Gaining But Too Afraid to Deficit

marthamayhemmfp
marthamayhemmfp Posts: 22 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
Stats:
26 years old, 5'1, GW: 106 lbs CW: 108.6 llbs

I'm at a loss. I've been painlessly maintaining my weight perfectly for a long time, yet this past month I'm 1.6 lbs heavier than usual. My app shows an upward trend. I'm still in my weight range & I'm comfortable, but I'm worried. I see it all the time. People here declare that they've maintained their weight, but also mention that they're up 5-20lbs and cutting again. I'm just worried if I shrug it off, I'll be one of those people. Usually, after a week or two of a slight (~100 kcal) cut, I'm back at my UGW, but I've made no progress at all. Idk what to do.
I literally weigh everything and double check entries. I've been using my FitBit for exercise calories. I easily walk 20k-35k steps a day (I'm aiming to do a Kennedy March one day), and eat 2k-2.5k calories a day. FitBit usually recommends ~200 more, but I feel like that's too much.
I thought of eating my sedentary 1520 MFP calories without eating back any exercise calories, but I then panic when I see something like "800 kcal left" on FitBit because I haven't had a period since I was 140lbs, and my last one was in October/November 2016 after I took birth control. So, I'm too scared of hurting myself by cutting back any more, but I'm afraid that this 1.6 lbs will become 10 lbs if I don't do anything.
The only change I can think of is that since this January, I stopped doing Fitness Blender videos (I lost interest). But how does that change anything???
What would you all do in my place?

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  • marthamayhemmfp
    marthamayhemmfp Posts: 22 Member
    Theo166 wrote: »
    You shouldn't panic over what is less than 2% of your weight. Just pay attention and adapt. That amount could readily be hormones or some hidden salt you weren't aware of in some food.

    Also, what are your measurements telling you? Maybe you are gaining some muscle.

    Regarding your lack of period, hope you've reviewed this with a doctor.

    My waist is actually .5 inch larger :/
    I did see a doctor, and she said she's seen many other patients like me who lose weight and lose their period too. I was first prescribed progesterone, but when that didn't work, I was give a month's supply of birth control. That did the trick, but after that, nothing. I was too frustrated to go back for help.
    I thought about salt and hormones, but my weight is usually predictable, and I feel like this is. 1.6 lbs of actual fat instead of water.
  • marthamayhemmfp
    marthamayhemmfp Posts: 22 Member
    edited May 2017
    Go see your doctor if you are not menstruating.

    Were you eating back the calorie burn from the fitness blender videos?
    For me, maintaining at100-105 an hour of cardio is about 200 cal, so if I am not working out 60 min my calories would need to drop.
    I have been maintaining for 7 years. If the scale moves up, close to 105, I cut portions slightly for a couple of weeks and that sorts it out.

    Review your logging, and review your exercise cal feed back.
    If you have eaten out frequently, changed your workout routine, are ovulating without menstruating, or have traveled recently, it could be water weight.

    Do see your doc about not getting s period- this is serious and could have long lasting health repercussions.

    Cheers, h.

    I was. FitBit gave me 50-100 calories for Fitness Blender videos (I only did the 20 minute or less videos). I no longer do, of course, now that I no longer do the videos.
    Yeah. A slight cut did it for me too, but I've seen no change all of April. I don't eat out, but I do buy bread from Panera. BUT I weigh it, and use a higher estimate from the USDA website rather than the Panera website.
    I'm dead sure my logging is spot on, and I eat 2k-2.5k calories since I walk 20k-35k steps a day. Is 2k-2.5k for so many steps really too much?
    I did see a doctor, and she said she's seen many other patients like me who lose weight and lose their period too. I was first prescribed progesterone, but when that didn't work, I was give a month's supply of birth control. That did the trick, but after that, nothing. I was too frustrated to go back for help.
  • marthamayhemmfp
    marthamayhemmfp Posts: 22 Member
    edited May 2017
    Its possible that the 1.6 lbs could be linked to whatever it is that is affecting your monthly cycle, such as water retention. If what the doctor gave you didn't help for longer than a month or so, that might be the thing to address first. I'm also voting to visit the doctor again, or getting a second opinion if this one isn't helping, just to rule out issues down the road .

    Hmmm.... I thought no period=no weird fluctuations/retention. I'll look into that. Thanks.
  • SCoil123
    SCoil123 Posts: 2,111 Member
    Its possible that the 1.6 lbs could be linked to whatever it is that is affecting your monthly cycle, such as water retention. If what the doctor gave you didn't help for longer than a month or so, that might be the thing to address first. I'm also voting to visit the doctor again, or getting a second opinion if this one isn't helping, just to rule out issues down the road .

    Hmmm.... I thought no period=no weird fluctuations/retention. I'll look into that. Thanks.

    I only have real cycle and periods every few months for a few years now. I still get PMS and symptoms almost every month though.
  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,486 Member
    edited May 2017
    How are you getting your 20-35k steps a day?
    Work, and it is paced out over an 8 hr period.
    A few half hour strolls during the day?
    A couple of 10km walks at a fast pace?

    I ask because getting in 35k steps at a stroll or stroll + fast pace alternating would have me walking close to 30km (just did a 10 km walking race and logged just over 12000 steps in 90 min) and 35k at non race speed would take me 5-6 hr. that is a lot of walking in one day.

    Your fitbit is giving you an extra 500-1000 cals for your walking and if your burn is short casual accumulated steps you are probably not burning that much.

    You may want to cut back on your extra calories from walking by 100-200.

    I don't keep track of steps or cals anymore, but I will see if I have a record of 20k and let you know what my calorie burn was.

    Also, if you are getting in that amount of steps daily, no rest days, you may have raised cortisol levels. These could interfere with your hormones and also have you retaining water.

    You could look at alternating your walking with an alternate exercise, yoga, lifting, etc, which may decrease the stress.

    Cheers, h.
  • Theo166
    Theo166 Posts: 2,564 Member
    Even if your increase is fat, it's slight, which means you are bouncing around your maintenance level. Just tweak things to tip the balance the other way.

    For consideration, add some interval intensity to your current steps or add on a couple thousand more steps. I'm sure you can find a couple levers to adjust without making major diet changes.
  • getfitchelle
    getfitchelle Posts: 31 Member
    edited May 2017
    How are you getting your 20-35k steps a day?
    Work, and it is paced out over an 8 hr period.
    A few half hour strolls during the day?
    A couple of 10km walks at a fast pace?

    I ask because getting in 35k steps at a stroll or stroll + fast pace alternating would have me walking close to 30km (just did a 10 km walking race and logged just over 12000 steps in 90 min) and 35k at non race speed would take me 5-6 hr. that is a lot of walking in one day.

    She's pretty short though - 30km would be an enormous amount of steps. I'm 4'11" and that would get me about 50,847 steps at my usual pace. My walking stride length is 59cm.

  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,486 Member
    @getfitchelle I'm only 5'1 102lbs and 63yo so I thought going off my stats for walking was a pretty safe bet. Short steps and not the fastest walker even at race speed.
    No idea of my step length as I don't Fitbit etc, but I do know it is shorter at speed than when strolling.

    Cheers, h.
  • marthamayhemmfp
    marthamayhemmfp Posts: 22 Member
    How are you getting your 20-35k steps a day?
    Work, and it is paced out over an 8 hr period.
    A few half hour strolls during the day?
    A couple of 10km walks at a fast pace?

    I ask because getting in 35k steps at a stroll or stroll + fast pace alternating would have me walking close to 30km (just did a 10 km walking race and logged just over 12000 steps in 90 min) and 35k at non race speed would take me 5-6 hr. that is a lot of walking in one day.

    She's pretty short though - 30km would be an enormous amount of steps. I'm 4'11" and that would get me about 50,847 steps at my usual pace. My walking stride length is 59cm.

    I walk 20k-35k STEPS not km. Lol. 30km would be impossible to keep up with daily.
  • marthamayhemmfp
    marthamayhemmfp Posts: 22 Member
    How are you getting your 20-35k steps a day?
    Work, and it is paced out over an 8 hr period.
    A few half hour strolls during the day?
    A couple of 10km walks at a fast pace?

    I ask because getting in 35k steps at a stroll or stroll + fast pace alternating would have me walking close to 30km (just did a 10 km walking race and logged just over 12000 steps in 90 min) and 35k at non race speed would take me 5-6 hr. that is a lot of walking in one day.

    Your fitbit is giving you an extra 500-1000 cals for your walking and if your burn is short casual accumulated steps you are probably not burning that much.

    You may want to cut back on your extra calories from walking by 100-200.

    I don't keep track of steps or cals anymore, but I will see if I have a record of 20k and let you know what my calorie burn was.

    Also, if you are getting in that amount of steps daily, no rest days, you may have raised cortisol levels. These could interfere with your hormones and also have you retaining water.

    You could look at alternating your walking with an alternate exercise, yoga, lifting, etc, which may decrease the stress.

    Cheers, h.

    Thanks for the advice!
    I usually do at least one hour of walking in the mornings before work and walk a couple minutes every hour once I get home from work or while I'm watching Netflix. I pace all the time like when I'm the phone, waiting for dinner to cook, etc. and it all adds up very quickly. On weekends, I make sure to get in steps every hour, and I can fit in an hour of walking in the mornings and evenings.
    I've been hitting the 20k minimum since last summer, and I've been eating back the same percentage of exercise calories, so I find it odd that cortisol would take effect only now and/or that I would suddenly start gaining.
  • middlehaitch
    middlehaitch Posts: 8,486 Member
    If it is only the 1 hr walking and then the rest to take you to 20k steps is done in small chunks cortisone probably won't be coming into play. If you were getting the steps in in one or 2 large chunks it may have been.

    If all else is the same it is probably calorie creep, so shaving a couple of cals here and there, and tightening logging (I know you are tight anyway) should get you back.

    Cheers, h.
  • collectingblues
    collectingblues Posts: 2,541 Member
    Its possible that the 1.6 lbs could be linked to whatever it is that is affecting your monthly cycle, such as water retention. If what the doctor gave you didn't help for longer than a month or so, that might be the thing to address first. I'm also voting to visit the doctor again, or getting a second opinion if this one isn't helping, just to rule out issues down the road .

    Hmmm.... I thought no period=no weird fluctuations/retention. I'll look into that. Thanks.

    Sadly, it's not the case. Mine disappeared last July (in my case, female triad -- basically, overexercising and not fueling the workouts), and it's very common to still get the weird fluctuations and water retention even when you're not getting a true period, or any period at all.

    I thought it wasn't possible either, until I started researching, and then finally asked my dietitian. I hate it.
  • marthamayhemmfp
    marthamayhemmfp Posts: 22 Member
    edited May 2017
    Its possible that the 1.6 lbs could be linked to whatever it is that is affecting your monthly cycle, such as water retention. If what the doctor gave you didn't help for longer than a month or so, that might be the thing to address first. I'm also voting to visit the doctor again, or getting a second opinion if this one isn't helping, just to rule out issues down the road .

    Hmmm.... I thought no period=no weird fluctuations/retention. I'll look into that. Thanks.

    Sadly, it's not the case. Mine disappeared last July (in my case, female triad -- basically, overexercising and not fueling the workouts), and it's very common to still get the weird fluctuations and water retention even when you're not getting a true period, or any period at all.

    I thought it wasn't possible either, until I started researching, and then finally asked my dietitian. I hate it.

    Interesting. I haven't noticed any major/lasting fluctuations, even when I finally got a period last year, but I suppose anything can happen overtime. I'll continue to monitor my weight accordingly.
    If it is only the 1 hr walking and then the rest to take you to 20k steps is done in small chunks cortisone probably won't be coming into play. If you were getting the steps in in one or 2 large chunks it may have been.

    If all else is the same it is probably calorie creep, so shaving a couple of cals here and there, and tightening logging (I know you are tight anyway) should get you back.

    Cheers, h.

    Thanks :)
    Yeah; you're right. Although many people loosen up after reaching maintenance, I still log quite diligently.
    It's just so weird and depressing for me. I finally sat down and looked back at data from one and two years ago, and I was logging 1600-1700 calories for 10k days, 1700-1900 for 10k-16k days, and 1800-2000 for 17k-21k days. All the while, my weight stayed pretty stable.
    I rarely eat something un-weighed, and when I do, I overestimate as usual. It's a bit overboard, but I check my food scale every day with three items whose weight I know, and my bathroom scale I check with dumbbells, so those aren't throwing things off either. My eating of "junk" and whole foods has remained the same, and yet based on my small gain, it looks like 2k-2.5k for 20k-35k steps is too much. The data doesn't lie, but it seems odd to me that I would need very little more (~100?) for thousands of extra steps.
    The only thing I can think of is that I'm burning less calories walking than I did before. I'm going to increase my intensity and/or change how I walk and cut back some more, but first, I'm going to need a mental reset. I've gotten used to eating 2k+ calories for the past year, and even then, I still find portion sizes small. I took 27k steps today, and tried to eat 1500 calories, but ended up eating ~1700 calories. To have to eat less, maybe even 1500 calories, for my high level of activity, is something I thought I wouldn't have to worry about until I was at least 50 years old. Walking is fun, but I do get hungry, so I don't think I could keep walking as much if I have to eat LESS just to maintain. Being short sure can be a pain sometimes. :(
  • lumenosis
    lumenosis Posts: 66 Member
    Could you be pregnant? No period does not always mean not ovulating.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    Its possible that the 1.6 lbs could be linked to whatever it is that is affecting your monthly cycle, such as water retention. If what the doctor gave you didn't help for longer than a month or so, that might be the thing to address first. I'm also voting to visit the doctor again, or getting a second opinion if this one isn't helping, just to rule out issues down the road .

    Hmmm.... I thought no period=no weird fluctuations/retention. I'll look into that. Thanks.

    You can still ovulate even when you're not getting your period (not saying that you are, just that some people do), so it's possible this could be related to your cycle.

    I would still get it checked out though . . . occasionally skipping a period isn't a big deal, but persistent issues like this could be a sign of a potential issue.
  • charlenekapf
    charlenekapf Posts: 309 Member
    Hypothalamic amenorrhea is very common with weight loss. I went from a size 16 to a size 2 and lost my period at a size 4, running daily, strength training a few x a week ,eating around 1600-2200 calories a day. I had to gain a ton of weight back to get back my period. always dealt wit horrible sleep issues for the entire time I lost weight. If you're sleeping OK and able to get your mind off calories eventually, keep doing what you're doing....get a bone scan to ensure you're ok. My OBGYN wasn't too concerned with me not menstruating at the time as she said it's common in athletes, but wanted me to protect my bones.
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