Activity Level and Logging Exercise
ladyhawk00
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There are frequent posts asking what should be logged as “exercise”… And occasional posts condemning those who, some believe, log frivolous activities. I’d like to give a simple overview of activity level settings and how to determine what to log.
What you log as exercise is very dependent on your Activity Level setting. Activity Level is intended to include your normal routine at home (cooking dinner, doing laundry, brushing your teeth, watching TV, etc), and what you do for work. It does not include purposeful exercise, or any significant activity outside norm.
The Activity Level factors MFP uses are based on statistics for average people, not athletes or someone bedridden. The higher your BMR, the more cals Activity Level adds. Also, the higher your LBM (lean body mass – how much muscle you have), the higher Activity Level factor you need, to account for more calories burned even when at rest. This is where many lean, reasonably muscular people err, as they don’t compensate for higher muscle mass. If you choose the wrong Activity Level setting, you may be eating too much or too little.
Sedentary: Adds about 250-500 cals/day for most people. Appropriate for: Those who work at a desk job AND are sedentary at home, with light or no exercise and low LBM; Usually NOT appropriate for stay-at-home moms/dads with young children.
Lightly Active: Adds 450-700. Appropriate for: Most people with young children, who are otherwise sedentary; Many who have a desk job but exercise moderately and have a moderate LBM%; Those who stand a lot at work, but don’t really walk around a lot or lift heavy items, etc.
Active: Adds 700-1000. Appropriate for those who have an active job (some nurses, waitresses, laborers, etc) and exercise moderately-frequently, and especially those who have a high LBM%.
Very Active: Adds 950-1400. Appropriate for those who have a very active job (trainers, some laborers, some athletes, some warehouse workers), and exercise frequently and have a high or very high LBM%.
So, now that you’ve chosen your appropriate Activity Level setting… What should you log as “exercise”?
What you log should be ANYthing that burns significantly (100-200+) more calories than are accounted for in your Activity Level setting. This means logging a 10 minute walk, light cleaning for 30 minutes, cooking for 45 minutes, etc., IS appropriate for a Sedentary Activity Level. Someone set at Active or Very Active, and some Lightly Active, generally shouldn't log them, because those “little” things are already accounted for and a fit person burns far less calories for the same activity. For someone who is very sedentary (often those who are obese or morbidly obese but not always), just walking to the mailbox, doing dishes or laundry, or a trip to the grocery store IS a strenuous activity that burns significant calories – and those calories aren't accounted for at a Sedentary Activity Level.
Which brings us to why this is important. You’ve chosen to use a daily intake/expenditure log as a tool to get healthy or maintain health. This means accurately accounting for ALL of your intake and ALL of your expenditures. MFP does most of this math for you. But you have to determine what to log.
Using a calorie counter successfully means accuracy and accountability. You don’t ignore that handful of Skittles you ate this afternoon. And you don’t ignore an expenditure if it hasn’t been accounted for. You log everything as accurately as possible, because if you don’t, you’ll be in trouble sooner or later. Just because it’s something you’ve always done, but you still “got fat doing it”, doesn’t mean you don’t need to log it now. You didn’t log your intake before either. This is all about accountability, for intake AND expenditure.
Finally, I’ll point out that for a lot of people who have had very little activity for a long time, the motivation to take just a 10 minute walk can be pretty hard to come by. So if they can log that 10 minutes and someone tells them “Good job!”, that can be a pretty good sense of accomplishment and make it happen again tomorrow, and maybe the next day is even longer. So maybe their activities aren’t as intense as yours…yet. But they’re working on it, so don’t belittle their efforts.
Choose the right settings, log accurately and you’ll be successful! Best wishes! :flowerforyou:
What you log as exercise is very dependent on your Activity Level setting. Activity Level is intended to include your normal routine at home (cooking dinner, doing laundry, brushing your teeth, watching TV, etc), and what you do for work. It does not include purposeful exercise, or any significant activity outside norm.
The Activity Level factors MFP uses are based on statistics for average people, not athletes or someone bedridden. The higher your BMR, the more cals Activity Level adds. Also, the higher your LBM (lean body mass – how much muscle you have), the higher Activity Level factor you need, to account for more calories burned even when at rest. This is where many lean, reasonably muscular people err, as they don’t compensate for higher muscle mass. If you choose the wrong Activity Level setting, you may be eating too much or too little.
Sedentary: Adds about 250-500 cals/day for most people. Appropriate for: Those who work at a desk job AND are sedentary at home, with light or no exercise and low LBM; Usually NOT appropriate for stay-at-home moms/dads with young children.
Lightly Active: Adds 450-700. Appropriate for: Most people with young children, who are otherwise sedentary; Many who have a desk job but exercise moderately and have a moderate LBM%; Those who stand a lot at work, but don’t really walk around a lot or lift heavy items, etc.
Active: Adds 700-1000. Appropriate for those who have an active job (some nurses, waitresses, laborers, etc) and exercise moderately-frequently, and especially those who have a high LBM%.
Very Active: Adds 950-1400. Appropriate for those who have a very active job (trainers, some laborers, some athletes, some warehouse workers), and exercise frequently and have a high or very high LBM%.
So, now that you’ve chosen your appropriate Activity Level setting… What should you log as “exercise”?
What you log should be ANYthing that burns significantly (100-200+) more calories than are accounted for in your Activity Level setting. This means logging a 10 minute walk, light cleaning for 30 minutes, cooking for 45 minutes, etc., IS appropriate for a Sedentary Activity Level. Someone set at Active or Very Active, and some Lightly Active, generally shouldn't log them, because those “little” things are already accounted for and a fit person burns far less calories for the same activity. For someone who is very sedentary (often those who are obese or morbidly obese but not always), just walking to the mailbox, doing dishes or laundry, or a trip to the grocery store IS a strenuous activity that burns significant calories – and those calories aren't accounted for at a Sedentary Activity Level.
Which brings us to why this is important. You’ve chosen to use a daily intake/expenditure log as a tool to get healthy or maintain health. This means accurately accounting for ALL of your intake and ALL of your expenditures. MFP does most of this math for you. But you have to determine what to log.
Using a calorie counter successfully means accuracy and accountability. You don’t ignore that handful of Skittles you ate this afternoon. And you don’t ignore an expenditure if it hasn’t been accounted for. You log everything as accurately as possible, because if you don’t, you’ll be in trouble sooner or later. Just because it’s something you’ve always done, but you still “got fat doing it”, doesn’t mean you don’t need to log it now. You didn’t log your intake before either. This is all about accountability, for intake AND expenditure.
Finally, I’ll point out that for a lot of people who have had very little activity for a long time, the motivation to take just a 10 minute walk can be pretty hard to come by. So if they can log that 10 minutes and someone tells them “Good job!”, that can be a pretty good sense of accomplishment and make it happen again tomorrow, and maybe the next day is even longer. So maybe their activities aren’t as intense as yours…yet. But they’re working on it, so don’t belittle their efforts.
Choose the right settings, log accurately and you’ll be successful! Best wishes! :flowerforyou:
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Beautifully said. :flowerforyou:
And I want to add that when I first started on here, I logged the walking I did when shopping as a 2mph walk for 30 minutes. It's kind of like a gateway drug. Walking for a little bit gives me a few more calories to work with... what will doing MORE exercise do for me? It built up from there.
Don't belittle the baby steps. Baby steps become bigger steps. And faster steps. I didn't start out crawling under barbed wire and leaping fire for fun. :drinker:0 -
Great post! I found it very helpful! Im a stay at home mom and at the beginning I was logging everything such as cleaning and food preparation. But then I realized how MFP works and for me, those are included in my everyday activity. So I dont log those activities anymore.0
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Thank you so much for setting that out so clearly. I have explained briefly on numerous posts when people are asking should they log, for example housework etc. My activity level is set at sedentary because I have a desk job and therefore I feel that I could log everything if I wanted to. I think that its a common mistake to set activity level at say, lightly active, and then log everything you do at home which is obviously then accounting for it twice. Anyway, well said0
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When I joined, I was surprised by how many normal daily activities are listed for exercise. Generally, I only log the calories for extra stuff I do during the day that I wouldn't have done if I wasn't trying to get fitter. I was cleaning the house before I started counting calories, so it doesn't really help me with the weight loss.
On the other hand, I hate mowing the lawn, but I just bought a lawn mower a few weeks ago to save paying someone to cut it and because I heard push mowers are a great workout. In this case, the calories are the incentive for doing the job, which I might put off for weeks otherwise.
In the end, I guess we are accountable to ourselves and if the vacuuming calories are the incentive you need to keep moving, log away!0 -
You have just made my day. I feel a lot better about logging in the laundry I do, and how I do just a couple quick jogs a day with my puppy. I got him to help me stay happy and fit . It seems to be working. I'm already losing weight.0
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Thanks! Makes sense.0
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Im bumping this and bookmarking it because you know in a week or 2 someone else will be posting about how people shouldnt log cleaning and such as exercise lol0
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I log my regular exercises but I do log:
1. grocery shopping.. When I go, I park in the back of the parking lot and walk to the store, I walk up and down every aisle even if I don't need anything from it and then walk alllll the way back to the car. I consider it exercise and when the temps are hitting near 100 out, there's no way in hell Id be out walking in it. Call me pampered but I don't like heat stroke lol
2. Cleaning only IF its top to bottom, deep cleaning the whole house. If Im really getting up and down and working up a sweat, then I count it.
3. Once in a while I log cooking, if Im cooking say a HUGE meal for like Easter or Thanksgiving and Im cutting and walking and doing for several hours straight.0 -
I think I get it now... thank you for posting. This has been very helpful.0
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I work an extra 4 hour shift once a week doing cake decoration. I usually log half of it, and log it as cooking. I know that 'standing' isn't really exercise, but if I'm on my feet all day at my main job, and then am on my feet for an additional 4 hours after-work, with quite a bit of lifting, and squatting and what not.0
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Beautifully said!Just because it’s something you’ve always done, but you still “got fat doing it”, doesn’t mean you don’t need to log it now. You didn’t log your intake before either. This is all about accountability, for intake AND expenditure.
I just have to quote this part because it's the point I always want to make for "those threads" but could never verbalize. You did so wonderfully.0 -
Beautifully said. :flowerforyou:
And I want to add that when I first started on here, I logged the walking I did when shopping as a 2mph walk for 30 minutes. It's kind of like a gateway drug. Walking for a little bit gives me a few more calories to work with... what will doing MORE exercise do for me? It built up from there.
Don't belittle the baby steps. Baby steps become bigger steps. And faster steps. I didn't start out crawling under barbed wire and leaping fire for fun. :drinker:
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I use light because it specifically has my job as an example. On my off days I don't log light activities such as doing things around the house or doing the shopping or whatever, only if I go and specifically do some solid time doing something specifically towards exercise. I guess it's to each what they log or don't but I really don't want to start thinking of doing my housework in terms of how many calories did I just burn.0
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I use light because it specifically has my job as an example. On my off days I don't log light activities such as doing things around the house or doing the shopping or whatever, only if I go and specifically do some solid time doing something specifically towards exercise. I guess it's to each what they log or don't but I really don't want to start thinking of doing my housework in terms of how many calories did I just burn.
You're probably right on the money, for your lifestyle. Because you're at Lightly Active due to your job, on your days off you don't have the activity from work - so your stuff at home on those days makes up for "not working".
It's perfectly fine to include the chores at home in Activity Level and not log them as exercise. The problem only arises when someone is at Sedentary, with a house full of kids and cleaning frequently, cooking big meals, going to the park with the munchkins, etc,...but doesn't log any of those activities. Because those calories burned wouldn't be accounted for, and the person could end up underfeeding.0 -
Im bumping this and bookmarking it because you know in a week or 2 someone else will be posting about how people shouldnt log cleaning and such as exercise lol
:bigsmile: Precisely why........lol0 -
Beautifully said!Just because it’s something you’ve always done, but you still “got fat doing it”, doesn’t mean you don’t need to log it now. You didn’t log your intake before either. This is all about accountability, for intake AND expenditure.
I just have to quote this part because it's the point I always want to make for "those threads" but could never verbalize. You did so wonderfully.
Thank you. And yep, that's one of those comments that make me cringe! :laugh:0 -
Beautifully said. :flowerforyou:
And I want to add that when I first started on here, I logged the walking I did when shopping as a 2mph walk for 30 minutes. It's kind of like a gateway drug. Walking for a little bit gives me a few more calories to work with... what will doing MORE exercise do for me? It built up from there.
Don't belittle the baby steps. Baby steps become bigger steps. And faster steps. I didn't start out crawling under barbed wire and leaping fire for fun. :drinker:
Bingo! I always smile when I see your pic.0 -
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Wonderful post. Thanks for the explanation - I think it'll clear things up for a lot of people. I know it did for me, anyway.0
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Awesome post!
I don't think we are here to judge each other. Just because *I* don't personally log everyday things as exercise (because I am highly active as I work on my feet, go to the gym and what not) doesn't necessarily mean someone else shouldn't. Don't judge what someone else is doing... though I did see someone try and log "sitting on the couch" as an activity.
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Awesome post!
I don't think we are here to judge each other. Just because *I* don't personally log everyday things as exercise (because I am highly active as I work on my feet, go to the gym and what not) doesn't necessarily mean someone else shouldn't. Don't judge what someone else is doing... though I did see someone try and log "sitting on the couch" as an activity.
Hm. Not so sure about THAT one... lol
:laugh: :huh: Maybe it was a euphemism for...something else.... :ohwell: :laugh:
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i se my activity level as sedentary specifically so i could choose what i log i do occasionally log the grocery store and cleaning if i working up a sweat but if i dont feel like ive got a workout i dont log it excellent post0
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Nice Post. :drinker:0
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Thanks for the simple well-thought out explanation. I've seen lots of questions and a variety of answers on this subject and yours is the best.0 -
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Thanks for the simple well-thought out explanation. I've seen lots of questions and a variety of answers on this subject and yours is the best.0 -
Wonderful!! Thanks for posting this!!0
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This should help a lot of people, and it was worded beautifully, as usual.0
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Glad it's helped :flowerforyou:0
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