Question for tall people
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It does. But not for most Americans or other Westerners for whom receiving adequate (or a surplus) of nutrition in their growing years is simply not an issue. We're not medieval peasants subsisting on barley gruel.SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
If you find a way to do that, let me know. There are a number of threads I'd like to unsub from, but I have yet to locate a way to do that.... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.1 -
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I had extremely poor nutrition growing up. I do believe it played a part in my overall bone structure. Since it is quite slender for a guy who's 6ft tall, regardless though. I still grew fairly tall off of a diet that consisted of mostly fast food.1
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noowaseem13579 wrote: »Actually, all of my family members are quite short apart from my dad. The females are up to 5'4 and below, males are 5'8" and below
Actually my family went though poverty at the time my sister was growing up, we did not have enough money to afford nutritious foods and were raised by a single mother. When I was growing up, we had enough money to buy the food we needed
You seem determined to establish that you're 11" taller than your sister, and tall among your otherwise average-height* (or a little below) family, solely because of the difference in nutrition.
Certainly both nutrition and genetics play a part, as do such things as hormone levels, malabsorption syndromes, precocious puberty, and untreated chronic infection. Unless your sister was severely malnourished for a significant portion of her childhood, she likely didn't end up 4'10" just because she ate junk food.
*The average height for an American Caucasian woman is around 5'4" to 5'5"; for men, 5'9" to 5'10". Short stature is technically considered 5' or less for women, 5'5" or less for men.0 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
You're free to google several of the items I've mentioned if you don't believe me.
Also, "height" isn't a single gene. There's a lot that goes into determining if a person is tall or short. We're talking femurs, tibias, spine... other stuff. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on the Internet.
There's "genetic potential" and then, yes, environment comes into play.
Who your parents are, what age they are when they conceived, the frequency of children (mom's nutrient stores), the month they conceived, if it was natural or in-vitro, if mom was short (smaller women tend to have a higher likelihood of premature birth), what mom ate while pregnant, if baby was breastfed, and yes... what the child ate while growing. All of that goes into height.
Genes are often influenced by your environment.
Nutrition 100% plays a part in helping to set a child's height.
... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Please link to the studies that prove that breastfed babies end up taller than formula fed babies.
You can't, because its not true. In fact recent studies have shown the benefits of breast feeding have been greatly exaggerated.
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Also genetics are more complicated than just (mom + dad)/2 = kid. Dominant and recessive genes can lead to surprising results.2
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Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
You're free to google several of the items I've mentioned if you don't believe me.
Also, "height" isn't a single gene. There's a lot that goes into determining if a person is tall or short. We're talking femurs, tibias, spine... other stuff. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on the Internet.
There's "genetic potential" and then, yes, environment comes into play.
Who your parents are, what age they are when they conceived, the frequency of children (mom's nutrient stores), the month they conceived, if it was natural or in-vitro, if mom was short (smaller women tend to have a higher likelihood of premature birth), what mom ate while pregnant, if baby was breastfed, and yes... what the child ate while growing. All of that goes into height.
Genes are often influenced by your environment.
Nutrition 100% plays a part in helping to set a child's height.
... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Please link to the studies that prove that breastfed babies end up taller than formula fed babies.
You can't, because its not true. In fact recent studies have shown the benefits of breast feeding have been greatly exaggerated.
Oh yeah... Big Breastfeeding has a lot of lobbying power. Greatly inflating the studies. You should for sure trust the formula is equal studies more.
Even if you're not sold on breastfeeding, there's tons of research about skin to skin touch. (Which breastfeeding facilitates.)1 -
It does. But not for most Americans or other Westerners for whom receiving adequate (or a surplus) of nutrition in their growing years is simply not an issue. We're not medieval peasants subsisting on barley gruel.SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
If you find a way to do that, let me know. There are a number of threads I'd like to unsub from, but I have yet to locate a way to do that.... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Just unclick the star, though it'll still pop up if you get quoted. Hahaha0 -
I'm a tallish girl. Tallest girl in my family. Everyone else is short. I ate exactly the same as them. Not more or less . I don't think Diet is anything to do with height0
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I have to agree with genetics over nutrition for height potential. Case in point: I was adopted at birth and was raised with an older brother and younger sister. I grew to be 6'5, where my brother is only 5'8 and my sister is 5'4. We ate most of the same foods growing up. After learning about my birth family and their roots, I discovered I have a lot of tall relatives on my biological father's side, he has brothers and cousins that are 6'8, so the height potential is definitely coming from genetics for me.0
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Here's what I'm concerned about.
Genetics isn't the end all be all.
People should feed their children nutritious food so they can live up to their genetic POTENTIAL.
If your child eats food low of protein there's a chance that child won't hit their full potential height.
Yes... nutrition plays a part.
All the stories about so-and-so's height and such-and-such's height means nothing.0 -
Agreed. That word "potential" is key. If you don't have the genes for it, you can't grow by nutrition alone. If you do have the genes, your height can still be stunted by poor nutrition.1
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noowaseem13579 wrote: »I wanted to ask, in your growing years, did you eat a lot and get hungry often? What foods did you eat generally to grow tall?
I know it has to do with genetics, but nutrition plays a part in it.
Poor nutrition can also stunt growth.
6'7. Ate junk food, mostly.0 -
Both my sister and I are 5"8, brother is 6"1 and Dad was 6"2, and mum 5"6. I often wonder what i did wrong with my daughter, she is the shortest in my family at 5"2 (I blame her fathers side lol, none of whom are over 5"10), my son is 6" though, so who knows. My daughter is her fathers mini me, and my son resembles me. There are no shorties on my side of the family (German heritage).
Growing up was veggies every single night, loads of fruit, lean meat. No packet foods other than breakfast cereal, we used to drink loads of milk, and i still do. Take out was maybe once a month or longer. If i had to label my childhood diet, it would veer heavily toward "clean eating".1 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »
It does. But not for most Americans or other Westerners for whom receiving adequate (or a surplus) of nutrition in their growing years is simply not an issue. We're not medieval peasants subsisting on barley gruel.SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
If you find a way to do that, let me know. There are a number of threads I'd like to unsub from, but I have yet to locate a way to do that.... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Just unclick the star, though it'll still pop up if you get quoted. Hahaha
Can't unclick the star if the star wasn't clicked to begin with. You just get notified on all threads you've ever replied to, whether you click the star or not.0 -
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SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »
It does. But not for most Americans or other Westerners for whom receiving adequate (or a surplus) of nutrition in their growing years is simply not an issue. We're not medieval peasants subsisting on barley gruel.SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
If you find a way to do that, let me know. There are a number of threads I'd like to unsub from, but I have yet to locate a way to do that.... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Just unclick the star, though it'll still pop up if you get quoted. Hahaha
Can't unclick the star if the star wasn't clicked to begin with. You just get notified on all threads you've ever replied to, whether you click the star or not.
I turned off notifications for all threads I've responded to. Then I click the star for the ones I actually want to follow up on.
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SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
You're free to google several of the items I've mentioned if you don't believe me.
Also, "height" isn't a single gene. There's a lot that goes into determining if a person is tall or short. We're talking femurs, tibias, spine... other stuff. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on the Internet.
There's "genetic potential" and then, yes, environment comes into play.
Who your parents are, what age they are when they conceived, the frequency of children (mom's nutrient stores), the month they conceived, if it was natural or in-vitro, if mom was short (smaller women tend to have a higher likelihood of premature birth), what mom ate while pregnant, if baby was breastfed, and yes... what the child ate while growing. All of that goes into height.
Genes are often influenced by your environment.
Nutrition 100% plays a part in helping to set a child's height.
... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Please link to the studies that prove that breastfed babies end up taller than formula fed babies.
You can't, because its not true. In fact recent studies have shown the benefits of breast feeding have been greatly exaggerated.
Oh yeah... Big Breastfeeding has a lot of lobbying power. Greatly inflating the studies. You should for sure trust the formula is equal studies more.
Even if you're not sold on breastfeeding, there's tons of research about skin to skin touch. (Which breastfeeding facilitates.)
Who said I'm not 'sold on breast feeding'? I just asked you to back up your ludicrous assertion that breast fed babies are taller than formula fed babies. And unsurprisingly you can't. Please think before you type.0 -
Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
You're free to google several of the items I've mentioned if you don't believe me.
Also, "height" isn't a single gene. There's a lot that goes into determining if a person is tall or short. We're talking femurs, tibias, spine... other stuff. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on the Internet.
There's "genetic potential" and then, yes, environment comes into play.
Who your parents are, what age they are when they conceived, the frequency of children (mom's nutrient stores), the month they conceived, if it was natural or in-vitro, if mom was short (smaller women tend to have a higher likelihood of premature birth), what mom ate while pregnant, if baby was breastfed, and yes... what the child ate while growing. All of that goes into height.
Genes are often influenced by your environment.
Nutrition 100% plays a part in helping to set a child's height.
... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Please link to the studies that prove that breastfed babies end up taller than formula fed babies.
You can't, because its not true. In fact recent studies have shown the benefits of breast feeding have been greatly exaggerated.
Oh yeah... Big Breastfeeding has a lot of lobbying power. Greatly inflating the studies. You should for sure trust the formula is equal studies more.
Even if you're not sold on breastfeeding, there's tons of research about skin to skin touch. (Which breastfeeding facilitates.)
Who said I'm not 'sold on breast feeding'? I just asked you to back up your ludicrous assertion that breast fed babies are taller than formula fed babies. And unsurprisingly you can't. Please think before you type.
Btw... I did qualify that statement with "if". Peace and love.
Here are studies:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8005095/?i=6&from=/19036567/related
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16830613/?i=3&from=/19036567/related
Somewhere in there they talk about breastfeeding and height.
Feel free to read.
Plenty of info in reference articles as well. If not satisfactory, then... eh. Oh well.
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SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »
It does. But not for most Americans or other Westerners for whom receiving adequate (or a surplus) of nutrition in their growing years is simply not an issue. We're not medieval peasants subsisting on barley gruel.SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
If you find a way to do that, let me know. There are a number of threads I'd like to unsub from, but I have yet to locate a way to do that.... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Just unclick the star, though it'll still pop up if you get quoted. Hahaha
Can't unclick the star if the star wasn't clicked to begin with. You just get notified on all threads you've ever replied to, whether you click the star or not.
@ccsernica I've switched off ALL notifications, and click on the star if i want to follow a thread. I once made the mistake of replying to one of those 50,000,000 page chitchat threads that just would not die! So i cancelled notifications and never bothered switching them back on. If i'm no longer interested in a thread, i click the star to stop notifications of that particular thread.1 -
SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Heartisalonelyhunter wrote: »SierraFatToSkinny wrote: »Everyone... nutrition definitely plays a part.
You're free to google several of the items I've mentioned if you don't believe me.
Also, "height" isn't a single gene. There's a lot that goes into determining if a person is tall or short. We're talking femurs, tibias, spine... other stuff. I'm not a doctor, I just play one on the Internet.
There's "genetic potential" and then, yes, environment comes into play.
Who your parents are, what age they are when they conceived, the frequency of children (mom's nutrient stores), the month they conceived, if it was natural or in-vitro, if mom was short (smaller women tend to have a higher likelihood of premature birth), what mom ate while pregnant, if baby was breastfed, and yes... what the child ate while growing. All of that goes into height.
Genes are often influenced by your environment.
Nutrition 100% plays a part in helping to set a child's height.
... I'm now going to unsubscribe from this thread as the anecdotal evidence is driving me a tad bit nutty.
Please link to the studies that prove that breastfed babies end up taller than formula fed babies.
You can't, because its not true. In fact recent studies have shown the benefits of breast feeding have been greatly exaggerated.
Oh yeah... Big Breastfeeding has a lot of lobbying power. Greatly inflating the studies. You should for sure trust the formula is equal studies more.
Even if you're not sold on breastfeeding, there's tons of research about skin to skin touch. (Which breastfeeding facilitates.)
Who said I'm not 'sold on breast feeding'? I just asked you to back up your ludicrous assertion that breast fed babies are taller than formula fed babies. And unsurprisingly you can't. Please think before you type.
Btw... I did qualify that statement with "if". Peace and love.
Here are studies:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/8005095/?i=6&from=/19036567/related
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16830613/?i=3&from=/19036567/related
Somewhere in there they talk about breastfeeding and height.
Feel free to read.
Plenty of info in reference articles as well. If not satisfactory, then... eh. Oh well.
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Those studies concern Kids in Kenya, Egypt and the CR (where breast feeding is the safest option due to water supplies ). I'm not anti-breastfeeding. What I am against is people who make ludicrous claims to back up their personal views.
As I said, the most recent study found no difference in outcomes between siblings (because that takes care of other influencing factors) http://researchnews.osu.edu/archive/sibbreast.htm
Oh and I have 5 kids. The 3 formula fed ones are much taller than the breast fed ones.0 -
My husband is 6'1". His ex-wife is 4'11". I'm 5'10". I've raised my stepson since he was a toddler. He is now 20 and is 5'5". My bio-kids are on track to be 5'10-6'2". Same foods. Same environment. Different genetics.
I know a woman who has 3 kids by 3 different men. All three fathers are average height or taller; the mother is at most 5'1". The two older kids were both diagnosed with growth hormone deficiency. Number 3, the "bonus" baby, was born healthy, at 40 weeks...weighing barely 5 lbs. She's about to turn 2, and she's still tiny. Doesn't matter how well they're feeding her, genetics has the upper hand here.0 -
On the other hand, the shortest adult I know was adopted as an infant out of Beirut around 1986. She had a milk allergy, but the orphanage had only milk-based formula to feed her, so she was extremely malnourished from the time she was born until her adoptive parents brought her home. She has significant physical and developmental delays, and even now that she is in her thirties she still looks like a small child.
That's an extreme case of course, and not the sort of thing anyone in the United States is likely to experience, but it can happen.1
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