CUBA HOLIDAY DIET!

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TomDavies09
TomDavies09 Posts: 28 Member
edited April 2017 in Introduce Yourself
After some advice on the best shred diets, going to Cuba in may, lost 11.6lb in the last 3 weeks but need something more fat specific!

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  • StealthHealth
    StealthHealth Posts: 2,417 Member
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    Jealous of your holiday plans... would love to visit Cuba!

    nearly 12lb in three weeks is a lot of weight and I've got to admit I'm a little worried about that since, unless your very big, I would suggest that at best some of this is water weight and at worst some of this is muscle (aggressive weight loss often reduces more muscle than fat - this is why people recommend a slower rate of loss).

    Are you eating low carb? How many calories are you currently on, and do you work out?
  • subcounter
    subcounter Posts: 2,382 Member
    edited April 2017
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    I agree with @StealthHealth , thats like 3.86 lb/week, nearly 4 pounds a week, which is very very high. My weight fluctuates up to 8 lb's depending on the day, so I would assume most of the "loss" is water weight, once you reduced your carb intake.

    There are no fat specific shred diets, only hard work, weight-lifting combined with a reasonable deficit. We have no idea about your current weight or your goal so hard to give a suggestion but if you are close to your goal, I would definitely consider a lower loss per week such as 1lb/week or so, combined with heavy lifts.

    Small deficit combined with lifts is your best bet to keep the muscle loss to a minimum while cutting, and even this depends on your current muscle situation. Newbies tend to keep their muscles easier during cuts, even gain some, compared to advanced lifters.

    Also, make sure you are getting adequate amount of protein in you. I usually go with 0.8 grams of protein per lb of body weight, and works well for my body.
  • TomDavies09
    TomDavies09 Posts: 28 Member
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    I was weighing 15st dead, with 21% body fat! I go to the gym 4x a week and then play rugby 3 times a week.

    Over the last 3 weeks I've just been nailing cardio, 10-13k a day on the bike, a mile on the rowing machine and a 1-2k run! I basically just stuck to a similar eating pattern but cut out the junk food snacking! Just trying to sort something more fat targeting in the gym! Thanks for your replies though guys!
  • StealthHealth
    StealthHealth Posts: 2,417 Member
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    Is that bike/row/run your gym session or are your gym sessions weights and the cardio is extra to that?
  • TomDavies09
    TomDavies09 Posts: 28 Member
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    That's pretty much my gym session, I'm a builder so by the time I've done that I'm hanging!!
  • StealthHealth
    StealthHealth Posts: 2,417 Member
    edited April 2017
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    It's my opinion that, because of your rapid weight loss, the predominantly cardio work outs, and an active day job that your weight loss so far (and in the future if you carry on) consists of mainly lean body mass.

    I may be guilty of being overly cautious here but I would strongly recommend that you:
    • Drop much of the cardio and use calorie intake to hit a loss rate of about 1lb per week
    • Make your gym sessions primarily strength work using an established, progressive weightlifting program

    I think that continuing as you are, sooner or later two things are going to happen:
    • Your performance on the rugby pitch will decline
    • You will find that although you weigh less the fat is still there
  • TomDavies09
    TomDavies09 Posts: 28 Member
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    Thank you for insight! As of Monday I'll get on the weight lifting instead! Do you recommend 'HIIT' training?
  • StealthHealth
    StealthHealth Posts: 2,417 Member
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    Re: lifting, check out this thread for some links to well respected lifting programs: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you#latest

    HIIT can be useful, I see it as a way of packing an intense amount of exercise into a small time limit, nothing more or less than that really - I certainly don't think it has any special powers other than your burning a lot of cals in a short time.

    In your situation - Where sport is important and you have a beach holiday coming up I'd be placing all my focus on lifting to preserve (maybe even build a little) muscle whilst using a slight calorific deficit to slooooowwwwllly shed some fat.

    Believe me, for sports performance and aesthetics, you want to retain muscle as much as possible because it is much, much harder to build muscle than it is to shed fat and in some respects the more muscle you have the easier it is to drop that fat.

    With a decent lifting program, Rugby x 3 per week and an active job your going to be eating north of 2500 cals per day - probably much more. This is a good thing :)
  • TomDavies09
    TomDavies09 Posts: 28 Member
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    I think before I started dieting I was at around 2800cals and then I dropped to 2300cals and my macros are 208g protein, 184carbs and 82fats! Is this a suitable amount of each? I'll check that website you sent me when I get a spare minute!
  • StealthHealth
    StealthHealth Posts: 2,417 Member
    edited April 2017
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    Looks OK to me - some would say that your high on protein but unless you have a medical condition, excess protein is not a health prob and can be a good (albeit expensive) insurance policy against muscle loss when dieting.

    If you can make meals you enjoy on those macros then that is a good enough reason to stick with it.
  • TomDavies09
    TomDavies09 Posts: 28 Member
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    Sounds stupid but I copy a lot of 'Cristian Guzmans' dieting just change things up to meet my requirements! (He's a guy on YouTube if you didn't know) have a look at his work and let me know what you think!
  • nutmegoreo
    nutmegoreo Posts: 15,532 Member
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    I was anticipating something about the water and explosive end results and rapid weight loss...

    OP, you have gotten some great suggestions here.

    Enjoy your vacation. I haven't been to Cuba, but it's on my list.
  • TomDavies09
    TomDavies09 Posts: 28 Member
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    I'll be sure to let you know!! Would a 10k bike ride and then a weight workout be beneficial? Getting the cardio in aswell as the weighted side?
  • StealthHealth
    StealthHealth Posts: 2,417 Member
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    If you're following a decent lifting program you won't want to to put a cycle ride in before your lifting session and you will be incapable of it afterwards!

    I can sense your keenness to retain the cardio, and others may disagree with me on this, but for your goals and lifestyle cardio is a 3rd level priority (where slight calorific deficit and a program of lifting are 1st and 2nd priority in that order). If you must do some, make it something that you add on or fit in with your other gym work - make it the side order not the steak.