Any good advice or tips for a frequent business traveler?
JustRobby1
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I am out to town on client visits about 3-4 times a month on average nowadays. This is mainly because I am the only person in my department that is relatively young and does not have a wife, kids, soccer practice, or other domestic responsibilities keeping me from it.
I find it very tough to stay on point when on the road, for a variety of reasons. Anyone else in a similar situation that has some tips to share?
I find it very tough to stay on point when on the road, for a variety of reasons. Anyone else in a similar situation that has some tips to share?
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Stay in a hotel with a good gym. Eat the same food all the time to keep the calorie counts approximately the same. You really can't go wrong with a salad with say chicken or steak on it.
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I almost always stay at a Hyatt concept of some kind (my boss gets the points). Gyms are normally available, which I do my best to utilize. The main problem is constantly having clients wanting to take me out for lunch, dinner, drinks, etc. I don't want to decline for obvious reasons, but taking me to sports bars with pitchers of beer and plates of hot wings is the bad part.0
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I travel all the time and I always choose salads or vegetable dishes with meat but stay away from the breads appetizers etc0
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supaflyrobby1 wrote: »I almost always stay at a Hyatt concept of some kind (my boss gets the points). Gyms are normally available, which I do my best to utilize. The main problem is constantly having clients wanting to take me out for lunch, dinner, drinks, etc. I don't want to decline for obvious reasons, but taking me to sports bars with pitchers of beer and plates of hot wings is the bad part.
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3-4 times a month isn't "frequent". That averages out as less than 1 day per week. Treat this day as a "cheat" day and moderate the other 6 days that week to ensure you are in a calorie deficit.
Also you could exercise some self control and say no. It is not unprofessional to care about your health.1 -
Stay in a hotel with a good gym. Eat the same food all the time to keep the calorie counts approximately the same. You really can't go wrong with a salad with say chicken or steak on it.
You'd be surprised how many calories there can be in a restaurant chicken salad.
Applebee's Crispy Chicken & Cornbread Salad, for example comes in at a staggering 1400 calories, which you can reduce 1090 by getting the Grilled Chicken & Cornbread Salad. TGI Fridays lists their Pecan-Crusted Chicken Salad with Balsamic Vinaigrette at 1200 calories. The lunch portion is 670.
If you want a low calorie salad at a restaurant, it's going to be a side salad with no cheese and no dressing. Advising someone to just think the chicken salad at a restaurant is a safely low calorie meal is going to have them back on here wondering why in six months they've only lost five pounds, if that.1 -
trigden1991 wrote: »3-4 times a month isn't "frequent". That averages out as less than 1 day per week. Treat this day as a "cheat" day and moderate the other 6 days that week to ensure you are in a calorie deficit.
Also you could exercise some self control and say no. It is not unprofessional to care about your health.
He didn't say what the length of his travel times. I used to travel 2-3 times a month...but I was gone anywhere from 1 night to five straight...and five was more frequent than 1.
As everyone has said...use the hotel gyms or pools (swimming is a great workout). Do some walking tours.
Just because you're working on improving health and diet doesn't mean you can't have a beer or a couple wings...just plan for it, figure out where you are on your calories where you can work it in. Get salad instead of fries (watch out for extras on the salad, like cheese, bacon and dressing...the portions on these are frequently double or triple serving size--ask for them on the side. I asked for cheese and dressing on the side with a IHOP Cesar salad one time and they gave me a half cup of each...). Order things grilled rather than fried or battered. Eat half and take the rest back to the hotel or ask if you can get a half order (I don't know about now, but Applebees used to offer half salads...still super high cal but less the a whole...and for lunches, they used to do side salad or soup and 1/2 sandwich...this can keep calories down...I haven't eaten at Applebee's in a long time).
If you're going to chain restaurants, a lot of them post nutrition (online, at least, and you can ask in the restaurant)...use that to make your choices.0 -
When travelling I keep a stash of calorie counted snacks , and I take a lunchbox, so I shop and self cater in preference to restaurants. I find this makes me feel in control and self sufficient. It also saves money to spend on things I like, even little things like guitar magazines and novels. Increasingly, if I want to turn down offers of drinks or foods I just turn them down. Travelling seems to involve lots of walking especially if in an unusual or scenic new place which offsets a lot of mildly stressed or social overeating, some of which seem inevitable. It can be a lonely life travelling to work, so you can learn to take care of yourself and be your own best travel companion.0
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melaniedscott wrote: »trigden1991 wrote: »3-4 times a month isn't "frequent". That averages out as less than 1 day per week. Treat this day as a "cheat" day and moderate the other 6 days that week to ensure you are in a calorie deficit.
Also you could exercise some self control and say no. It is not unprofessional to care about your health.
He didn't say what the length of his travel times. I used to travel 2-3 times a month...but I was gone anywhere from 1 night to five straight...and five was more frequent than 1.
Good point!0 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »Stay in a hotel with a good gym. Eat the same food all the time to keep the calorie counts approximately the same. You really can't go wrong with a salad with say chicken or steak on it.
You'd be surprised how many calories there can be in a restaurant chicken salad.
Applebee's Crispy Chicken & Cornbread Salad, for example comes in at a staggering 1400 calories, which you can reduce 1090 by getting the Grilled Chicken & Cornbread Salad. TGI Fridays lists their Pecan-Crusted Chicken Salad with Balsamic Vinaigrette at 1200 calories. The lunch portion is 670.
If you want a low calorie salad at a restaurant, it's going to be a side salad with no cheese and no dressing. Advising someone to just think the chicken salad at a restaurant is a safely low calorie meal is going to have them back on here wondering why in six months they've only lost five pounds, if that.
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »Stay in a hotel with a good gym. Eat the same food all the time to keep the calorie counts approximately the same. You really can't go wrong with a salad with say chicken or steak on it.
You'd be surprised how many calories there can be in a restaurant chicken salad.
Applebee's Crispy Chicken & Cornbread Salad, for example comes in at a staggering 1400 calories, which you can reduce 1090 by getting the Grilled Chicken & Cornbread Salad. TGI Fridays lists their Pecan-Crusted Chicken Salad with Balsamic Vinaigrette at 1200 calories. The lunch portion is 670.
If you want a low calorie salad at a restaurant, it's going to be a side salad with no cheese and no dressing. Advising someone to just think the chicken salad at a restaurant is a safely low calorie meal is going to have them back on here wondering why in six months they've only lost five pounds, if that.
Most non-chain restaurants don't publish the nutrition information for their menus, and your advice could easily lead to someone thinking a salad with chicken is always going to be a lower calorie option. That is not the case.
Assumptions like that lead to people not losing weight as expected, or even gaining it, because they're eating a lot more than they think they are. Then they come back here and ask why they're not losing weight, when they've followed the given advice to just have the salad with chicken.0 -
I used to travel on average 20-25 days/mo and still travel at least 5-7. My tips:
For the Flight/Car: STAY HYDRATED- drink tons of water. Avoid the urge to eat out of boredom, or if you know you will, bring healthy snacks- protein shakes, cut fruit/veggies, beef/turkey jerky
In Airports: Research your restaurant options ahead of time. Figure out your gates, the path between them, and whether this is a meal time. Figure out where and what you're going to eat before the plane ever takes off
In Hotels: force yourself to get up and hit the treadmill every morning. If you're a west coaster travelling east, this is going to suck. Do it anyway. If you're on the east coast headed west, your body will want to be up at 5am anyway, go with it and hit the gym. Bring protein powder and a shaker bottle with you, drink this instead of whatever carb/fat loaded breakfast is provided for you
Meals (especially with clients): This is all about moderation and good choices- gin & tonic is better than beer if you can hold your liquor. I can't, so I choose champagnes, wine, or light beers. Lean toward vegetables & lean meats. I avoid pastas, breads, anything "Crispy" "Battered" "Fried" or "Coated". I always order my dressing on the side, I never eat fried carbohydrates (always sub the veggies), and I'm mindful of my condiments.
Meals by yourself: RESEARCH. Look up options near your hotel/office/site ahead of time, bookmark them on yelp, find out if they deliver, etc.
Given all of this, I'm usually still over 200-300 calories a day if I eat more than one meal with a client or on site. However, that number is manageable for me. Its really scary how much added butter, sugar, and oil is in most restaurant food. I have found that most supervisors won't complain about your expense spending if you explain that you chose the healthy option over cheap crap. They know they're already inconveniencing you with travel, they're not going to force you to eat like crap as well.5 -
Meals (especially with clients): This is all about moderation and good choices- gin & tonic is better than beer if you can hold your liquor.
Tonic water is loaded with sugar making it 120 calories per 12 oz. The calories in a shot of 80 proof liquor aren't going to vary by much, so in the event that I am drinking liquor, I go with something that is mixed with a no-calorie mixer like club or diet soda.
The other thing I tend to do is eat half of the portion at restaurants because typically they're far too large for a single meal anyway, especially if it means I don't have to choke down a light beer and can instead have a beer I like.
One way to avoid using a ton of dressing on a salad is to dip the fork a little in the dressing, and then get some salad on it. You use way less dressing that way.
I also avoid the "basket of bread for the table" or any of the "appetizers for the table" that inevitably get ordered for group meals.1 -
I am normally gone for 3 days at a time. So out of a 4 week month, I am gone once every work week. I sometimes do multiple city trips where I am gone for 6-9 days. My last trip was an example of this. I was gone 4 days in the Boston/New England area, and then flew to Raleigh for 3 days afterwards. The rationale being that I can knock everything out in one trip, but I really hate being gone this long if I can avoid it.0
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I travel for 2-4 days a time 2-3x a month. This is what I do:
-When I'm NOT traveling, I eat below my calories and work out almost every day. Once a week during non-traveling days, I might go out to dinner and I'll have a glass of wine OR a slightly indulgent meal OR gelato...not all 3.
-When I travel, I pack my own stuff for the airplane. Small bags of almonds, turkey jerky and deli meat for protein, fruit, baby carrots. If I'm on a long flight, I will pack a salad for lunch or overnight oats for breakfast if it's a 5 am flight. If it's not liquid it usually isn't an issue going through security. A few times I had the oats confiscated and had to buy something, but oats are pretty cheap.
-I also pack lots of things in my suitcase to keep me satisfied so I won't be tempted during those meals. Protein powder, nuts, dried meat, small squares of dark chocolate (because sweets are my weakness.) I pack measuring spoons and cups so I can make sure I'm not eating crazy portions of the hotel oatmeal.
-I bring workout clothes/equipment and workout most days while I'm away.
-I order very carefully at dinners out but my industry IS food so I do enjoy smallish portions when there's an event that's food related. At a restaurant, I get grilled chicken over romaine with vinaigrette on the side, and am really careful about cheeses, nuts and other fats. No croutons, no bread, no liquor.
This might sound a little extreme, but when I first started this position 2.5 years ago, I slowly gained 10 lbs, and it took a long time to lose it, and following this little "system" has kept me from regaining.3 -
supaflyrobby1 wrote: »I am normally gone for 3 days at a time. So out of a 4 week month, I am gone once every work week. I sometimes do multiple city trips where I am gone for 6-9 days. My last trip was an example of this. I was gone 4 days in the Boston/New England area, and then flew to Raleigh for 3 days afterwards. The rationale being that I can knock everything out in one trip, but I really hate being gone this long if I can avoid it.
I live in the Boston area. Lots of healthy eating options. Try Legal Seafoods or other Legal type restaurant and you can get broiled fish with healthy sides. Research before you go...you'll find great options that are still enjoyable and healthy.0 -
heiliskrimsli wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Stay in a hotel with a good gym. Eat the same food all the time to keep the calorie counts approximately the same. You really can't go wrong with a salad with say chicken or steak on it.
You'd be surprised how many calories there can be in a restaurant chicken salad.
Applebee's Crispy Chicken & Cornbread Salad, for example comes in at a staggering 1400 calories, which you can reduce 1090 by getting the Grilled Chicken & Cornbread Salad. TGI Fridays lists their Pecan-Crusted Chicken Salad with Balsamic Vinaigrette at 1200 calories. The lunch portion is 670.
If you want a low calorie salad at a restaurant, it's going to be a side salad with no cheese and no dressing. Advising someone to just think the chicken salad at a restaurant is a safely low calorie meal is going to have them back on here wondering why in six months they've only lost five pounds, if that.
Most non-chain restaurants don't publish the nutrition information for their menus, and your advice could easily lead to someone thinking a salad with chicken is always going to be a lower calorie option. That is not the case.
Assumptions like that lead to people not losing weight as expected, or even gaining it, because they're eating a lot more than they think they are. Then they come back here and ask why they're not losing weight, when they've followed the given advice to just have the salad with chicken.
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The struggle is real I get it. I started a similar post to this a while back. I travel every second week for 5 days mon-fri.
All the advice I've received is simply not doable all the time. Some days I am in meetings and working from 7 am to 9 pm and all of my meals are meetings and eating out.
I'm only 48 days in of trying to figure this out myself...but so far this is what I've changed to try and make it work because I gained almost 30 lbs over the last 3-4 yrs.
1. Stopped booking breakfast meetings. If someone wants to meet that early I tell them in advance that I'm on a health and fitness plan and cannot sustain eating out every meal. It felt weird at first to say this but what I quickly realized is that they felt the same way and completely understood! So instead I would have something I packed. Protein bars, almonds, protein drink, whatever works for you. Even just eggs and toast at the hotel restaurant.
2. When im in back to back meetings all day every day for days on end I end up drinking WAY too much coffee. When you add up all those coffees it's a bunch of wasted calories. I started only drinking water or nothing at all during meetings.
3. I started packing snacks for travel time. For on flights, in the car between meetings, in the evening im my hotel room when I'm sending all those emails to the people I made promises to throughout the day. This helps prevent me from overeating when it is meal time because I'm starving.
4. Always pack plenty of gym clothes so that I feel good and can put something clean on every time. I don't force myself to go to the gym every night. Some nights I'm way too exhausted because it was a 12-14 hour work day of rushing from meeting to meeting. However I try and get there at least twice in that 5 day period.
5. I spend a lot of time and effort ahead of time trying to strategically book meetings that are walking distance to each other. This is impossible a lot of the time...but here and there it is. And I just do it as much as possible to try and walk as much as I can. I also take stairs every time, never elevators. This forced me to buy a backpack laptop bag instead of a shoulder one. It has saved my life lol.
6. I know this sounds weird and can't be done all the time I understand. But I've tried it twice now and it worked! I requested that two of my meetings be "walking" meetings last week while I was away. Surprisingly the response was that's a great idea! One of the days it was raining so we had to walk around inside the pedways but that was almost better because it was quieter.
7. When I do eat out at restaurants, I used to feel odd ordering something so specific but I just had to get over myself and do it because i was tired of gaining weight every second week. To my surprise servers and restaurants have been very accommodating. Many times I get "are you tracking your macros?" And I say yes, yes I am lol. I ask for their help In tracking down the nutritional info for their menu (it's usually on their website) and make the best choice possible. This one took me a long time to do. I had it in my head I was being a pain or that I was taking Away from the meeting by spending time on being high maintenance rather than building rapport with my client or associate. I'm totally over it now though. I've come to realize that people respond well and respect me making healthy choices and it's not an issue at all. I ask for half my meal on the plate and half In a to go container if it's a lot of food and always ask for sauces etc on the side. Surprisingly those are the things packed with calories, not so much the actual food.
8. I Strive to hit the 10,000 steps a day. Which means if I'm waiting in the lobby for my taxi...I'm walking around the lobby as I wait, not just standing there.
9. I am doing my best to stop booking meetings so late and making sure I have time to do my emails in the evening and still get to bed at a decent time so that I'm getting enough sleep and proper rest. I put this before going to the gym.
So far these things have helped me. I've still managed to lose 8.7 lbs in the last 7-8 weeks even when travelling. It has been a total shift in my thinking and taking my power back. As for the drinking I still have wine here and there at dinner meetings but I just cut back as much as I can.
It's all about finding a solution for all the individual challenges and making it routine. Instead Of being powerless and making excuses or justifying why it's so challenging. And the reality is others solutions don't work for me (like go grocery shopping once I'm there and don't eat out, like yah right lol). So some of my solutions may not work for you. Like the walking meeting. That's only doable once in a while cause I'm usually doing a walk through of a presentation on my laptop. But each trip you will find one more way to make it better and over time you'll have solutions and routines you can feel good about. A bunch of tiny little tweaks will add up, trust me.
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When I was traveling weekly, I would go to the grocery store and get lunches/breakfasts for the week and then fit dinner into the rest of my calories. I also subscribed to Daily Burn, its like Netflix for workouts, most of which are done with limited equipment and can be completed in your hotel room.0
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heiliskrimsli wrote: »heiliskrimsli wrote: »Stay in a hotel with a good gym. Eat the same food all the time to keep the calorie counts approximately the same. You really can't go wrong with a salad with say chicken or steak on it.
You'd be surprised how many calories there can be in a restaurant chicken salad.
Applebee's Crispy Chicken & Cornbread Salad, for example comes in at a staggering 1400 calories, which you can reduce 1090 by getting the Grilled Chicken & Cornbread Salad. TGI Fridays lists their Pecan-Crusted Chicken Salad with Balsamic Vinaigrette at 1200 calories. The lunch portion is 670.
If you want a low calorie salad at a restaurant, it's going to be a side salad with no cheese and no dressing. Advising someone to just think the chicken salad at a restaurant is a safely low calorie meal is going to have them back on here wondering why in six months they've only lost five pounds, if that.
Most non-chain restaurants don't publish the nutrition information for their menus, and your advice could easily lead to someone thinking a salad with chicken is always going to be a lower calorie option. That is not the case.
Assumptions like that lead to people not losing weight as expected, or even gaining it, because they're eating a lot more than they think they are. Then they come back here and ask why they're not losing weight, when they've followed the given advice to just have the salad with chicken.
Do you expect your clients to question your advice when you're giving them training plans?
Your advice, as you have stated it, is misleading. Since you compose every post with a huge signature about your qualifications, it looks like you're giving an authoritative answer that people should just trust, but that advice if taken directly could result in no weight loss or even weight gain.
So when that person comes back in six months and says they've lost only five pounds, or worse, gained more weight, what would you tell them? That they shouldn't have taken your advice so matter of fact and instead second guessed everything themselves? If so, why are you even bothering to give advice here?2 -
Business dinners at a good restaurant I'll gravitate to grilled fish with vegetables and/or salad. If I'm not out on a business dinner I almost always eat at a salad bar, often from a grocery store. I also pay a lot of attention to breakfast and lunch. Instead of the hotel breakfast scrambled eggs and bacon, I'll go for plain oatmeal with fresh fruit and cinnamon. If I'm in the same place for a few days I'll pack a Nutribullet and some whey powder, flax, etc. and pick up some fruit, unsweetened almond milk at a store and make my own smoothies in the hotel. And I always pack good quality protein bars and an apple for travel so I don't have to resort to airport food, or during the day instead of hitting a vending machine for junk. For working out, I also bring along TRX training straps that you can hook up to the hotel room door.0
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supaflyrobby1 wrote: »I am normally gone for 3 days at a time. So out of a 4 week month, I am gone once every work week. I sometimes do multiple city trips where I am gone for 6-9 days. My last trip was an example of this. I was gone 4 days in the Boston/New England area, and then flew to Raleigh for 3 days afterwards. The rationale being that I can knock everything out in one trip, but I really hate being gone this long if I can avoid it.
I live in the Boston area. Lots of healthy eating options. Try Legal Seafoods or other Legal type restaurant and you can get broiled fish with healthy sides. Research before you go...you'll find great options that are still enjoyable and healthy.
Funny you should mention it, but I normally stay at the Hyatt in Braintree, and there is a legal seafood attached to the hotel.0 -
I used to travel more but still do quite a bit. I am in an industry that likes to drink. Rather than explain my preferences, I have just approached bartenders/waiters and told them to give me soda water in a cocktail glass and make it look like a cocktail. No cal and I don't have to deal with the "why aren't you drinking?" Questions.0
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I hate work travel. It's not even the food and drink so much as the total disruption of a normal routine. My top 2 tips are get up crazy early and go to the gym. And don't let anyone pressure you to drink. I say "I don't drink during the work week" which is 100% true, and I've never once has a follow question or criticism. Also, the hotel breakfast buffets are crap. When I'm road tripping I bring my own food, when flying, I get the protein bento box from Starbucks and black coffee.1
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I struggle with this as well. Networking, traveling, and diets are hard! Eating out for all of your meals sucks when you are calorie counting. You just never know with restaurants. Plus, it is so hard to say no to the free alcohol and food.
I admire all the people who say they can stick to it without straying while traveling for work. I have no issues at home. Even business lunches are no big thing. I am rested and not tempted with eating out every meal.
Traveling is another issue. The hotel gym only goes so far...0 -
trigden1991 wrote: »3-4 times a month isn't "frequent". That averages out as less than 1 day per week. Treat this day as a "cheat" day and moderate the other 6 days that week to ensure you are in a calorie deficit.
Also you could exercise some self control and say no. It is not unprofessional to care about your health.
LOVE THIS!!!...I used to be of that mindset...not anymore0
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