal to be sore after doing something new. Flexibility takes time, practice, AND genetics. When you say "majorly flexible", what's the picture you have in mind?
  • mgalovic01
    mgalovic01 Posts: 388 Member
    I had the same experience. Too much too soon.
  • sarahkw04
    sarahkw04 Posts: 87 Member
    Have you looked into foam rolling? I swear by it. I foam roll most evenings, and always before I lift - helps so much!
  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    sarahkw04 wrote: »
    Have you looked into foam rolling? I swear by it. I foam roll most evenings, and always before I lift - helps so much!

    hurts so much but feels so good (when you're done) ;)
  • Morriganmum
    Morriganmum Posts: 37 Member
    I would LOVE to be able to finally do the splits. But for now I can do Siddhasana & Sukhasana fairly well and comfortably. Lotus sitting is going to take some work. Butterfly stretch is what I am expecting more progress on but am not seeing much. And my hamstrings are so tight is it hard for me to touch my toes. Ug.

    I've been sitting on the floor for about 3 weeks now. I just expected further progress by now.
    I don't do any specific warming up exercises. Maybe I should at least start my sitting/stretching times with dynamic stretches?

    I have a foam roller as well as a hand roller (Tiger Tail- LOVE it!!); I guess I need to use them more.

    I am glad though to hear I'm experiencing similar to others and not that there is something wrong with me.
  • Morriganmum
    Morriganmum Posts: 37 Member
    Ohhh, just realized that I can also sit here with a hot rice pack on various areas!
  • MsAmandaNJ
    MsAmandaNJ Posts: 1,248 Member
    @Morriganmum I've found that I prefer Siddhasana to Sukhasana because I'm not resting on my ankle bones, much more comfy for me. Sounds like you also have open hips, it will help you with certain poses, but not with doing splits...that's where your tight hamstrings are holding you back.

    Keep in mind, not all poses are possible depending on your body. For me, lotus just won't happen unless I have skinny thighs (never have, never will) no matter how far I can get my knees apart. If I'm warmed up, I can easily do half lotus. I'm wondering if you're struggling with butterfly because of tight hip flexors. You can use a belt or scarf to bind your ankles so that you don't have to reach for the toes just yet.

    Movement before stretching is a big yes! Some wide legged squats should be included since you want to stretch your hamstrings. You might notice more progress once you are warmed up.

    And I love my rice pack! If you have two, you can place one on each knee to give it a slight push down.
  • deannalfisher
    deannalfisher Posts: 5,600 Member
    I would LOVE to be able to finally do the splits. But for now I can do Siddhasana & Sukhasana fairly well and comfortably. Lotus sitting is going to take some work. Butterfly stretch is what I am expecting more progress on but am not seeing much. And my hamstrings are so tight is it hard for me to touch my toes. Ug.

    I've been sitting on the floor for about 3 weeks now. I just expected further progress by now.
    I don't do any specific warming up exercises. Maybe I should at least start my sitting/stretching times with dynamic stretches?

    I have a foam roller as well as a hand roller (Tiger Tail- LOVE it!!); I guess I need to use them more.

    I am glad though to hear I'm experiencing similar to others and not that there is something wrong with me.

    i was reading something in an athletic journal that often times hamstrings being tight is a symptoms of quad muscles needing to be loosened and hamstrings basically tighten up as a protective measure
  • Packerjohn
    Packerjohn Posts: 4,855 Member
    Interesting article on stretching and mobility work:
    https://www.t-nation.com/training/stretching-doesnt-work
  • AnnPT77
    AnnPT77 Posts: 34,091 Member
    Personally, I think stretching does work, but it's subtle, gradual, and not an instant-gratification thing.

    Yes to the warm-up, and to not pushing excessively hard - just go until you can feel the stretch happening, not to the absolute max achievable by struggle.

    For me, the difference in progress is huge if I stretch every day vs. almost every day. IME, a couple times a week achieves pretty much nothing.

    Even then, it's slow. I was working on that stretch where you put both arms behind your back, one coming up from below, the other coming down from above your head, and try to grasp the two hands between your shoulder blades. It took around a month to go from fingertips not quite touching (inch or two) to just touching on one side, and a week or two more on the other. (Of course, I'm old (61), so it may be even slower for me.)

    I was thinking about working on splits, too, but assuming it's at least a full winter's project, and I'm fairly flexible otherwise already.

    Patience and consistency. Patience and consistency.
  • peaceout_aly
    peaceout_aly Posts: 2,018 Member
    I started sitting on the floor while at the computer in an effort to stretch hips, hammies, inner thighs, etc. I have not seen much progress in flexibility. Worse, I feel so stiff now I can barely move my legs when I get up from the floor.

    What gives?! Please tell me this is normal on the way to being majorly flexible...

    Totally normal! I, too, have extremely tight hip flexors, hamstrings and inner thighs. I've been actively stretching for about 20-minutes per day for the past three years and still haven't gained as much flexibility as I'd like (my goal is to open up my hips so my squats are more balanced). When you start stretching, there's the chance that you'll pull something or cause muscle soreness, therefore causing tightness while muscles are recovering. Still stretch and push through, but not to the point of pain. It will aid in clearing the lactic acid build up.
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    I find that stretching while "cold" isn't very effective. Stretching after a workout or walk is much more effective because muscles are already warmed up and pliable. Most common wisdom in fitness recommends against static stretching until after a workout. Even if you do some bodyweight squats, lunges, and pushups first for 5-10 min I think you'll find the stretching more beneficial. But 3 weeks isn't very long in terms of improving flexibility. It takes months for most people.
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    OK--whats the difference between stretching and warming up? I do 45 mins of combined aerobics, stretching and yoga to warm up early in the morning, especially before I go to the pool. I've been doing this for over 20 yrs and if I don't, I'll pull a muscle or wind up with cramps. I have OA and my routine is essential to limber up my stiffness and take away some pain.
  • lorrpb
    lorrpb Posts: 11,463 Member
    edited December 2016
    @snowflake954
    A (dynamic) warmup is light use of the muscles through their full range of motion before you start the hard part of the workout and would be movement based, like arm circles, squats, rotations, etc. Static stretching is pulling/stretching a muscle but not moving it through the range of motion, like sitting on the floor and reaching for your foot/toes. (Sorry, this isn't a very technical description.)
    Sounds like you have a great routine going that works well for you!
  • snowflake954
    snowflake954 Posts: 8,399 Member
    lorrpb wrote: »
    @snowflake954
    A (dynamic) warmup is light use of the muscles through their full range of motion before you start the hard part of the workout and would be movement based, like arm circles, squats, rotations, etc. Static stretching is pulling/stretching a muscle but not moving it through the range of motion, like sitting on the floor and reaching for your foot/toes. (Sorry, this isn't a very technical description.)
    Sounds like you have a great routine going that works well for you!

    Yup--thanks, I'm doing all that and more. I've worked out this routine over the years and it does help alot. Sometimes I think people are talking about warm-up on here, but are calling it stretching.