How many calories do I really need?

utomjordingen
utomjordingen Posts: 20 Member
edited November 16 in Health and Weight Loss
I hope this is the right part of the forum I'm posting this.

I lost 30 kilos a few years back, and developed and ED which caused me years of a starvation diet. But now I've started eating a lot and gained from 39 kg to 48kg in no time (I'm 158cm tall, so it is not a very low weight).

Every page I check, as well as myfitnesspal, says I need about 1400-1600calories to maintain my weight, which I'm not really doing anyway (it seems that I keep gaining.) I just find myself hungry all the time when I eat this amount (my hunger came back a while ago.)
Yet I see my friends, even the ones that are not that much taller than me, eating bigger breakfasts, lunch, dinners and desserts and junk than me, which can not be just 1600 calories, and they are skinny.

I just don't understand it and I am very frustrated with my situation. I hope I can get some help here. Thank you!

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  • robs_ready
    robs_ready Posts: 1,488 Member
    I hope this is the right part of the forum I'm posting this.

    I lost 30 kilos a few years back, and developed and ED which caused me years of a starvation diet. But now I've started eating a lot and gained from 39 kg to 48kg in no time (I'm 158cm tall, so it is not a very low weight).

    Every page I check, as well as myfitnesspal, says I need about 1400-1600calories to maintain my weight, which I'm not really doing anyway (it seems that I keep gaining.) I just find myself hungry all the time when I eat this amount (my hunger came back a while ago.)
    Yet I see my friends, even the ones that are not that much taller than me, eating bigger breakfasts, lunch, dinners and desserts and junk than me, which can not be just 1600 calories, and they are skinny.

    I just don't understand it and I am very frustrated with my situation. I hope I can get some help here. Thank you!

    How many calories are you eating a day? Are you exerisising?

    1600 carries a day seems pretty good based on your height.
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    Your weight is pretty low, albeit in a normal BMI range.

    Don't worry about what others are eating. They may be quite active. If you're still working with your treatment team, speak with them about your feelings.
  • utomjordingen
    utomjordingen Posts: 20 Member
    I try to stay at about 1600 but I often get hungry and eat a bit more. I find myself gaining even faster when I eat "real food" so lately I've been having more sweets stuff instead, but it shouldn't matter if you go by "a calorie is a calorie"
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    Stick to eating 1600 calories for 4-6 weeks, give your body time to adjust.

    I don't have much knowledge on eating disorders, and I'm a bit worried about giving you any further advice incase I say the wrong thing.
  • Mini_Medic
    Mini_Medic Posts: 343 Member
    Losing and gaining and cycling can wreck havoc on your muscle/fat balance. Muscle gain is slow and harder for women and when you rapidly gain weight a lot of it is fat and rapidly losing causes more muscle to be broken down. Higher muscle mass in your body yields more active tissue that burns more calories at rest. If your body is low in muscle and high in fat from diet cycling highs and lows you won't have the same muscle mass as someone the same size who didn't lose and gain often. Someone with say, 20 more lbs of muscle than you, will burn (just an arbitrary number for example) 200 more calories a day doing nothing. Whereas you might weigh the same scale wise, your 20 lbs might be fat and theirs is muscle. So their body will be tighter and "toned" because of the muscle instead of looser and soft. Their body would need more calories to maintain the additional muscle mass that they have.

    I think the worst part of EDs is that people recover and they have to face the reality that gaining weight for them will likely be fast and be largely fat gain at first. It's just how the body reacts to long term restriction. Your body turns on hunger signals demanding nutrients and once you want to be healthy again and start eating more food you will probably overeat because of your body's cues to make up for the damage from not eating enough. Overeating celery will do the same thing as overeating cupcakes so it can't be helped when the body demands food/energy/sustinence. That's why recovered people are horrified when they gain back 20 lbs and they look bloated and puffy because it's not easy to regain muscle but it is easy to store fat when you start eating again. Especially when their body was likely small before but wasn't healthy and lean (I.e. Low body fat% with a healthy amount of muscle) it was likely low body fat% and low muscle% and so they end up looking worse at the same weight they used to be at because of lost muscle. This is terrible when the body dismorphia kicks in and is why so many struggle with recovery.

    I would eat the recommended calories and try to do heavy lifting to preserve your muscle and hopefully gain some more. Even if you have to eat at maintenance calories try it with the lifting, you will probably be very happy with the results. The more muscle you have the more you can eat!
  • PAV8888
    PAV8888 Posts: 14,242 Member
    edited February 2017
    I really would talk with your treatment team because there are phases where you might actually NEED to eat more and gain both weight and fat before stabilising.

    Your BMI is current barely above 19, which is at the absolute lowest part of the normal weight range.

    From the little I know about ED, a number of important brain chemical changes necessary for recovery require you to actually have sufficient fat and hormones.

    Many refeed protocols seem to suggest a BMI of 22 as the recovery phase endpoint, certainly I haven't heard of any that don't consider you in danger at BMIs below 20.

    Once you are stable and at a stable BMI and most ED issues have resolved, then you can start thinking about optimization.

    Just my take.
  • TimothyFish
    TimothyFish Posts: 4,925 Member
    I'm eating about 3,000 calories per day to maintain my weight of 205 lbs.
  • LessCookiess
    LessCookiess Posts: 538 Member
    Please consult with a medical professional since your past history also included an ED a professional should discuss calorie goals with you such as a primary care doctor or a nutritionist.
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