One week in, high deficit, no weight loss
pawel3535
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Hey guys, I'm not too worried about my weight loss right now as I have just started so my answer can be as simple as water fluctuations however I'm a little confused as to why no weight has come off with the deficit that I'm at.
I have my app set to losing 1kg per week and usually end the day with about 600 calories left before the daily deficit goal (I don't starve my self, have plenty of energy from the food I eat) however if I did the maths correctly, I created a deficit of about 8500-9000 calories in the last seven days with my weight still being in the same spot or like .1kg lower.
Is this something that is regular for beginners?
Oh and in case your wondering how I'm getting this high of a deficit in (if it is high, I'm not too sure really), I'm currently at 146kg so I can comfortably cut my intake by up to 1500-2000 calories and still feel good.
Thanks guys
I have my app set to losing 1kg per week and usually end the day with about 600 calories left before the daily deficit goal (I don't starve my self, have plenty of energy from the food I eat) however if I did the maths correctly, I created a deficit of about 8500-9000 calories in the last seven days with my weight still being in the same spot or like .1kg lower.
Is this something that is regular for beginners?
Oh and in case your wondering how I'm getting this high of a deficit in (if it is high, I'm not too sure really), I'm currently at 146kg so I can comfortably cut my intake by up to 1500-2000 calories and still feel good.
Thanks guys
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Step 1: Use this chart
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A 9000 calorie deficit is pretty insane unless you are 200+ lbs, extremely active and starving yourself.
Generally, weight loss is not linear and you need to patient.3 -
trigden1991 wrote: »A 9000 calorie deficit is pretty insane unless you are 200+ lbs, extremely active and starving yourself.
OP is 321 pounds. 9,000 calories per week of deficit would result in a 0.8% of body weight per week rate of loss.5 -
Despite the large deficit, I think you'll still need more time to start seeing anything. Like you said, fluctuations, bowel movements, water retention, etc... trust the process!
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nicholerohrer wrote: »Despite the large deficit, I think you'll still need more time to start seeing anything. Like you said, fluctuations, bowel movements, water retention, etc... trust the process!
I'll keep on grinding, thank you for the response
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Yeah it can certainly take a while to see results. Generally I'm pretty "spurty" in that I'll stay the same general weight for a while, then suddenly drop.
Keep on doing what you're doing! Eventually you'll have a day where you're in the bathroom more than usual, and your next weigh in will be quite surprising!3 -
One theory is that fat cells get filled with water once the fat inside them is burned. The water eventually filters out, but it delays results on the scale.8
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One theory is that fat cells get filled with water once the fat inside them is burned. The water eventually filters out, but it delays results on the scale.
I assume the rate of that starts to drop after a few weeks and the fat starts coming of regularly (granted that I continue doing what I'm doing now) where I'll see steady results for a good bit of time until my deficit no longer gets the job done right?0 -
Yeah it can certainly take a while to see results. Generally I'm pretty "spurty" in that I'll stay the same general weight for a while, then suddenly drop.
Keep on doing what you're doing! Eventually you'll have a day where you're in the bathroom more than usual, and your next weigh in will be quite surprising!
I look forward to that, it can be a real bummer to feel how hard you are working on something and not seeing the weight come of, the time will come!
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if you 're 320lbs you didnt put that all on in a week, so it wont come off in a week either.9
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Keep going. The weight loss game involves a learning curve.0
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trigden1991 wrote: »A 9000 calorie deficit is pretty insane unless you are 200+ lbs, extremely active and starving yourself.
OP is 321 pounds. 9,000 calories per week of deficit would result in a 0.8% of body weight per week rate of loss.
I didn't mention anything about how much weight the OP would lose.
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One theory is that fat cells get filled with water once the fat inside them is burned. The water eventually filters out, but it delays results on the scale.
I assume the rate of that starts to drop after a few weeks and the fat starts coming of regularly (granted that I continue doing what I'm doing now) where I'll see steady results for a good bit of time until my deficit no longer gets the job done right?
I've found that even though the process is steady, the results can be far from it, and far from predictable, unless you look at long-term trend. The water fluctuation alone is an impossible process to fully regulate. It's just part of the process. So be prepared not to assume anything in the short term - and to not make rash decisions in the short-term either.2 -
One theory is that fat cells get filled with water once the fat inside them is burned. The water eventually filters out, but it delays results on the scale.
That's interesting... I remember that the first couple of weeks of The New Regime, when I was on an insane deficit (I skirted anorexic thinking; definitely not advised), I was really, really thirsty the whole time. Definitely not hungry, definitely thirsty. I wonder whether that was something to do with that replacement?0 -
One theory is that fat cells get filled with water once the fat inside them is burned. The water eventually filters out, but it delays results on the scale.
This actually doesn't happen. There was a thread on this a few months back, but in short fat cells don't have the capacity to hold extra water.
Having said that, whatever the mechanism is, it does seem to work that way. I'll be 2 weeks bouncing around one weight and then drop 3-4 pound over a couple of days. I'm ~240 right now and, despite targeting 1.5 lb per week loss, I won't see it for at least another week.
I'll admit that I'm a bit surprised the OP has this happening now. When I was plus 300 the weight poured off almost daily3 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »One theory is that fat cells get filled with water once the fat inside them is burned. The water eventually filters out, but it delays results on the scale.
This actually doesn't happen. There was a thread on this a few months back, but in short fat cells don't have the capacity to hold extra water.
Having said that, whatever the mechanism is, it does seem to work that way. I'll be 2 weeks bouncing around one weight and then drop 3-4 pound over a couple of days. I'm ~240 right now and, despite targeting 1.5 lb per week loss, I won't see it for at least another week.
I'll admit that I'm a bit surprised the OP has this happening now. When I was plus 300 the weight poured off almost daily
I think there was a lack of knowledge of lipocyte physiology when the original speculation was made. However, adipose tissue is capable of highly variable water content in the extracellular space. There has been one study indicating weight loss negatively correlates with adipose tissue water content in specific circumstances (this doesn't seem to be field of particular interest):
nature.com/ijo/journal/v27/n6/full/0802296a.html
CONCLUSIONS: Water content of abdominal subcutaneous adipose tissue increases with weight loss in obese persons with the metabolic syndrome, and may reflect increased subcutaneous fat tissue nutritive blood flow. The increase in water content correlates with the increase in insulin sensitivity, suggesting that weight loss and consequent improved insulin sensitivity could mediate the increase in abdominal subcutaneous fat hydration.
I haven't found any other studies looking at this during weight loss in humans. Interesting to conjecture that this might hold true for those without metabolic syndrome and/or non-obese. Non-linear water content increase would explain both the 'squishy fat' and 'whoosh' phenomena nicely.5 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »One theory is that fat cells get filled with water once the fat inside them is burned. The water eventually filters out, but it delays results on the scale.
This actually doesn't happen. There was a thread on this a few months back, but in short fat cells don't have the capacity to hold extra water.
Having said that, whatever the mechanism is, it does seem to work that way. I'll be 2 weeks bouncing around one weight and then drop 3-4 pound over a couple of days. I'm ~240 right now and, despite targeting 1.5 lb per week loss, I won't see it for at least another week.
I'll admit that I'm a bit surprised the OP has this happening now. When I was plus 300 the weight poured off almost daily
I've done this weight loss thing once before (I was 300 dead on) and the weight came off very easily starting with the first week which is why I was confused why it hasn't happened this time.
I guess it's punishment for slacking off and going back up to 300+ in the space of like 6 months.
I'll keep you guys posted with when it starts to drop, one thing that most certainly isn't helping is my horrible bowel movements (can't complete in one session, need to space out 3 across the space of about 2 hours but that's an issue that I've had for ages now).
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Little update, I've created a 17000 calorie deficit since first writing this post.
Sadly still no lost weight however I'll give it another week or two for the 3 week/ 1 month mark and I'll see whether I start burning through.
After that I'll start doing what I did last year to first lose weight (run my *kitten* off on a treadmill for 6 days per week).0 -
Would you be willing to open your food journal?
How are you determining portion sizes. Are you using a food scale? Do you log as you eat or do you wait until the end of the day and try to remember? Are you logging every single day?1 -
How many calories does MFP allow you to have each day? How many calories are you actually eating each day?0
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Are you drinking 2-3 litres of water a day?. That might curb the hunger and help flush out toxins etc .
Can you get a bit more active?. Im no expert but I think exercise combined with the diet may speed things up a bit.
Have you had your thyroid levels checked ? An underactive makes it more difficult ( not impossible ) to lose weight as it slows your metabolism down.
Good luck , don't give up , you did it before so you can do it again.1 -
Hey guys, I'm not too worried about my weight loss right now as I have just started so my answer can be as simple as water fluctuations however I'm a little confused as to why no weight has come off with the deficit that I'm at.
I have my app set to losing 1kg per week and usually end the day with about 600 calories left before the daily deficit goal (I don't starve my self, have plenty of energy from the food I eat) however if I did the maths correctly, I created a deficit of about 8500-9000 calories in the last seven days with my weight still being in the same spot or like .1kg lower.
Is this something that is regular for beginners?
Oh and in case your wondering how I'm getting this high of a deficit in (if it is high, I'm not too sure really), I'm currently at 146kg so I can comfortably cut my intake by up to 1500-2000 calories and still feel good.
Thanks guys
It can take awhile for some people to see much of a loss. If you do not see a loss in 3-4 weeks make adjustments.
If you have started new exercise you could be retaining water. There are other things that can cause water retention.
I would just keep on with what you are doing for a couple of weeks.
First thing to look at if you ars not losing would be the accuracy of your logging. Use a food scale instead of measuring cups and spoons. Make sure you log everything and that the entries you choose are correct.0 -
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I have bounced around 2-3lbs over what my weight was before starting some lifting exercise 2 was ago that is new for me so if you started exercising it definitely could mask any loss with water retained for muscle repairs:^)0
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Would you be willing to open your food journal?
How are you determining portion sizes. Are you using a food scale? Do you log as you eat or do you wait until the end of the day and try to remember? Are you logging every single day?
I scale all the foods that I eat and cook from home, sometimes I log as I eat other times I log at the end of the day however my meals are planned out so it's easy to remember
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Allows 2000 per day for a 1kg per week loss, I usually end up with about 400-600 calories left and lots of energy at the end of the daynjitaliana wrote: »How many calories does MFP allow you to have each day? How many calories are you actually eating each day?
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Are you drinking 2-3 litres of water a day?. That might curb the hunger and help flush out toxins etc .
Can you get a bit more active?. Im no expert but I think exercise combined with the diet may speed things up a bit.
Have you had your thyroid levels checked ? An underactive makes it more difficult ( not impossible ) to lose weight as it slows your metabolism down.
Good luck , don't give up , you did it before so you can do it again.
I'm usually at 2.5 litres per day, I had a rather large blood test a month ago that checked me out for a lot of stuff including diabetes and my thyroid levels...sadly (in this case when it comes to thyroids), everything is as it should be in a healthy person.1 -
suzannesimmons3 wrote: »Little update, I've created a 17000 calorie deficit since first writing this post.
Sadly still no lost weight however I'll give it another week or two for the 3 week/ 1 month mark and I'll see whether I start burning through.
After that I'll start doing what I did last year to first lose weight (run my *kitten* off on a treadmill for 6 days per week).
17000. ....thats burning 2500 calories a day after you take your food into account.....are you eating at all?
I can confirm that I'm not starving my self and always have the energy to go to the gym or continue on doing other stuff after work
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suzannesimmons3 wrote: »Little update, I've created a 17000 calorie deficit since first writing this post.
Sadly still no lost weight however I'll give it another week or two for the 3 week/ 1 month mark and I'll see whether I start burning through.
After that I'll start doing what I did last year to first lose weight (run my *kitten* off on a treadmill for 6 days per week).
17000. ....thats burning 2500 calories a day after you take your food into account.....are you eating at all?
I did have a few days recently where I didn't eat much because of incredibly busy days which probably contributed to like 3000 of those calories however even then I didn't feel out of energy or hungry.
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Would you be willing to open your food journal?
How are you determining portion sizes. Are you using a food scale? Do you log as you eat or do you wait until the end of the day and try to remember? Are you logging every single day?
Just opened the diary, you'll find that some days I've allowed my self a sub or some wedges but I keep it within all my daily macro goals.
Some days won't have anything other than breakfast put in simply because I was very busy however I've still been eating the stuff I logged previously on those days
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