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danipals1
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I think it has taken me all of my 42 years to come to what might be a simple conclusion. I think I am making this whole weight loss thing too complicated and expecting too much.
I have been on a constant "diet" since I was 14 years old. Maybe a week here or there that I can't remember when I wasn't on a "plan." I wouldn't know what to do with a day that was not consumed by thinking about food and what the rules are that I am planning to follow that day and then stressing about the fact that I messed up. I have had times that I was miserable that I didn't lose weight on diet x,y, or z but look back at those pictures now and think I would LOVE to be that size right now. I have been on EVERY diet plan. Every. Single. One. I have been know to check out 4 Diet books from the library at a time. That way after each one didn't work I had another ready to try the next Monday. I self sabotage. I binge eat in ways that my husband doesn't even know because I wait until he goes to bed and then I sneak. I have notebooks upon notebooks that have 10 or so pages in them of food logs, food rules, menu ideas. Just enough pages that after 3 weeks and not seeing the success I should I quit and move on to the next quick fix plan. Lots of wasted pages because you know you need a new notebook for a new plan on a new Monday. I'm a mess. A 42 yo, 5'6", 178 lb mess.
Reading though all of your posts has finally made me think that I really am making this too hard. That maybe trusting the MFP system and eating what I want within my calorie goals might work. That by not having so many rules, I won't deprive myself for enough days that then I binge and ruin the little progress that I do make. I just don't know how to actually trust the system. I don't know how to eat like a normal person without rules and I realize that this sounds stupid... I realize this... but it is true. I feel like I am stuck in place and can't move forward without a "plan." What I really want is a plan to make me NOT think about rules, NOT stress that I ruined my day and blew it when in actuality I ate 1600 calories (but was only supposed to eat 1200), NOT spend all of my time analyzing my previous meal and my next meal, NOT go to bed thinking over the day-- not reflecting on the good things that happened but whether or not I "did good" or will "do good" tomorrow. I don't know how to do this.
But, I am going to try... I am going to force myself to tear out the pages in the new notebook that just copied down on a new carb cycling plan not 30 minutes ago. I am going to think about what I really want to eat but just figure out how much fits into my calories limit. I have set myself to Sedentary so that I can trust my Fitbit Charge HR as it adds my 10,000 steps worth of calories and maybe eat back some of them. I might even go crazy and set my goal to 1.5 lb per week instead of 2 even though I want to lose as quickly as possible.
Whew...that feels like a weight off of my shoulders. I apologize for the long post. I think it was kind of like going to confession and I feel better for it. I wonder how it will feel to be "normal" and hope I can trust in the system. I appreciate all of the success story posters who have made me feel like this just might work.
Thanks for listening.
I have been on a constant "diet" since I was 14 years old. Maybe a week here or there that I can't remember when I wasn't on a "plan." I wouldn't know what to do with a day that was not consumed by thinking about food and what the rules are that I am planning to follow that day and then stressing about the fact that I messed up. I have had times that I was miserable that I didn't lose weight on diet x,y, or z but look back at those pictures now and think I would LOVE to be that size right now. I have been on EVERY diet plan. Every. Single. One. I have been know to check out 4 Diet books from the library at a time. That way after each one didn't work I had another ready to try the next Monday. I self sabotage. I binge eat in ways that my husband doesn't even know because I wait until he goes to bed and then I sneak. I have notebooks upon notebooks that have 10 or so pages in them of food logs, food rules, menu ideas. Just enough pages that after 3 weeks and not seeing the success I should I quit and move on to the next quick fix plan. Lots of wasted pages because you know you need a new notebook for a new plan on a new Monday. I'm a mess. A 42 yo, 5'6", 178 lb mess.
Reading though all of your posts has finally made me think that I really am making this too hard. That maybe trusting the MFP system and eating what I want within my calorie goals might work. That by not having so many rules, I won't deprive myself for enough days that then I binge and ruin the little progress that I do make. I just don't know how to actually trust the system. I don't know how to eat like a normal person without rules and I realize that this sounds stupid... I realize this... but it is true. I feel like I am stuck in place and can't move forward without a "plan." What I really want is a plan to make me NOT think about rules, NOT stress that I ruined my day and blew it when in actuality I ate 1600 calories (but was only supposed to eat 1200), NOT spend all of my time analyzing my previous meal and my next meal, NOT go to bed thinking over the day-- not reflecting on the good things that happened but whether or not I "did good" or will "do good" tomorrow. I don't know how to do this.
But, I am going to try... I am going to force myself to tear out the pages in the new notebook that just copied down on a new carb cycling plan not 30 minutes ago. I am going to think about what I really want to eat but just figure out how much fits into my calories limit. I have set myself to Sedentary so that I can trust my Fitbit Charge HR as it adds my 10,000 steps worth of calories and maybe eat back some of them. I might even go crazy and set my goal to 1.5 lb per week instead of 2 even though I want to lose as quickly as possible.
Whew...that feels like a weight off of my shoulders. I apologize for the long post. I think it was kind of like going to confession and I feel better for it. I wonder how it will feel to be "normal" and hope I can trust in the system. I appreciate all of the success story posters who have made me feel like this just might work.
Thanks for listening.
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I feel ya! I can relate to most of what you typed.I'm still lost. No matter what I try, I return to binging.0
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Eat food you like and try to stay at a calorie deficit. Good luck, I'm glad you finally stopped dieting and have started to make lifestyle changes that can last. Stop stressing over food! No more diet books.2
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I'm hoping that just saying it out loud will help me to commit to stopping the madness.2
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Don't feel like you're alone, there are a LOT of people who make it way more complicated than it really is.
IMO, a large part of the blame goes to the diet/nutrition/supplement industry - a multibillion dollar fraud machine that stakes their livelihood on convincing people that CICO doesn't work and it's soooo complicated and difficult that there's no way you can do it on your own - you need their books, diets, "supplements", magic pills/potions, workout programs and foods to successfully lose weight (none of which is true). It's on TV, in the magazines, all over the internet, on the grocery store shelves, etc.
You need to go low carb. You need to go high carb vegan. You need to go paleo. Sugar is the devil. ANY carbs are the devil. Fat is the devil. Insulin is the devil. All white foods are the devil. You need to eat 6 small meals a day. You need to eat 2 meals a day within a 4 hour period. You need to fast two days a week. You need to carb cycle. You need to zig-zag your calorie intake. You need to cleanse/detox yourself. You need to eat cabbage soup and drink green tea. You need to drink two shakes and eat one meal per day. You must eat breakfast to get your metabolism going. You can't eat after 7:00 pm because your metabolism goes to sleep. You need this supplement to kick start/jump start your diet or "reboot" your body. You need to take this latest "supplement" which will melt/blast/zap/annihilate your fat!!!
It's all bull*kitten*. You need to take in less calories than you're expending, period. In the process of doing that, work your way to eating a varied, well-rounded diet with a reasonable calorie intake in which you're getting adequate macro and micronutrients. Make it a diet that satisfies you and that you can stick to, because otherwise what's the point? If it's not sustainable, that means you won't stick to it. You'll go back to doing what you did before and you'll end up right back where you started from.
It's been said many times - weight loss isn't easy, but it is simple. Eat at a caloric deficit, trust the process and don't make it any more complicated than it has to be. Realize that it doesn't happen overnight and have patience. Don't freaking over-think it. Because despite what the diet industry wants you to believe, It's. Not. That. Complicated.20 -
Good luck to you , the system works , just takes time and eating on plan ..
let us know if we can help any at all ,, my food log is open if you want to nose around
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Yes. You're making it too complicated. It's not complicated. Eat and log. Or log and eat. It's not easy forgetting everything we thought we knew. Make MFP your plan. Log religiously. Don't look at fats, sugars, carbs or any of that stuff right now. Focus on calories. You'll see some great newbie losses in the first couple weeks that should be motivating.2
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I think it has taken me all of my 42 years to come to what might be a simple conclusion. I think I am making this whole weight loss thing too complicated and expecting too much.
I have been on a constant "diet" since I was 14 years old. Maybe a week here or there that I can't remember when I wasn't on a "plan." I wouldn't know what to do with a day that was not consumed by thinking about food and what the rules are that I am planning to follow that day and then stressing about the fact that I messed up. I have had times that I was miserable that I didn't lose weight on diet x,y, or z but look back at those pictures now and think I would LOVE to be that size right now. I have been on EVERY diet plan. Every. Single. One. I have been know to check out 4 Diet books from the library at a time. That way after each one didn't work I had another ready to try the next Monday. I self sabotage. I binge eat in ways that my husband doesn't even know because I wait until he goes to bed and then I sneak. I have notebooks upon notebooks that have 10 or so pages in them of food logs, food rules, menu ideas. Just enough pages that after 3 weeks and not seeing the success I should I quit and move on to the next quick fix plan. Lots of wasted pages because you know you need a new notebook for a new plan on a new Monday. I'm a mess. A 42 yo, 5'6", 178 lb mess.
Reading though all of your posts has finally made me think that I really am making this too hard. That maybe trusting the MFP system and eating what I want within my calorie goals might work. That by not having so many rules, I won't deprive myself for enough days that then I binge and ruin the little progress that I do make. I just don't know how to actually trust the system. I don't know how to eat like a normal person without rules and I realize that this sounds stupid... I realize this... but it is true. I feel like I am stuck in place and can't move forward without a "plan." What I really want is a plan to make me NOT think about rules, NOT stress that I ruined my day and blew it when in actuality I ate 1600 calories (but was only supposed to eat 1200), NOT spend all of my time analyzing my previous meal and my next meal, NOT go to bed thinking over the day-- not reflecting on the good things that happened but whether or not I "did good" or will "do good" tomorrow. I don't know how to do this.
But, I am going to try... I am going to force myself to tear out the pages in the new notebook that just copied down on a new carb cycling plan not 30 minutes ago. I am going to think about what I really want to eat but just figure out how much fits into my calories limit. I have set myself to Sedentary so that I can trust my Fitbit Charge HR as it adds my 10,000 steps worth of calories and maybe eat back some of them. I might even go crazy and set my goal to 1.5 lb per week instead of 2 even though I want to lose as quickly as possible.
Whew...that feels like a weight off of my shoulders. I apologize for the long post. I think it was kind of like going to confession and I feel better for it. I wonder how it will feel to be "normal" and hope I can trust in the system. I appreciate all of the success story posters who have made me feel like this just might work.
Thanks for listening.
Have you tried Intermittent Fasting? It sounds like it meets a lot of your requirements (easy don't have to think about things as much and you can eat large meals). Easiest way by far for me to have a calorie deficit and I think there are other advantages also.0 -
Yup, it really is that simple. You've got this!1
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I understand. I was right there too! Making the fewest rules possible seems to work the best.
Once you let go of the idea that you have to be perfect and perfectly controlled to be a GOOD dieter, you can focus on making sensible livable changes to live by.
Within your calories, create your own plan. Eat sensibly, but eat what you like. Listen to the scale and you own body for guidance. No fads. No perfection. Be willing to learn and change when needed. That's all it takes.
You can do it! You have the right is easy now.3 -
I have been where you are. I have done most of the elimination diets with varying results. Personally keeping it simple works. And I am so tired of eliminating carbs, or fat, or white foods, etc. Today I had some fast food. Maybe it isn't necessarily the healthiest, but it fit in my calories and it makes me so happy to just be able to eat something without overthinking it. If you need some support, feel free to friend me.3
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Reading though all of your posts has finally made me think that I really am making this too hard.
You are absolutely correct. I remain convinced that most of these complicated diet plans, when they work at all, are really nothing but low-calorie diets in disguise. Take a high-protein, low-carb plan, for instance -- or, for that matter, any plan that has you cutting out bread and/or gluten. A decent-quality supermarket brand of whole wheat bread like Oroweat has a fairly reasonable 90 calories per slice. If, as a result of a low-carb diet, you end up not eating your formerly customary 2 slices of toast at breakfast and sandwich for lunch, that's 360 calories eliminated from your diet every day right there! Other breads might provide as much as 120 calories per slice; eliminating 4 slices per day of that gets rid of 480 calories! That alone would be enough to shift many people into a calorie deficit, even without considering additional breads we often eat like dinner rolls, cookies, biscuits, or cakes.
Best to just skip all that complicated business and get right to the heart of the matter. Calories in < calories out will result in weight loss. That's really all there is to it. Congratulations on escaping the madness inflicted by those with books to sell.
Which is the one thing I disagree with you about. It's not you who were making it too hard. A lot of people sell a lot of products by convincing you that it's harder than it is. It's not so easy to see past their nonsense.4 -
Most empowering thing I found was that I don't have to "diet" anymore. Food isn't good nor bad.
Don't complicate it. Make your "plan" about logging what you eat and staying within that goal. Maybe add walking outside for 15/30 min a "plan".
Set non weight related goals.
Often times people think they need to eat "different" foods instead of "less" food.
You've had the ah ha moment now run with it:).
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Log your food accurately and drink a lot of water.
You'll be surprised at how much you learn just by recording what you do. Once you see the record, you start thinking about it and making decisions about small changes that you can tolerate attempting to make. That's how the magic of mfp happens inside your head.3 -
Not to be insensitive but the message I am getting is...
you are obsessed with food
you are obsessed with every diet that comes out
you want to get results too fast
you mention nothing about exercise (other than having a fitbit)
what I would recommend is...
set your goal to lose no more than 1 lb. per week
stop thinking that all these diets work (if it has the word diet in it it's probably BS)
slowly change your eating habits to replace bad foods with healthy foods (1 at a time)
get the recommended amount of exercise (150 minutes a week to maintain, 300 minutes a week to improve)
stop over thinking everything
Doing it slowly helps to develop good habits over time, and if it does not become a habit, it will most likely not be successful long term.
JMO2 -
JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Log your food accurately and drink a lot of water.
You'll be surprised at how much you learn just by recording what you do. Once you see the record, you start thinking about it and making decisions about small changes that you can tolerate attempting to make. That's how the magic of mfp happens inside your head.
Good advice IMO.0 -
Maybe pre logging would work for you. Figure out what you'll eat the next day and log it. Then you'll satisfy the need to have a plan while still keeping it simple.2
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Generally love what I'm hearing except for one thing: your stats put you at a BMI of 29 with only about 30-35 lbs to lose to get well into a healthy range. 1.5 lbs/week is still very aggressive, and don't even consider 2! Along with eating within your calorie allowance, having reasonable goals and patience are also keys. You sound like you've always been in a hurry to do everything- pick a plan, start a plan, change a plan- slow down, take a deep breath, and choose a goal that will allow you to eat enough that you will find it sustainable long-term and not lead to distress, bingeing, and eventually quitting. It's not a race to get it off and then go back to eating your normal way... it's the long process of learning a new normal. But you can absolutely do it!
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We live in a tough world that makes us feel like we need to be "on trend"--and there will be plenty of people around you who eat that *kitten* up. Every one of the women in my family is SUPER into these diet trends and I used to be too until I realized that I was setting myself up for a life of unhappiness. Every time one of them says they're doing Atkins or eating a spoonful of whatever every day I want to shake them and tell them that they should just do it the right way, the way that's scientifically proven, and then they won't be constantly failing and hating themselves for it. Perpetuating these fad diets makes us all feel miserable, and I think it's a common thing for women in particular to feel shame simply for taking up space and spend a lifetime trying to fight it. I remember myself barely past puberty, thinking I needed to drink lemon juice and cayenne pepper for 10 days straight because someone in my family told me it was the way to do it. Now that I think about that, it makes me incredibly sad. I never want to promote unhealthy and unsustainable trends to young girls around me who may be paying attention.
Weight loss is hard, but there are certain things that can make it harder. Enjoy the foods you want, do the exercise you want, and love every step of the process because it's making you stronger!2 -
Hey, too much text for me to read. Just make it simple. Eat what you want as long as it fits into your calorie limit.1
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I'd also recommend a slower weight loss. I have similar stats to you - 5'5'' and starting weight of 185 lbs (now at 145 lbs,14 months later). I started with 1lb per week then switched to 0.5 lbs per week after a couple of months. The good thing about slow weight loss is a) it reduces the chance of bingeing or giving up, as it's easy to stick to and b) it teaches you a lot about maintenance, as it's very similar to maintenance. I relate to a lot of what you wrote, I also had to stop thinking about being on a diet, I just eat a bit less, and I'm never going to go off my diet for that same reason.
Good luck!4
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