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Zephrine
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It could just be me being incredibly thick lol
It's for sachet coffee. Label says a 16g serving (which is a sachet) is 302kj. Then it says "per 100ml as prepared" is 180kj. But the only thing you add to the sachet is 150ml hot water. So how is it that the prepared coffee has less calories than the dry sachet? Even if you add on an extra 50 ml to the "as prepared" that would still only be 270kj for basically the same thing.
Am I stupid? Does adding water make the calories lower? lol
It's for sachet coffee. Label says a 16g serving (which is a sachet) is 302kj. Then it says "per 100ml as prepared" is 180kj. But the only thing you add to the sachet is 150ml hot water. So how is it that the prepared coffee has less calories than the dry sachet? Even if you add on an extra 50 ml to the "as prepared" that would still only be 270kj for basically the same thing.
Am I stupid? Does adding water make the calories lower? lol
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Following because yeah, wth? I really wanna see who works this out and how.1
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Maybe if you eat the sachet contents there's more calories than when you just infuse it with water?
Is the 100ml prepared using the entire sachet or does one sachet make more than one 100ml serving? Otherwise, I've got nothin'!
ETA you already answered the 100ml serving question. Reading comprehension not so good today!0 -
I would interpret that the calorie-containing ingredients aren't fully dissolving into the water. Some is remaining behind in the sachet.
ETA: Hang on - is that a sachet like a tea bag where you steep and remove or like a packet of hot cocoa that you dump in and dissolve? Because my comment only makes sense if it's the former.0 -
Oh wait, i get it. How many ml are you suposed to mix each packet into?1
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Lol Guess I was late.0
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A serving (16g of the mix with water) is intended to be more than 100 ml, so the "per 100 ml" (less than half a cup) is just required labelling (some places require that all nutrition labels have "per 100g" or "per 100ml" info for easy comparisons.
In practice, this would be preparing the mix as instructed (with closer to 175ml of water than 100ml, I'm guessing from the math) and then taking a 100ml portion of it for that second measurement.4 -
It's a sachet you empty into the cup. And you add 150mls of water to it. I know there's not a huge amount of difference calories wise, but it had me abit confused.A serving (16g of the mix with water) is intended to be more than 100 ml, so the "per 100 ml" (less than half a cup) is just required labelling (some places require that all nutrition labels have "per 100g" or "per 100ml" info for easy comparisons.
In practice, this would be preparing the mix as instructed (with closer to 175ml of water than 100ml, I'm guessing from the math) and then taking a 100ml portion of it for that second measurement.
But the instructions say to use 150ml of water, not 175, so therefore they should be basing their amounts on "as prepared - 150mls water", not "as prepared - roughly whatever water you want to add to make it up.
The part that really confuses me though is that it shouldnt matter if you use 100mls of water, or 2 litres. The coffee sachet is still the same, however you dilute it. Isn't it?I would interpret that the calorie-containing ingredients aren't fully dissolving into the water. Some is remaining behind in the sachet.
ETA: Hang on - is that a sachet like a tea bag where you steep and remove or like a packet of hot cocoa that you dump in and dissolve? Because my comment only makes sense if it's the former.
It did actually make me wonder if they are somehow allowing for some of the sachet residue to be left in the cup.0 -
The problem is that "100 ml" isn't the same amount as "one serving". Which is stupid. If you make the whole sachet, it counts as the left column. If you make it, and then decide to only drink 100 ml, it's sort of the right... except I think you'd have to add 200 ml to get those numbers to work.0
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annacole94 wrote: »The problem is that "100 ml" isn't the same amount as "one serving". Which is stupid. If you make the whole sachet, it counts as the left column. If you make it, and then decide to only drink 100 ml, it's sort of the right... except I think you'd have to add 200 ml to get those numbers to work.
I know, right? I'm actually tempted to email them and ask how they came by those numbers. Mind you, they have the standard 'get out of jail free card' which is *All specified values are averages
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All of the ratios of "as prepared" to "serving" are around 0.59.
What happens is that adding 150ml of water to the contents of the sachet results in a drink that's about 170ml in volume. In other words, the volume of the contents of the sachet amounts to about 20ml when dissolved.
Then 100ml of made up drink contains 59-ish% of the sachet contents (100/170) and voila, 180kJ per 100ml.5 -
It's a sachet you empty into the cup. And you add 150mls of water to it. I know there's not a huge amount of difference calories wise, but it had me abit confused.A serving (16g of the mix with water) is intended to be more than 100 ml, so the "per 100 ml" (less than half a cup) is just required labelling (some places require that all nutrition labels have "per 100g" or "per 100ml" info for easy comparisons.
In practice, this would be preparing the mix as instructed (with closer to 175ml of water than 100ml, I'm guessing from the math) and then taking a 100ml portion of it for that second measurement.
But the instructions say to use 150ml of water, not 175, so therefore they should be basing their amounts on "as prepared - 150mls water", not "as prepared - roughly whatever water you want to add to make it up.
The part that really confuses me though is that it shouldnt matter if you use 100mls of water, or 2 litres. The coffee sachet is still the same, however you dilute it. Isn't it?I would interpret that the calorie-containing ingredients aren't fully dissolving into the water. Some is remaining behind in the sachet.
ETA: Hang on - is that a sachet like a tea bag where you steep and remove or like a packet of hot cocoa that you dump in and dissolve? Because my comment only makes sense if it's the former.
It did actually make me wonder if they are somehow allowing for some of the sachet residue to be left in the cup.
Oh.
In that case, the difference is the added volume from the sachet. When you dissolve the sachet contents in 150mL of water, the final volume is going to be > 150mL. Based on the numbers, final drink volume should be ~168mL. 100mL of the mixed drink gets you the numbers in the second column.
Just use the numbers in the 1st column and you'll be good to go.1 -
It's a sachet you empty into the cup. And you add 150mls of water to it. I know there's not a huge amount of difference calories wise, but it had me abit confused.A serving (16g of the mix with water) is intended to be more than 100 ml, so the "per 100 ml" (less than half a cup) is just required labelling (some places require that all nutrition labels have "per 100g" or "per 100ml" info for easy comparisons.
In practice, this would be preparing the mix as instructed (with closer to 175ml of water than 100ml, I'm guessing from the math) and then taking a 100ml portion of it for that second measurement.
But the instructions say to use 150ml of water, not 175, so therefore they should be basing their amounts on "as prepared - 150mls water", not "as prepared - roughly whatever water you want to add to make it up.
The part that really confuses me though is that it shouldnt matter if you use 100mls of water, or 2 litres. The coffee sachet is still the same, however you dilute it. Isn't it?I would interpret that the calorie-containing ingredients aren't fully dissolving into the water. Some is remaining behind in the sachet.
ETA: Hang on - is that a sachet like a tea bag where you steep and remove or like a packet of hot cocoa that you dump in and dissolve? Because my comment only makes sense if it's the former.
It did actually make me wonder if they are somehow allowing for some of the sachet residue to be left in the cup.
150 ML are added to the sachet...the contents of the sachet combined with 150 ML of water would be around 170 ML...100 ML of the prepared beverage would be 180Kj3 -
I was so sure this was going to be about microwave popcorn ("can't make sense of this label").1
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