Question for tall people
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SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Ya'll would be surprised what's really influenced by nutrition and environment.
Oxygen is insanely important. Vitamin D is insanely important.
For example, people born during summer months are generally taller than those born in winter months. .
I find this a little hard to believe. The variations between countries are more significant than the variations in season.
I am from Norway, and like the rest of the Scandinavian countries, it is dark and cold for a large part of the year. And people living here are among the tallest in the world.1 -
I'm 5'11", the oldest and only girl. My mom is 5'9" and my dad is 6'. My brothers are all 5'10" to 6' 2". The tallest is also the youngest. Growing up I was an extremely picky eater and wouldn't eat red meat except for the occasional hamburger and the only vegetables I liked were corn, carrots, and potatoes. I preferred pasta and hot dogs. As a teenager I survived mostly on fast food, Slim Jims, and Dr. Pepper. I was anemic and had to take iron and vitamin D supplements but I was still 5'11" by the time I was 15. So, in my case, I'm going with genetics as opposed to nutrition
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I'm 5'9 and spent my teenage years drinking 8 cokes and day and eating chocolate, chips and iced buns. That was basically all I ate. I was skinny (and anemic). So I'm going with genetics over nutrition.1
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I'm 6'4, My mom is 5'4(Her Siblings all 5'11+), dad is 5'11 and I did not and still do not eat vegetables. I grew up on lots of junk food and pop.
Fruit By the Foot
Hostess Cupcakes
Skittles
Coke
Grape Crush
Orange Crush
The only consistent thing I would eat daily would be baby carrots (Cold) at dinner. Going with Genetics over Nutrition here1 -
Jtalaskamom wrote: »I'm not sure where you read or heard that poor nutrition can stunt your growth, maybe it does if you suffer from starvation, but it is not true.
How about from pediatric endocrinologists? "Your growth-hormone deficient child has to eat more, or GH therapy won't work. We're not going to treat them until you put some weight on them." Which is entirely backward in most cases; replacing the missing hormone will make the child hungry, and they'll eat like crazy because they're growing.0 -
Unless you're starving/malnourished then your DNA determines your height potential, not the foods you eat.1
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noowaseem13579 wrote: »I am 5'9
My mom is 5'4" and my dad is 5'11"
My sister in her growing years refused to consume many food groups (no meat, fish, vegetables, whole grains, vegetables or fruit) and basically grew up on refined flour products, chips, and white rice. She is 4'10"
It's more likely that your sister had growth hormone deficiency or a genetic syndrome, than that her poor diet caused her not to grow. The expected height for your parents' female offspring would be 5'5", plus or minus 2". Your going above that to 5'9" isn't out of the ordinary, but your sister's height is way below the expected range.
Mid-parental height calculator0 -
I'm from Australia. I'm 5'10(female). My older brother is 6'3 and my younger brother is 6'6. We have the same parents. Dad was 5'11 and mum is 5'9. My older brother lived with my dad from when he was 15yo and my younger brother and I lived with mum. Older brother ate a lot of crap food, younger bro and I ate healthier not too much junk or sweets and only had meat 3 or 4 times a week. I think it's a lot more to do with genetics than anything else, I have a cousin who is 6'8, lived in a different state, his dad was the tallest of my dad's family.0
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Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
You're free to google several of the items I've mentioned if you don't believe me.
Also, "height" isn't a single gene. There's a lot that goes into determining if a person is tall or short. We're talking femurs, tibias, spine... other stuff. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on the Internet.
There's "genetic potential" and then, yes, environment comes into play.
Who your parents are, what age they are when they conceived, the frequency of children (mom's nutrient stores), the month they conceived, if it was natural or in-vitro, if mom was short (smaller women tend to have a higher likelihood of premature birth), what mom ate while pregnant, if baby was breastfed, and yes... what the child ate while growing. All of that goes into height.
Genes are often influenced by your environment.
Nutrition 100% plays a part in helping to set a child's height.
... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.0 -
It does. But not for most Americans or other Westerners for whom receiving adequate (or a surplus) of nutrition in their growing years is simply not an issue. We're not medieval peasants subsisting on barley gruel.SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
If you find a way to do that, let me know. There are a number of threads I'd like to unsub from, but I have yet to locate a way to do that.... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.1 -
I had extremely poor nutrition growing up. I do believe it played a part in my overall bone structure. Since it is quite slender for a guy who's 6ft tall, regardless though. I still grew fairly tall off of a diet that consisted of mostly fast food.1
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noowaseem13579 wrote: »Actually, all of my family members are quite short apart from my dad. The females are up to 5'4 and below, males are 5'8" and below
Actually my family went though poverty at the time my sister was growing up, we did not have enough money to afford nutritious foods and were raised by a single mother. When I was growing up, we had enough money to buy the food we needed
You seem determined to establish that you're 11" taller than your sister, and tall among your otherwise average-height* (or a little below) family, solely because of the difference in nutrition.
Certainly both nutrition and genetics play a part, as do such things as hormone levels, malabsorption syndromes, precocious puberty, and untreated chronic infection. Unless your sister was severely malnourished for a significant portion of her childhood, she likely didn't end up 4'10" just because she ate junk food.
*The average height for an American Caucasian woman is around 5'4" to 5'5"; for men, 5'9" to 5'10". Short stature is technically considered 5' or less for women, 5'5" or less for men.0 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
You're free to google several of the items I've mentioned if you don't believe me.
Also, "height" isn't a single gene. There's a lot that goes into determining if a person is tall or short. We're talking femurs, tibias, spine... other stuff. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on the Internet.
There's "genetic potential" and then, yes, environment comes into play.
Who your parents are, what age they are when they conceived, the frequency of children (mom's nutrient stores), the month they conceived, if it was natural or in-vitro, if mom was short (smaller women tend to have a higher likelihood of premature birth), what mom ate while pregnant, if baby was breastfed, and yes... what the child ate while growing. All of that goes into height.
Genes are often influenced by your environment.
Nutrition 100% plays a part in helping to set a child's height.
... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Please link to the studies that prove that breastfed babies end up taller than formula fed babies.
You can't, because its not true. In fact recent studies have shown the benefits of breast feeding have been greatly exaggerated.
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Also genetics are more complicated than just (mom + dad)/2 = kid. Dominant and recessive genes can lead to surprising results.2
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Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
You're free to google several of the items I've mentioned if you don't believe me.
Also, "height" isn't a single gene. There's a lot that goes into determining if a person is tall or short. We're talking femurs, tibias, spine... other stuff. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on the Internet.
There's "genetic potential" and then, yes, environment comes into play.
Who your parents are, what age they are when they conceived, the frequency of children (mom's nutrient stores), the month they conceived, if it was natural or in-vitro, if mom was short (smaller women tend to have a higher likelihood of premature birth), what mom ate while pregnant, if baby was breastfed, and yes... what the child ate while growing. All of that goes into height.
Genes are often influenced by your environment.
Nutrition 100% plays a part in helping to set a child's height.
... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Please link to the studies that prove that breastfed babies end up taller than formula fed babies.
You can't, because its not true. In fact recent studies have shown the benefits of breast feeding have been greatly exaggerated.
Oh yeah... Big Breastfeeding has a lot of lobbying power. Greatly inflating the studies. You should for sure trust the formula is equal studies more.
Even if you're not sold on breastfeeding, there's tons of research about skin to skin touch. (Which breastfeeding facilitates.)1 -
It does. But not for most Americans or other Westerners for whom receiving adequate (or a surplus) of nutrition in their growing years is simply not an issue. We're not medieval peasants subsisting on barley gruel.SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
If you find a way to do that, let me know. There are a number of threads I'd like to unsub from, but I have yet to locate a way to do that.... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Just unclick the star, though it'll still pop up if you get quoted. Hahaha0 -
I'm a tallish girl. Tallest girl in my family. Everyone else is short. I ate exactly the same as them. Not more or less . I don't think Diet is anything to do with height0
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I have to agree with genetics over nutrition for height potential. Case in point: I was adopted at birth and was raised with an older brother and younger sister. I grew to be 6'5, where my brother is only 5'8 and my sister is 5'4. We ate most of the same foods growing up. After learning about my birth family and their roots, I discovered I have a lot of tall relatives on my biological father's side, he has brothers and cousins that are 6'8, so the height potential is definitely coming from genetics for me.0
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