Alternate Day Fasting... Have you done it?

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  • buglesalmoncatgirl
    buglesalmoncatgirl Posts: 43 Member
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    Oh interesting side note! For people worried about lean muscle, please read this excerpt from The Every Other Day Diet by Dr. Krista Varady and Bill Gottlieb:

    Dieters lost fat, not muscle. Our EOD dieters also lost most of their weight as fat—11.9 pounds, on average, meaning that they shed only a few ounces of muscle. Losing fat rather than muscle is crucial in successful weight loss, because muscle burns calories. A typical dieter on other plans sheds 75% of her weight as fat and 25% as muscle; the typical EOD dieter sheds nearly all of her weight as fat. That’s probably one reason why my subsequent studies have shown that EOD dieters, unlike most other dieters, don’t regain the weight they lose.


  • TeaBea
    TeaBea Posts: 14,517 Member
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    Oh interesting side note! For people worried about lean muscle, please read this excerpt from The Every Other Day Diet by Dr. Krista Varady and Bill Gottlieb:

    Dieters lost fat, not muscle. Our EOD dieters also lost most of their weight as fat—11.9 pounds, on average, meaning that they shed only a few ounces of muscle. Losing fat rather than muscle is crucial in successful weight loss, because muscle burns calories. A typical dieter on other plans sheds 75% of her weight as fat and 25% as muscle; the typical EOD dieter sheds nearly all of her weight as fat. That’s probably one reason why my subsequent studies have shown that EOD dieters, unlike most other dieters, don’t regain the weight they lose.

    Maybe........

    How was this measured? How many people in this study? Did they have good genetics, or personal trainers (who knows). There are a number of factors for helping to keep more lean muscle mass: moderate deficit, adequate protein, and progressive strength training.
  • buglesalmoncatgirl
    buglesalmoncatgirl Posts: 43 Member
    edited March 2017
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    Preceding that excerpt, she cites a 2009 American Journal of Clinical Nutrition study, if you'd like take a look. here is the link to that study: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/90/5/1138

    The book is pretty fascinating. I will probably read it over again.
  • endlessfall16
    endlessfall16 Posts: 932 Member
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    I am kinda doing that "The Every Other Day Diet" but my diet days are grouped together, Monday to first half of Thursday and they happen to be noneventful time. :) I didn't start out like this but kept adjusting over months and now it becomes exactly 50/50 between fasting/eating light and eating freely as you put.

  • buglesalmoncatgirl
    buglesalmoncatgirl Posts: 43 Member
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    How cool! If it works for you, then hey, power to ya! :)
  • happysherri
    happysherri Posts: 1,360 Member
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    I don't follow a low day high day. However I do intermittent fasting about 3 times a week. Example: I ate last night by 6pm and then didn't eat breakfast until about 9:30am; fasting for about 15 hours. I broke through my plateau since starting this.
  • buglesalmoncatgirl
    buglesalmoncatgirl Posts: 43 Member
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    *follow up note*

    Eating 500 calories is totally hard! I did not make it through the day. (Fail.)
    That said, I still want to try... I will try the 5:2 diet. Seems like it's less challenging than the EOD.

    I think there is an active group in the community that follows it and I could use the inspiration.
  • HM2206
    HM2206 Posts: 174 Member
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    What are you guys eating for the fasting days?

    I will make Sunday my fast days, and figured I might make it into a complete 'cleanse' (no meat, alcohol, processed etc.).
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
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    *follow up note*

    Eating 500 calories is totally hard! I did not make it through the day. (Fail.)
    That said, I still want to try... I will try the 5:2 diet. Seems like it's less challenging than the EOD.

    I think there is an active group in the community that follows it and I could use the inspiration.

    Only the first couple of weeks are hard, as you fast more fast days become much easier.
  • amusedmonkey
    amusedmonkey Posts: 10,330 Member
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    HM2206 wrote: »
    What are you guys eating for the fasting days?

    I will make Sunday my fast days, and figured I might make it into a complete 'cleanse' (no meat, alcohol, processed etc.).

    I eat basic meals that are low in fat (because fat is the worst thing for my personal hunger). My typical meal contains some kind of starch, some kind of lean protein and lots and lots of vegetables. Many days I have predominantly starchy meals like bean or lentil meals because starch is the most filling to me. Vegetables give the meal volume so that's a staple too. I use low calorie broth based soups (about 40-50 calories per cup) to bump the volume even more. My meals are typically 1 calorie per gram or under.

    A meal may look like this:
    This chicken for 200 calories: http://www.skinnytaste.com/chicken-with-roasted-tomato-and-red/
    200 grams of broccoli with lemon juice and garlic for 70 calories
    180 grams of roasted potatoes for 160 calories

    That's a little under 1.5 pounds of food for 450 calories. This leaves me with 350 calories for a second meal (I do 800 calorie fast days).

    My second meal may be this: http://food52.com/recipes/20441-aloo-gobi-a-dry-indian-curry-of-cauliflower-potato-peas
    Has about 350 calories per pound of food.

    ETA: I understand that most people don't do 800 calorie fast days so here are some other ideas with low approximate calories per gram to pair with your favorite dishes:

    http://www.skinnytaste.com/mexican-cauliflower-rice/ - 0.35 calories per gram

    http://thymeandtoast.com/eggplant-chickpea-tomato-casserole/ - 0.6 calories per gram
    http://www.delish.com/cooking/recipe-ideas/recipes/a45366/buffalo-roasted-cauliflower-recipe/ - 0.4 calories per gram

    http://www.bhg.com/recipe/soups/lemony-lentil-soup-with-greens/ - 0.5 calories per gram

    http://ahealthylifeforme.com/eggplant-meatballs-in-marinara/ - 0.3 calories per gram

    http://precisionnutrition.com/encyclopedia/food/anchovies/ - 0.55 calories per gram if you reduce the oil
  • ljgalligan
    ljgalligan Posts: 1 Member
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    This is great. I think I will try it. I'm going for the EOD version, but I will definitely track calories on both the diet day (500 cal) and the feast day (I'll cap that one at 2000 cal). Wish me luck!

    In my experience, this diet is challenging for the first week or two and then just becomes routine. I lost about 2 pounds a week. One problem is that it can trigger binging in susceptible people so you may want to keep an eye out for that. There is a Facebook page for the every other day diet.
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    edited March 2017
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    How do you guys do this? I would have to hibernate completely on low cal days if I tried this - like stay in bed the whole day. I would turn into a hangry beast and murder everyone in sight! If I go too long without food, first I get really cranky, then I get foggy-brained and confused, then I get low blood sugar and feel nauseous, anxious and sweaty. If I don't eat soon after that, I faint. Been like that since I was a little kid in school. I'm not diabetic or insulin resistant, either. Just always have had lower than normal blood sugar on screenings - fasted or not. I guess fasting isn't for everyone. IF does sound kinda cool if you can hack it, though. :)

    ETA: It just occurred to me that I would be the first one to die in a famine. I'm already skinny, and I can't handle fasting. That's a crappy adaptation. I guess I'm an evolutionary failure.
  • HM2206
    HM2206 Posts: 174 Member
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    jenilla1 wrote: »
    How do you guys do this? I would have to hibernate completely on low cal days if I tried this - like stay in bed the whole day. I would turn into a hangry beast and murder everyone in sight! If I go too long without food, first I get really cranky, then I get foggy-brained and confused, then I get low blood sugar and feel nauseous, anxious and sweaty. If I don't eat soon after that, I faint. Been like that since I was a little kid in school. I'm not diabetic or insulin resistant, either. Just always have had lower than normal blood sugar on screenings - fasted or not. I guess fasting isn't for everyone. IF does sound kinda cool if you can hack it, though. :)

    ETA: It just occurred to me that I would be the first one to die in a famine. I'm already skinny, and I can't handle fasting. That's a crappy adaptation. I guess I'm an evolutionary failure.

    I'm doing this today, and it's hard. I can tell I won't be able to stick to 500 cals.

    But I ate waay too much last night, so at the very least I want to 'erase' some of that today.

    One thing I'm trying is to have cups of tea in between, plus make things like hot soup that takes a while too eat.
  • buglesalmoncatgirl
    buglesalmoncatgirl Posts: 43 Member
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    I got through a successful fast day yesterday.
    It was not nearly as hard for me as the previous attempt. I think what helped was meal planning and, for my unique preferences, getting in some fats! Clearly it's different for different folks. My fast day consisted of water, coffee (black or sweetened with Splenda and a little small measured amount of milk or almond breeze), tea (same as coffee), sugar free jello, rice cakes, peanut butter, and low calorie tortilla.

    All added up to 590.

    I'm aiming for 500-600 on fast days and, since I'm only doing two per week, the remaining days are not to go above my TDEE. I'm actually aiming for 1400-1500 on the remaining days.

    You can do it!
    Ultimately what the consensus seems to be amidst professionals is to find something that works for you, be it daily traditional reduced calorie diets or intermittent fasting, etc.

    Once you find your sweet spot, your golden!
  • jelleigh
    jelleigh Posts: 743 Member
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    I did 5:2 for a bit and had some great success on it. Im just taking a break from it right now but I think it will be how I maintain the the future (on a 6:1 schedule)
    I would always skip breakfast, wait as Kate as possible and have a can of tuna mixed with a tbsp of homemade salsa. I drink a lot of soda water (makes you feel fuller) . Then at dinner I would have chicken and a lot of veggies. I didn't find it too bad actually. But some days for down reason were easier than others. Don't get too discouraged if it takes a bit to get Into it.
  • buglesalmoncatgirl
    buglesalmoncatgirl Posts: 43 Member
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    Only the first couple of weeks are hard, as you fast more fast days become much easier.

    Thanks! Yes that's what I've been hearing. Feeling better about it now. :)
  • buglesalmoncatgirl
    buglesalmoncatgirl Posts: 43 Member
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    jelleigh wrote: »
    I did 5:2 for a bit and had some great success on it. ... Don't get too discouraged if it takes a bit to get Into it.
    ljgalligan wrote: »
    In my experience, this diet is challenging for the first week or two and then just becomes routine. I lost about 2 pounds a week. One problem is that it can trigger binging in susceptible people so you may want to keep an eye out for that. There is a Facebook page for the every other day diet.


    Thanks, you guys! :)
  • HM2206
    HM2206 Posts: 174 Member
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    I got through a successful fast day yesterday.
    It was not nearly as hard for me as the previous attempt. I think what helped was meal planning and, for my unique preferences, getting in some fats! Clearly it's different for different folks. My fast day consisted of water, coffee (black or sweetened with Splenda and a little small measured amount of milk or almond breeze), tea (same as coffee), sugar free jello, rice cakes, peanut butter, and low calorie tortilla.

    All added up to 590.

    I'm aiming for 500-600 on fast days and, since I'm only doing two per week, the remaining days are not to go above my TDEE. I'm actually aiming for 1400-1500 on the remaining days.

    You can do it!
    Ultimately what the consensus seems to be amidst professionals is to find something that works for you, be it daily traditional reduced calorie diets or intermittent fasting, etc.

    Once you find your sweet spot, your golden!

    I ended up at 800 calories total yesterday - not quite what I hoped for, but still a low calorie day.

    The sugar free jello is a great idea, it's not common here but I'll try to make it.

    Are you going to keep your fasting days to the weekend or do weekdays too? I think it'll be harder when you spend the day at work.
  • austinsneeze
    austinsneeze Posts: 222 Member
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    bump, I've started ADF again. I actually have premium, so I'm able to track my calories per day without too much hassle.
  • austinsneeze
    austinsneeze Posts: 222 Member
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    Is anyone still doing this? How are the results?