Help! What diet is best??

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  • deneenae
    deneenae Posts: 97 Member
    edited February 2017
    No food is a bad food except straight margarine or crisco (because of the trans fat... there is no redeeming quality about trans fat). They (as in food companies) have been getting better at reducing the trans fat with their chemistry mumbo-jumbo, tho. haha!

    And you really can't argue that cake is "healthier" than wholesome foods. The level of health in a certain is determined by it's nutrient density. Wholesome foods have tons of vitamins, minerals, fiber, etc while cake doesn't. If you want to argue that a certain amount of cake is the same calories as certain amount of fruits, then ok. Calories are calories, just a measure of energy provided. It's fine if you want to eat at deficit in the form of cake/processed foods if your sole goal is to lose weight, but to claim it's just as healthy as wholesome foods is a far-reaching claim.

    If you want long-term health and a properly functioning body, I'd recommend cake and other processed foods in moderation with wholesome foods as your everyday foods. Limiting fast food is a do-able thing to undertake to avoid extra calories and that is why people recommend that strategy. It's a legitimate strategy. I didn't see anywhere in kaizaku's post to avoid certain foods. He was recommending moderation. It seems like you guys are debating over the same thing with the same end-goal, but somehow it's just not bridging.
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  • deneenae
    deneenae Posts: 97 Member
    edited February 2017
    @Look_Its_Kriss I appreciate your experience and your enthusiasm to help others, However, I take a broader look at nutrition and health rather than focusing on CICO, so that's where my posts come from. I've met many "skinny/normal BMI" persons who drink a 12-pack of soda a day and are diagnosed with everything under the sun... diabetes, heart disease, metabolic syndrome... etc. I'm sure they are taking in enough calories in soda to maintain their body weight, but isn't there room for improvement?

    And I agree; personalizing debate is poor form. We can debate in a respectful manner without resorting to bashing. MFP should be a safe place.
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  • MadDogParty
    MadDogParty Posts: 18 Member
    US News has a pretty good synopsis of top diets:

    http://www.usnews.com/info/blogs/press-room/articles/2017-01-04/us-news-reveals-best-diets-rankings-for-2017

    My qualifications/expertise to give advice = None. I spent my entire adult life eating what I wanted in excess and got huge. Last 4+ months due to some personal goals (I need to get in shape to enjoy early retirement and take care of a sick loved one) have lost 40 pounds. This doesn't make me an expert but I do have an opinion.

    My opinion: Determine if you have any specific goals. If your goal is Just weight loss than CI/CO works. If your goals include other things (training for sport, health, etc) there may be more appropriate food lifestyles for you.

    In my case I have heart disease, diabetes and dementia running in my family and am blessed to have no symptoms/indications yet so I have adopted a real/clean/whole (what ever the label is) food diet (my own interpretation of Mediterranean, Dash and Mind diets) to increase my chances of staying healthy. I keep it flexible and not to stringent to increase my chance of success and with in this framework watch CI/CO closely to lose weight.

    I agree making sure what ever you do is not to stringent and fits in your lifestyle while meeting your goals is the best option.
  • Sheisinlove109
    Sheisinlove109 Posts: 516 Member
    No diet. Eat right, drink right, exercise and sleep well. Done.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    I agree with everyone. The diet that works best for you may not work best for everybody else.

    For me, a celiac with other autoimmune issues, and insulin resistance that is not obesity linked, a diet that is gluten free and very low carb high fat is the healthiest diet. I have yet to find another woe that improves my health and helps me lose weight like a ketogenic diet that is based on whole foods.

    Others thrive on moderation. That woe was slowly killing me. Everyone needs to find their own path.
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  • ajoseph5
    ajoseph5 Posts: 25 Member
    The best diet is the one that will be a lifestyle change for you that you can do long term.
  • richardgavel
    richardgavel Posts: 1,001 Member
    PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »
    Oh wait. That's the Outback Steakhouse slogan. How many calories in a bloomin' onion?

    Trust me, you REALLY don't want to know.
  • brichards_
    brichards_ Posts: 113 Member
    I stand for veganism :)
  • Xvapor
    Xvapor Posts: 1,643 Member
    brichards_ wrote: »
    I stand for veganism :)

    That's healthy
  • CynthiasChoice
    CynthiasChoice Posts: 1,047 Member
    My advice is to try eating the same way you would feed your four year old child (if you had one!) You would give the child healthy things in the right proportions, and say "no" to unhealthy foods, save for the occasional treat. Even if the child threw a tantrum and cried, you would hold firm to a sensible diet of healthy foods. Even if the child didn't like fruits or vegetables, you would encourage him/her to try a little bit at every meal. You would provide water or milk to drink, not juice or soda (or vodka lol!)

    We need to love ourselves in the same respectful and disciplined way that we love our children.

    While eating at a calorie deficit will cause weight loss, you may experience hunger or cravings so frequently that you're stressing out your will power. If that happens, you may want to try low carb to see if that eliminates the problem. It's not right for everyone, and for years I resisted trying it because it sounded too extreme. Once I finally decided to experiment with low carb, I got what all the fuss was about. My obsession over food was gone, like someone flipped a switch in my brain. Sometimes I even have to make myself eat more at the end of the day.
  • Matt200goal
    Matt200goal Posts: 481 Member
    I'm trying to adopt & maintain the attitude below:

    Eat - to fuel the machine (right amount & "types" - while also enjoying it) in order to Train (to meet my specific goals)

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  • PaulaWallaDingDong
    PaulaWallaDingDong Posts: 4,645 Member
    brichards_ wrote: »
    I stand for veganism :)

    Last I checked, veganism wasn't really a diet.
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