Noob Question

Hello,

I would appricate some advice please. I would like to lose 15 -17 lbs. I would like to lose approximately 1 lb a week. So I set mfp to lose 1lbs a week. But I have read on the forum that if you have less than 14 lbs to lose you should set mfp to 0.5 loss a week. Why is this? I thought 1 lbs a week was relativity sensible. Also if i have a 500 cal deficit a day rather than 250 there would be more wiggle room for any logging errors.

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  • DebSozo
    DebSozo Posts: 2,578 Member
    You can try for 1 pound a week loss. But when you have less than 20 pounds to lose you are likely to slow down. Experiment and see what happens.
    :)
  • Mad_Goose
    Mad_Goose Posts: 17 Member
    Thanks for the advice guys.
  • Mad_Goose
    Mad_Goose Posts: 17 Member
    Mpf gives me 1610 calls for 1lbs and 1860 for 0.5 lbs a week. I'm going to try 1610 and see what happens. Both is okay provided I don't go below 1200 net cals?
  • Midnight100965
    Midnight100965 Posts: 3 Member
    I haven't been on the forums much so don't know the logic behind the question you asked... But what I have been doing is I put my goal for 2lbs a week (I need to lose at least 30... but 50 is my ideal) What I do is try and stay within my calorie limit which is 1200 a day. I also know the calorie requirement to keep weight steady at my 2 different goal weights... I have days that I go over... sometime 10 or 12 sometimes 2 or 300... but I balance them out and try not to go over the "Keep my weight steady" calorie limit. I have never been good a sticking to extreme diets... but this is working great for me... I have lost 15 lbs so far in 50 days. Eating the same food I always did just better proportions... and I haven't been hungry or need snacks and things... in just not "stuffed" like i used to be. Took a couple weeks to get used to that, but now I'm good. I think most of my weight problems are because I just ate too much food at each meal. I was never one for lots of sweets and chips and stuff to begin with...
  • Mad_Goose
    Mad_Goose Posts: 17 Member
    Oh sorry i should have specified. I'm a 5"1 female but I have a very active job, my fit bit records on average anything from 14 to 20 thousand steps a day depending on how busy I am.
  • Mini_Medic
    Mini_Medic Posts: 343 Member
    The slower loss is because you have less to lose overall. A really obese person can lose 3-5lbs sometimes more in a week because they have to eat way more calories to maintain the higher weight. Smaller people have less mass and need less calories to stay the same weight, so they also have less calories to cut from to diet. The recommendation is because losing more than 1% of your body weight weekly is drastic and can cause cycles of restriction and then binging/overeating because your hungry or not getting enough nutrients eating much smaller calorie allotments. Not to mention fatigue and other nasty side effects of bad skin, hair loss and no energy. For example a 300lb person can lose 3lbs a week and be fine, but a 150lb person should aim to lose only 1.5lbs a week.

    The bigger reason overall is that true fat loss is masked by overall mass loss. Your scale may show you losing 5lbs a week if you cut your calories down extremely low but you are burning some fat, but also muscle/lean mass that you don't want to lose. People tend to counter "more is better right?" But fat oxidation takes time and when your reserves are smaller because your body is smaller, that 20%body fat versus 40% BF comes into effect in that the body wants to maintain you the way you are, so it will burn off fat stores if if has to but when your smaller it wants to keep some of that for a rainy day. If you lose it rapidly the body sends hunger signals and fights you for it, where as slow and steady loss near the end zone gives your body time to adapt to you giving it less calories.
    Starvation mode doesn't exist in that you supposedly will store fat by not eating enough, it doesn't work that way. But chronically undereating stresses your body and it will show you it doesn't like it and it wants more nutrition and that's when people go back to eating more because of the body's hunger cues and they tend to gain again. This starts the yo yo diet cycle. So don't yo yo and save yourself the grief and lose those 15-17lns slowly so you can feel comfortable losing and not miserable and risk undoing all your progress by being to aggressive. Good luck!
  • jemhh
    jemhh Posts: 14,261 Member
    I would try for 1 lb to start. If, after a few weeks, you are feeling uncomfortable hunger or like you are worn down, you can back off to a half pound.

    Aiming to lose 15 lbs to get to the top of your healthy weight range can be a much different experience than losing 15 lbs with a starting weight already inside that range. The oft-repeated "lose at X rate" suggestion does not account for that. Best thing to do is experiment and adjust based on your own experience.
  • bbell1985
    bbell1985 Posts: 4,572 Member
    Sometimes getting that 1lb per week loss to start gets you motivated and helps you adhere to a diet. For some, it just stinks too much and they give up. It is really up to you. You can try for a couple weeks and see how you feel. Eventually it just won't work as you get within a healthy weight range because your TDEE may go down too low for it. For example, I maintain my new weight at 1800 calories, I'd need to eat below 1200 to lose a pound per week. That's...not happening. Nor should it.
  • DebSozo
    DebSozo Posts: 2,578 Member
    edited February 2017
    What I have seen on the forums is a suggestion or guideline of a 0.5 pound a week loss for under 20 pounds to lose, 1.0 pound a week for 20 to 50 pounds to lose, and 2 pounds a week for over 50 pounds to lose. As mentioned up thread, some people lose more at the beginning and start tapering off to an average of 1 to 2 pounds a week until getting close to the last few pounds.

    Unless you are under a doctor's care it is best not to go under 1200 calories per day average. The rationale I have read is that the average person can get enough variety of nutrients for health at that number. Often doctors and bariatric surgeons do place morbidly obese and obese patients on regimes of less calories, but they closely supervise the patients. Plus it is short term, and gradually the plan gets more balanced over time.

    The least stressful weight loss management plan when close to goal, IMO, is to determine the daily TDEE at the weight you want to be and aim for not going over that on average. It is a slow loss but trains you to eat at maintenance for your goal weight. This works best when you have only a few pounds left to go and have the goal of keeping the weight off. By the time you reach goal you will be used to the maintenance calories TDEE level and won't have to worry about adjusting down or might tweak it slightly because you are already close to there. After all, the goal is to lose weight, stabilize, and keep it off-- not to develop disordered eating or yoyo.

  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    I'm going to go against what everyone else is telling you because your activity level is so high.

    Set a custom goal that's right about a 350 calorie deficit. That will give you some wiggle room for logging errors and allow for a 250 calorie deficit. I can tell you from experience with a similar level of activity that it is VERY difficult to maintain that activity on an aggressive deficit.
  • Mad_Goose
    Mad_Goose Posts: 17 Member
    Thanks for the advice guys I really appricate it. So far I have just been making healthy choices but I crashed and burned at the end of last week and ate a load of food. So I guess I must have been eating too low callorie. So I'm going to start logging tomorrow to see how many callories I'm eating.
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    edited February 2017
    Adiemus100 wrote: »
    Thanks for the advice guys I really appricate it. So far I have just been making healthy choices but I crashed and burned at the end of last week and ate a load of food. So I guess I must have been eating too low callorie. So I'm going to start logging tomorrow to see how many callories I'm eating.

    That is exactly what happens to me when I try to keep up a similar level of activity and cut too many calories. That's why I don't think you should try to lose a pound a week.

    The only caution I have for you is that with a small deficit, you need to be really tight with your logging. Try to be as precise as possible.
  • Mad_Goose
    Mad_Goose Posts: 17 Member
    I am right in thinking I would eat back exersise calories as well as 1860? Or just 1860?
  • mumblemagic
    mumblemagic Posts: 1,090 Member
    To avoid crashing, link your fitbit account with your mfp account and eat back your exercise calories. Log accurately: weigh all your food in grams on a digital scale and measure your liquids in ml with a measuring cup. That will make sure you are neither overestimating what you eat and wiping out your deficit, nor short changing yourself.

    Set to 1 lb per week. If you can cope at that deficit, there's no reason to up your calorie limit. If you can't, drop your deficit down to 0.5 lb per week.
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    Adiemus100 wrote: »
    I am right in thinking I would eat back exersise calories as well as 1860? Or just 1860?

    Eat back at least a portion of them, yes.