Interesting difference in the mentality of men and women as it relates to being fat.

jdb3388
jdb3388 Posts: 239 Member
edited April 2017 in Chit-Chat
I was pondering to myself the other day - #ShowerThoughts - If you tell a woman she would look great if she just lost some weight, she becomes offended, and hurt by the comment, but if you tell a man he would look great if he lost some weight, he takes it as a compliment, and puts real thought into the suggestion, sometimes even making the effort to hit the gym and and watch what he eats.

I know we're wired differently, I just find it peculiar that the result of the same action would be so drastically different depending on who you're talking to.
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  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,632 Member
    edited April 2017
    I can anecdotally verify the male side of this, as it's how I feel about myself sometimes now without someone saying it. I've been super fit and am not anymore, and I know at any point I'm only about half a year or so of hard work and dedication away from being there again.

    Frustrating that I can't push myself over the hump to do it, but I know it's there (while physically capable, which I know I still am).
  • comeonnow142857
    comeonnow142857 Posts: 310 Member
    I would be very complimented by the phrase "you'd look great if you lost 15lbs!".
  • diezel67
    diezel67 Posts: 97 Member
    What lol? I don't like it.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,970 Member
    Timshel_ wrote: »
    No one likes to be told they are fat, so that is the same for both. How we process and respond to suggestions as such might differ, but I haven't seen a single guy get told he is fat and say, "Gosh thanks, I will use that motivation to inspire me to be better".

    I think what he (?)'s saying is that "you'd look amazing if you lost some weight" is ambiguous. It could mean "you're fat" or the gist could be "you have good features / bone structure / hair / a nice face." The OP is saying that men prefer the flattering way to interpret it, like a reflex.
  • relynne
    relynne Posts: 387 Member
    I think the OP might be one of the stupidest things I've ever read on the internet.
  • 4legsRbetterthan2
    4legsRbetterthan2 Posts: 19,575 MFP Moderator
    Timshel_ wrote: »
    No one likes to be told they are fat, so that is the same for both. How we process and respond to suggestions as such might differ, but I haven't seen a single guy get told he is fat and say, "Gosh thanks, I will use that motivation to inspire me to be better".

    I think what he (?)'s saying is that "you'd look amazing if you lost some weight" is ambiguous. It could mean "you're fat" or the gist could be "you have good features / bone structure / hair / a nice face." The OP is saying that men prefer the flattering way to interpret it, like a reflex.

    I think this is a good point. There has been alot of research done on how women and men percieve themselves, men tend to be more confident in themselves than women, women tend to judge themselves more harshly. Makes sense that the tendency would be to take this comment in different ways.
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,841 Member
    Timshel_ wrote: »
    No one likes to be told they are fat, so that is the same for both. How we process and respond to suggestions as such might differ, but I haven't seen a single guy get told he is fat and say, "Gosh thanks, I will use that motivation to inspire me to be better".

    I think what he (?)'s saying is that "you'd look amazing if you lost some weight" is ambiguous. It could mean "you're fat" or the gist could be "you have good features / bone structure / hair / a nice face." The OP is saying that men prefer the flattering way to interpret it, like a reflex.

    I get ya. Men are a bit less self-critical in that regard.

    Then again, I would never tell a woman she needs to lose pounds.
    Even if trying to be positive or encouraging.
    Ever.
  • cassandrarodriguez89
    cassandrarodriguez89 Posts: 239 Member
    I think it depends on the woman. I would LOVE someone to tell me if I was overweight, it would hurt my feelings for people to hide it from me. What if I was obese and could not tell? Sometimes we are very secure in ourselves and without being told we are obese we would end up dying early. After I gave birth my husband did not say I looked like I gained 15lbs of fat and he did not find my body as attractive... instead after I got back in shape he suddenly was all over me and bragging about how awesome my body is. I wish he would had said something immediatly after I gave birth because I would had stopped eating cake, cookies and cupcakes all day. I thought he was just busy... one year post partum and im looking rad now :)
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,970 Member
    Timshel_ wrote: »
    Then again, I would never tell a woman she needs to lose pounds.
    Even if trying to be positive or encouraging.
    Ever.

    Yeah, that'd be like stepping in front of a train, but less exciting.
  • 4legsRbetterthan2
    4legsRbetterthan2 Posts: 19,575 MFP Moderator
    jtegirl1 wrote: »

    Ditto this. Also, 15 lbs does not make one obese. I have a sneaking suspicion that people who are obese know they're obese and don't need to be told.

    I think this is partly true, but I know personally I had a bit of denial going on too. I was heavy but not that heavy. Then one day I saw a current photo of myself and had a holy crap moment. Its easier than you think to not face reality.
  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,725 Member
    Timshel_ wrote: »
    No one likes to be told they are fat, so that is the same for both. How we process and respond to suggestions as such might differ, but I haven't seen a single guy get told he is fat and say, "Gosh thanks, I will use that motivation to inspire me to be better".

    I think what he (?)'s saying is that "you'd look amazing if you lost some weight" is ambiguous. It could mean "you're fat" or the gist could be "you have good features / bone structure / hair / a nice face." The OP is saying that men prefer the flattering way to interpret it, like a reflex.

    Do you?
  • km8907
    km8907 Posts: 3,861 Member
    She becomes offended because you're saying she'd look great IF she lost weight, which means you think she's doesn't look great now. Basically you're like, hey you look awful, but you wouldn't if you lost weight. How is that not offensive?
  • coffee_and_carbs
    coffee_and_carbs Posts: 7 Member
    edited April 2017
    If I told my partner he would look great if he lost some weight he would take it into consideration and start to work on his appearance but I also know he would be hurt. You're probably right that it hurts women more. I can only imagine it's because people want to be accepted as they are. On another note it's not anyone's business to be telling someone else's what to do with their body.
  • Vikka_V
    Vikka_V Posts: 9,562 Member
    Telling someone they need to lose weight or criticizing someones body, regardless of gender, can be offensive.

    I know a lady who repeatedly tells her husband he needs to lose weight. It offends and worries me. I have told her this because I think her comments are hurtful. The way she says it is rude too, its mean.

    If he said the same thing to her, it would not go over well. He doesn't act upset, but who knows.

    I am sensitive to people making negative comments to people based on their weight. I was surprised when I found out one of my male friends had an eating disorder. I shouldn't have been I guess, he was teased about his weight. I think less attention is focused on men and the detrimental effects of a negative body image.


  • Motorsheen
    Motorsheen Posts: 20,490 Member
    conversation with a college housemate:

    Roomie: Hey Fatass!

    Me: Are you talking to me?

    Roomie: Who else would I be talking to?

    Me: .....Dang.

    Thing was, he was right. Too much beer and late night pizza.

    Solution: Lose 10 pounds

    So I did.

    He did me a favor by calling me out. *shrug
  • beagletracks
    beagletracks Posts: 6,035 Member
    I told my dog he should lose some weight, and he just stared blankly.
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
    jtegirl1 wrote: »
    tsortsor wrote: »
    If a husband isn't into his wife cause of 15 lbs I question his character.

    ...I have a sneaking suspicion that people who are obese know they're obese and don't need to be told.

    Except that half the overweight people I know think they are normal weight, and some of the obese ones think they are "just a little" overweight. They also think normal weight people are overly skinny, and slim people who are well within the healthy range are sickly and emaciated. I think there are a lot of fat people out there who don't really know what's healthy because they are surrounded by people of similar size, and to them, that IS normal. Not saying that's everyone, or even most, but it's a lot from my experience...