Medium to high activity
Edd1752017
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If my activity is from medium to high , I am trying to lose a lot of body fat , should I eat more than 2500 calories a day , this means good calories
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What are your stats? Where are you getting 2500 calories from?1
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Edd1752017 wrote: »If my activity is from medium to high , I am trying to lose a lot of body fat , should I eat more than 2500 calories a day , this means good calories
What's a "good calorie"?2 -
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H 5,7
W 240 lbs
A 34
Goal W 175 lbs0 -
Calories are simply units of energy - they aren't good or bad.
Your calorie goal is personal to your current stats and the rate of weight loss you selected - none of which you have shared.1 -
I guess you mean this0 -
2500 seems reasonable then. Treat it as a start point from which you can adjust if required based on weight loss results over time.
Remember a couple of things that catch people out:
The activity setting reflects your lifestyle and job only - it excludes exercise. For example if you have a desk job but do a whole load of exercise you are still sedentary activity setting.
If you have a very active job but do no exercise you are still very active setting.
Your calorie goal is actually 2500 + exercise calories - when you exercise you log it (try to make your estimate reasonable) and you get credited with more calories to preserve the calorie deficit/rate of loss you selected.
Good luck.2 -
Thanks , now everything make more sense .0
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Caution.
You selected an activity level that is higher than sedentary. Which is good... if you actually are meeting the activity level requirements.
You currently have a device connected to MFP.
Based on your screenshot the device was estimating that you had burned about 1000 less calories than MFP thought you ought to have burned by the time of the screenshot.
Which is why MFP was suggesting you were out of calories even though you had not yet eaten 2800 Cal.
So either your device had not synchronized or updated, or on the particular day you were not actually active to that particular point of time.6 -
Today went like this , am I doing it right ?
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Edd1752017 wrote: »Today went like this , am I doing it right ?
If you read @PAV8888's reply above this, you'll see you aren't.
Drop your activity level to sedentary or(and) move more. You are not meeting what MFP believes is your maintenance calories (and by quite a lot). You are currently eating at a level that will have you gaining a pound in five weeks.2 -
I will try tomorrow, thanks , still figuring this one out1
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Did it again , this time I have adjusted the activity level , but there's no difference0
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There is a difference - your suggested calories prior to exercise adjustment went down by 800.
The next thing to adjust is how much food you eat. Alternatively, keep on keeping on for a couple of weeks; sometimes devices take a while to become accurate. Maintenance for me is ~2,100 calories plus intentional exercise, and I'm 100 pounds lighter than you are.2 -
Edd1752017 wrote: »Did it again , this time I have adjusted the activity level , but there's no difference
OK.
A quick update since I now see the number of steps you're basing this on.
There exists an issue somewhere in your setup, and more specifically I would look into your settings for your UA activity tracker (or other device) that is counting your ~8.5K steps).
8.5K steps is past the limit of calories that is included in the activity factor that MFP calls "lightly active". Past the limit. In other words most people would be getting a positive adjustment from that level of steps if they had selected "lightly active" on MFP.
I am assuming that "not very active" is what is colloquially known as "sedentary", which means that somewhere between 3,500 and 5,000 steps you should be seeing an increase in available calories as opposed to a decrease in available calories like you are seeing.
In other words there is something wrong with your setup and more specifically I suspect that your settings in whatever app is counting your steps are the ones that are wrong.
Alternatively you are using an app that is producing results that do not agree with the widely supported base settings MFP is using.
(What I am trying to say: MFP NEAT is BMR x AF=1.25. But 8.5K steps is closer to an AF of 1.5. The step counting app is giving calories for an AF of ~1.125 which is clearly wrong given the activity. So it has to either not be using Mifflin St Jeor BMR as its base, or it is mis-configured, or something else unusual is taking place)
Note too that the above discussion has to do with your settings as a general discussion. Individual results will vary and only your own trending weight loss results will tell you whether the base settings are reflective of reality for you or not.1 -
Ok , a friend told me to get my TDEE and input that into my calorie goal and do a 40 carb 40 protein 20 fat for macros , my activity level is just Active , I remove the tracking of the steps , this is what we come up today
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Edd1752017 wrote: »This is today , do I get to eat more or should jus skip dinner
This shows almost 700 calorie out of 2100 are high calorie, nutrient dense foods (soda, donuts, Doritos). If this is normal, might want to work to get 80-90% of your calories from nutrient dense foods.0 -
Your TDEE is your maintenance level of calories. If you eat your TDEE you won't lose weight. (or at least you aren't supposed to either lose or gain weight).
Assuming that weight loss is your goal I strongly suggest that you dump your friend's advice and go back to doing things in a more conventional way.
Your activity tracker has WAY MORE information about you than MFP... or even quite possibly yourself as you may be going by self perception. And self perception can be slightly off.
It is my personal opinion that using an outside reference like a tracker can allow you to establish how accurate the tracker is for you over time and because the tracker is not influenced by your desires this will allow you to more accurately calculate your expenditures.
Part of my answer is influenced by seeing your initial results above. They indicate that you are NOT highly active and you are NOT (yet) consistently active. Not based on what I understand about activity levels and trackers and I've looked into the issue quite a bit these past few years.
Your few days of results would place you somewhere between lightly active and active. At a guess at an activity factor of 1.5 x BMR.
But again, a tracker while not perfect (far from perfect) can give you a level of independent consistency your own self perception might not.
USE MFP's guided setup. Set yourself as lightly active. CONNECT YOUR TRACKER with negative adjustments enabled like you had. Eat as per what MFP and your tracker tell you to. Evaluate your weight loss in a few weeks. Adjust as necessary.
Based on your current weight and TDEE aim for a loss of 1.5lbs a week if you want to go fast and 1lb a week if you're finding restricting your food intake too difficult in the beginning. By the time you're at the mid upper level of overweight by BMI consider switching to 1lb a week if you're set to lose at 1.5lbs a week.
Consistent weight loss between 0.5% and 1% of body weight per week is considered to be optimal in terms of least impact on your body. While morbidly obese the loss can be as high as 1.5% of body weight per week with minimal ill impact. This does not take into account mental toll and does not take into account whether it is sustainable for a particular individual. Anything that keeps you going is preferable to something that leads you to give up and abandon the effort.
Accept MFP's default macros. Consider protein to be a minimum, not a maximum. Consider fiber to be a minimum, not a maximum. Play with the rest to determine what leaves you more full and satiated as you try different combinations of items over time. Adjust the macros down the road once you have the calories and exercise/movement parts more locked in!
Remember that while monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fats are fairly good for you there does exist a considerable body of peer reviewed evidence that suggests that saturated fats are not that great. Most heart associations suggest that only 5% to 6% of calories come from saturated fats and that includes coconut oil that have been peer reviewed to NOT be the second coming of a wonder oil. Go bonkers on eating fish oil.
Translation: if your 20% fat comes from steak, don't go over it. If your 20% fat comes from salmon and you feel like going over.. go right ahead.
I agree with increased protein but there is little evidence to suggest that anything beyond 2x RDA is super necessary. so by the time you hit 0.8g per lb of body weight you are usually well covered. Can you go a bit more? I am sure you can and you can also go a bit lower too at times. Guide yourself by satiation and preference.
Review your food logging. Chose entries you double check and verify and use a food scale when at home. It is definitely eye opening.
Use a trending weight app to evaluate how your weight level is changing over time. Libra Android, happy scale iphone, www.trendweight.com (free fitbit.com account possibly needed--no band or device necessary) or www.weightgrapher.com are a few I know work fairly well. (I tell weightgrapher I want to maintain as I don't like suggestions about what to do)
I use the following spreadsheet to evaluate a % error for my tracker based on the accuracy of my logging over time: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14k_zGWeklpl05lNqSWN_SK1XzuwnmVHtUfW8Eao5kIE/edit?usp=sharing5 -
If I use my TDEE as a guide line and consume 500 less than I am supposed to , would that create a calorie deficit, of course keeping in mind the macros right0
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Edd1752017 wrote: »If I use my TDEE as a guide line and consume 500 less than I am supposed to , would that create a calorie deficit, of course keeping in mind the macros right
yes thats generally how its done.1
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