Sugar or sweetener??
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I'm personally not a fan of sweeteners, there's a lot of 'bad' in them and a lot I don't think has been studied or found.
Use sugar, slowly start to use less.
Say you use two teaspoons then in each tea use:
Two,
Then two smaller heaps
Then one and a half
Then at least get it down to one!2 -
I used to have sweetener in my coffee, then I started spending a lot of time at my (then) partner's house and he only had sugar. It got to the point where I tried sweetener again and it tasted rank! I still have sugar in coffee but limit the amount of coffee I drink - it's a treat now as opposed to a daily (or more) habit.1
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Sweeteners are really bad for your health.. They may cause health issues in the future!!
Sugar isn't great as well, it stores as fat really easy and if you want to loose weight it isn't the best.. Maybe a small amount would be fine:)
Try putting more natural things, such as honey. I have heard that stevia works for some people as well..:)1 -
AnastasiaGrs1 wrote: »Sweeteners are really bad for your health.. They may cause health issues in the future!!
Sugar isn't great as well, it stores as fat really easy and if you want to loose weight it isn't the best.. Maybe a small amount would be fine:)
Try putting more natural things, such as honey. I have heard that stevia works for some people as well..:)
Erm.... honey is sugar and last I checked, at least around these parts, sugar (the granulated white stuff sold as sugar in convenient 1kg packages) is simply pulp from sugar beets. Unless I'm mistaken, that's a natural product too....
Also, what health issues exactly are you talking about?
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Neither stevia nor erythritol causes bowel issues in most people unless they eat really big quantities or are allergic. Xylitol can be a problem for some people though. Whether you like the taste of stevia and whether you think xylitol might pose a risk to your pets are for you to decide, but most people wouldn't call those side effects.well then if we must get pedantic about it...fine.
stevia is too sweet almost sickening...xylitol causes bowel issues and is poisonous to dogs/cats erythritol same bowel issues as xylitol as it is a sugar alcohol as well.
If you look back at what I posted, you'll see this:and no sugar doesn't have as many calories as all mentioned.
honey has 62 calores per tbsp, sugar has 42....
Honey is not a non-sugar sweetener; it is mostly made up of sugar and that is where its sweetness comes from. Sugar does have more calories than all the non-sugar sweeteners that were mentioned.Compared to all non-sugar sweeteners that were mentioned.
This discussion was posted in the weight loss section, so it's a drawback if a food has a lot of calories. And for most people, dental health is also important.
lol..you really want people to use something other than sugar don't you...
and again if you want to get into details erythritol is a sugar alcohol...aka sugar that is found in many energy drinks, naturally occurs in some fruit and fermented foods but apparently when found in other foods is considered a GMO as it is ultra processed.
Erythritol is a four-carbon sugar alcohol or polyol that contains about 60 percent to 80 percent of the sweetness of table sugar.
The WHO actually says that based on the definition of GMO that Stevia and Erythritol fall into that category of a GMO
and because you need more Erythritol there is common occurrence of digestive issues esp in children.
Stevia is just ick and falls under the GMO umbrella too.
I personally don't care about GMO issues but some might.
and using these products does not mean you will lose weight it's just an expensive substitute for sugar which in moderation just like anything else is well...fine.
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AnastasiaGrs1 wrote: »Sweeteners are really bad for your health.. They may cause health issues in the future!!
Sugar isn't great as well, it stores as fat really easy and if you want to loose weight it isn't the best.. Maybe a small amount would be fine:)
Try putting more natural things, such as honey. I have heard that stevia works for some people as well..:)
1. Sweeteners are not bad for health.
2. Sugar does not inhibit fat loss or make you store fat.
3. Honey is sugar
Please just stop7 -
I like sugar...or Stevia. I just found the box of stevia packets for like $1.50. Convenient. I just don't care for the taste of Splenda or Sweet n Low, and nutrisweet messes with my stomach. You could also try honey, molasses, or maple syrup0
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Sugar is horrible. Avoid whenever possible IMO.2
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menotyou56 wrote: »Sugar is horrible. Avoid whenever possible IMO.
Does that mean you avoid all fruits, veggies, and other carbs?3 -
menotyou56 wrote: »Sugar is horrible. Avoid whenever possible IMO.
Does that mean you avoid all fruits, veggies, and other carbs?
I eat some veggies. No fruit. That's a lot different than drinking added sugar in a beverage though.1 -
Sweetener because it's lower calorie and I don't need as much as sugar.1
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menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »Sugar is horrible. Avoid whenever possible IMO.
Does that mean you avoid all fruits, veggies, and other carbs?
I eat some veggies. No fruit. That's a lot different than drinking added sugar in a beverage though.
Not to your body. The rest of the components aside (fiber, protein, etc.) sugar is sugar to your body.1 -
Nothing particularly "bad" about sugar. Just higher calorie than say Stevia. Personally, the different taste of any artificial sweetener doesn't bother me so for calorie purposes, I go with it.0
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Sugarless fruit in a bottle. Lol3 -
Christine_72 wrote: »In all honestly, I'd be questioning why someone feels the need to drink 700 calories worth of soda to begin with?? What it is in these drinks that keep people so hooked that they have to have it every single day? It can't be caffeine, because many of these people also drink coffee and tea.
Sure, i drink coffee and tea every morning, but it's just a habit that I've gotten used to. I stayed at my daughters house for a few days last month, not a drop of either in her house, so i had a warm chocolate milk every morning. I was relieved to know that i don't have an addiction to the caffeine, it's just the warm a.m drink that i look for.
I agree. I am from the UK and when I see the size of some of the drinks containers in the US it boggles me. A medium McDonalds drinks container in the UK is smaller than a US small. I don't understand how people can drink 64oz of anything in one sitting without having a stomach ache/constantly needing to pee. And with hot drinks even more so. How can you drink that much before it goes cold?
I think my tea drinking is more of a psychological habit than a physical one. I only drink it at work usually when I want an excuse to get up and stretch my legs or as part of my morning ritual while my computer is loading. I only really drink fizzy drinks (Dr Pepper is my favourite) if I am very tired or hungover.1 -
Christine_72 wrote: »In all honestly, I'd be questioning why someone feels the need to drink 700 calories worth of soda to begin with?? What it is in these drinks that keep people so hooked that they have to have it every single day? It can't be caffeine, because many of these people also drink coffee and tea.
Sure, i drink coffee and tea every morning, but it's just a habit that I've gotten used to. I stayed at my daughters house for a few days last month, not a drop of either in her house, so i had a warm chocolate milk every morning. I was relieved to know that i don't have an addiction to the caffeine, it's just the warm a.m drink that i look for.
I agree. I am from the UK and when I see the size of some of the drinks containers in the US it boggles me. A medium McDonalds drinks container in the UK is smaller than a US small. I don't understand how people can drink 64oz of anything in one sitting without having a stomach ache/constantly needing to pee. And with hot drinks even more so. How can you drink that much before it goes cold?
I think my tea drinking is more of a psychological habit than a physical one. I only drink it at work usually when I want an excuse to get up and stretch my legs or as part of my morning ritual while my computer is loading. I only really drink fizzy drinks (Dr Pepper is my favourite) if I am very tired or hungover.
This is a big reason why obesity is such a big epidemic here in the US. I haven't paid much attention to the calories in my drinks until recently. In the US if you get a med. Mcdonald's meal with a drink it can exceed your calorie requirement for the DAY. We are talking about 1,000+ calories a MEAL. It's insane when you think about it. I've been getting kids meals at the drive through and cutting my portions in half and taking it home when I eat out. I have to be very aware of it or I'll easily go over my calories for the day.3 -
menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »Sugar is horrible. Avoid whenever possible IMO.
Does that mean you avoid all fruits, veggies, and other carbs?
I eat some veggies. No fruit. That's a lot different than drinking added sugar in a beverage though.
I hope you avoid milk and cheese and other milk products too then.
Carrots, onions, sweat potato, corn, peas, beets, winter squash, tomato (not really a veg), peppers, fennel, cabbage, turnip, green beans, egg plant, summer squash (boiled)1 -
menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »Sugar is horrible. Avoid whenever possible IMO.
Does that mean you avoid all fruits, veggies, and other carbs?
I eat some veggies. No fruit. That's a lot different than drinking added sugar in a beverage though.
Not to your body. The rest of the components aside (fiber, protein, etc.) sugar is sugar to your body.
Well I'm doing keto not zero carbs. I think I can lose the 100 plus pounds I need to lose just fine on what sugar there is in broccoli, cauliflower and avocados without harming my body.
It won't happen on sugary drinks though.
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chunkster2015 wrote: »Which is better?? I know neither but I need something in my tea!!!
Whichever works and tastes better to you . . . and whichever one works into your calorie and macro targets better.
Personally, I prefer sugar in my tea but I use sweetener in everything else.0 -
menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »menotyou56 wrote: »Sugar is horrible. Avoid whenever possible IMO.
Does that mean you avoid all fruits, veggies, and other carbs?
I eat some veggies. No fruit. That's a lot different than drinking added sugar in a beverage though.
Not to your body. The rest of the components aside (fiber, protein, etc.) sugar is sugar to your body.
Well I'm doing keto not zero carbs. I think I can lose the 100 plus pounds I need to lose just fine on what sugar there is in broccoli, cauliflower and avocados without harming my body.
It won't happen on sugary drinks though.
Keto, weight loss, and sugar are not inherently linked. Keto does not go hand-in-hand with weight loss. You can gain weight on Keto, lose weight drinking sugary drinks, et cetera. If Keto works for you, great, but that has nothing to do with the thread or weight loss in general.4
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