Progressive overload - scale weight?
CeeBeeSlim
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If i am progressing (newbie doing Strong Curves) each week, will the scale weight keep rising to reflect water retention? Have been doing SC for four weeks - no weight change at all until the fourth week - 136.6 to 133.0. The slowness of the weight loss freaked me out a bit, but I tried to remain patient. After the fourth week (last Sun), I felt stronger. I advanced - as per the program - to higher weight, deeper squats, more new barbell work, etc - but instead of resting, incorporated a fitness blender kettle bell routine, a HIIT les mills video, and a TRX routine on my non SC days. Today I was 136.4 and wanna smash the scAle in pieces. Could this be water retention - I was beyond sooooore. And if it is, if I keep progressing and lifting heavier, when will the scAle stop showing water gain if ever?! Hope this makes sense. I'm on point with my logging. And I do feel firmer. But 3.4 lbs for a really hard workout week? Is that possible? Diary is open I think.
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I am in the same boat as you. I am working out and lifting weights and the scale is not reflecting what I'm putting in for effort. I think it's muscle gain, and fat loss. Muscle weighs more than fat.0
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You lost 3.4 pounds starting your weight loss and strength training? That really good rate of loss. Your profile is set to private.
And no resting days? The program wants you to rest and recover on non lifting days.. More exercise is not always better..
Since you described your logging (in a calorie deficit) is in check and nothing has changed in your diet yes this is water retention. Also keep in mind weight loss is not linear, you may lose nothing at all some weeks, some you may lose more!
eta you are capable of building min muscle as a newbie lifter while in a calorie deficit. These will taper off but this too is something to consider as well.1 -
3.4lbs from a really hard workout week is definitely possible, especially if you are not used to this level of working out. It is water retention for muscle repair.
If you are in a deficit and are accurate in your logging and weighing, it will go away. Mine took about six weeks to level out.
And yes with lifting, you very well may see slower scale losses but an improvement in body composition as the trade off.0 -
@RoxieDawn sorry about that. I think my diary is public now. Yes, a 3.4 lb loss but that loss was a onetime loss after three weeks of no loss at all. I actually should've rested but my body strangely felt like moving - each of those added workouts was just 30 minutes. Tough but just 30 minutes.
@sammyliftsandeats - wow - six weeks? You weighed weekly or daily?
Sounds like the scAle is not my friend if I'm doing this lifting. I'd love to say my head could get around not seeing any losses. Intellectually, I get it. Emotionally, it's not that ez for me - not yet at least.0 -
@CeeBeeSlim - I weighed daily and used Happy Scale to track my weight. I look at the overall trend, not the daily fluctuations. But yes, it IS alarming at first, but you just have to be patient and ride it out. I knew I was doing my body good by strength training so I didn't let the initial water weight gain scare me off. But yes, easier said than done for some people.0
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Don't worry, yes, could be water. I'd suggest weighing yourself daily so you can see a better trend though. It's not about losing weight from day to day, it's about understanding how your weight normally fluctuates and seeing the trend. If you can't see the trend you won't know. Only weighing once per week is fine for maintaining, but IMO not for losing. If you're logging is accurate, and you are in calorie deficit, then it could be water drawn into your muscles with the glycogen since you recently appear to have made those muscles work harder.
Keep going. Weigh daily so you can see the trend.0 -
It will take 1 day to 2 weeks for the water retention to disappear. You could very well experience new water retention before you lose all of this, or more afterwards. Remember, the body is about 60% water, muscles are about 75% water. Just remind yourself to listen to the "intellectual" voice rather than the "emotional" one.0
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@lorrpb Thanks! Just don't get myself. I'm a math geek, round my food when weighing and logging to two decimal places, suggested algebra problems for fun during high school and got bullied for it (nerd alert!!) - but that SCALE!! Even when my clothes fit better - THAT SCALE! Which makes me wonder - why isn't there much emphasis on measurements on mfp (unless I'm wrong) if the scale is not the end all? Unless while the scale is not the end all, it truly is the best indicator of fitness? Sigh!0
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@CeeBeeSlim - you can track measurements on your progress (for sure on the web version you can) and occasionally, there are articles about Non-Scale Victories (NSVs) but I do realize it is not as highly emphasized as the scale progress.0
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sammyliftsandeats wrote: »@CeeBeeSlim - you can track measurements on your progress (for sure on the web version you can) and occasionally, there are articles about Non-Scale Victories (NSVs) but I do realize it is not as highly emphasized as the scale progress.
Go to "My Home/Check-in" and go to the bottom to add/edit anything you want to measure. Waist, neck, arms, anything. Once you add it here it'll show up on the mobile app too.0 -
The scale is an indicator of body weight at a moment in time, it's not an indicator of fitness at all. Many MFPers encourage others to take body measurements regularly because they "can" be a better indicator than the scale. This worked great for me when I had a trainer, but on my own I seem to have trouble getting consistent measurements in a row. But definitely you can and "should" do this!
I hope you track your lifting weights and reps-- this is where you will see the biggest progress given the program you follow. I advocate keeping many small goals in fitness, weight, nutrition, etc. That way when one area is disappointing, others are doing great! If you're familiar with linear equations, you know that we are always seeking that little triangle with the resolution. In real life it's very hard to come by so if you can get really close it's great. As soon as you loosen up even one of the lines just a bit, your solution area gets much larger.
Also remind your math brain of the standard deviation and p-value and why these parameters are important. Your water weight and fluctuations are the standard deviation but you are looking for p< 0.00001 which is nearly impossible to achieve. Relax up those standards a bit, you will still be mathematically sound, and much more satisfied. It takes awhile to retrain our "thinking" but this is part of our "job", to educate ourselves on reality as we progress through this journey.
I'm not saying to get sloppy and uncaring about your high standards, just relax a tiny bit to give yourself a tad bit of breathing room while still pushing ahead.0 -
3.6 pounds over a four week period works out to almost pound per week loss....not sure what the issue is here..??1
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CeeBeeSlim wrote: »@lorrpb Thanks! Just don't get myself. I'm a math geek, round my food when weighing and logging to two decimal places, suggested algebra problems for fun during high school and got bullied for it (nerd alert!!) - but that SCALE!! Even when my clothes fit better - THAT SCALE! Which makes me wonder - why isn't there much emphasis on measurements on mfp (unless I'm wrong) if the scale is not the end all? Unless while the scale is not the end all, it truly is the best indicator of fitness? Sigh!
Weight trending apps can be fun for math geeks - it helps if you understand the underlying statistics, too, as you'll better be able to understand & interpret what you're seeing. Maybe try daily weighing (first thing in the AM, after bathroom before food/water, if you're not doing that already, and put it in such an app.
Trendweight, Happy Scale, and Libra are common choices for different tech environments.
If you're pre-menopausal, don't forget that cycle-related water weight could be a factor in addition to workout-repair water weight; add in higher than usual sodium or carbs (even if healthy amounts, and within calorie goal), and maybe some extra-fibrous or other high-volume food in the digestive system, and weight bounces all over the place. If you're at a calorie deficit, fat loss will eventually out-pace any of the above that may temporarily mask it, and the scale will drop.
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Thank you all. Very helpful. I'll try Happy ScAle and work on getting a grip!1
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