Homeopathy & Herbal Supplements ?

bikecheryl
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Just wondering if anyone has worked with a homeopath?
Do you take any herbal supplements to aid in your weight loss/maintenance/digestion?
What do you take and why?
What are your thoughts on the subject?
I just wondered as a very close friend of mine worked with an established homeopathic Dr when he was diagnosed with a brain tumor. He was told he had 3-6 months to live THREE TIMES. It's been over 15 years and he's doing great. He said they literally starved the tumor. He's one of a handful of people in the world to have lived this long with the type of tumor he has.
Thanks in advance for your input.
Do you take any herbal supplements to aid in your weight loss/maintenance/digestion?
What do you take and why?
What are your thoughts on the subject?
I just wondered as a very close friend of mine worked with an established homeopathic Dr when he was diagnosed with a brain tumor. He was told he had 3-6 months to live THREE TIMES. It's been over 15 years and he's doing great. He said they literally starved the tumor. He's one of a handful of people in the world to have lived this long with the type of tumor he has.
Thanks in advance for your input.
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Nothing works better than homeopathy.7
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Either your friend did not have the issue described or something else happened (where they also seeing a real doctor at the same time?).
Homeopathy is sudo-sciences. Nonsense. *kitten*. How else can one describe its dangerous lies?
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I'm not a fan. Most of it seems like a money-grab for gullible people who think natural = better.
Prescription drugs go through rigorous formulation and testing to insure its safe. Doctors go through years and years of schooling to practice safe practices. I trust them much more than random "natural supplements" that don't have any scientific backing or studies proving efficacy. If they were so great, they'd be regulated, flying off store shelves, and recommended by doctors everywhere.5 -
A casual friend of mine swears by it. Says she gave a homeopathic remedy to a sick cat who responded well (and claims this proves it's not just placebo). Since she's never tried to push the remedies onto me—more like, "Are you open to alternative medicine? Because I've studied homeopathy..." and when I tell her I'm not, she accepts it and drops the subject—we remain friends, and I don't tell her to her face that I think it's all a load of *kitten*.0
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You can't cure a fatal brain tumor with homeopathy. If that were the case, do you think ANY cancer patient would allow poison to be pumped through their body, only to have the possibility of a reoccurant cancer DUE to said poison??? No!4
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Homeopathy is pseudoscience and complete new age nonsense with absolutley ZERO scientific efficacy. This is hardly a new or original observation, as it has dismissed by the scientific and medical community for decades now. That it continues to persist to this day is testimony to the inherent gullibility of much of the public.
https://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/homeo.html4 -
They range from useless to actively harmful in my opinion3
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They range from useless to actively harmful in my opinion
Biggest issue I have with most "remedies" is that there is little to no regulation on them and you have no idea what they may actually contain, including known allergens not listed on the labels.
So, yeah. I agree they range from useless to actually harmful.2 -
Either the "medications" are so diluted they're essentially water:
https://nccih.nih.gov/health/homeopathy
Or they could cause death:
http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/14/health/hylands-teething-tablet-fda-recall-bn/
Either way I can tell you that if something actually aided weight loss to any significant degree doctors would be spreading it like wildfire and nobody would be obese. I wouldn't gamble with my health by taking something like that since there is no regulation.3 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »They range from useless to actively harmful in my opinion
Biggest issue I have with most "remedies" is that there is little to no regulation on them and you have no idea what they may actually contain, including known allergens not listed on the labels.
So, yeah. I agree they range from useless to actually harmful.
I agree with this, too.
My MIL says her brother "cured" his pancreatic cancer by going on the alkaline diet. I don't buy it. I've studied too much biology, chemistry, and physics (and only have a physics minor, so not a whole lot of any of them) to believe most of the miraculous claims.
I do take a multivitamin. But that's it.1 -
Homeopathy is a complete farce and I'd run far and fast from any quack who advocated/"prescribed" it.2
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I work at a health-food-type store, so I suppose that I'm a little biased, but I've seen a lot of people derive benefit from homeopathic/herbal remedies and supplements. Personally, I've used T-Relief (it used to be called Traumeel before the name change?) and protoelytic enzymes when I experienced a bad flare up of tendinitis in one of my feet, and it really helped take the edge of the pain enough that I could walk normally without having to take NSAIDs. A friend of mine was also able to get off of her anxiety medication after finding a combination of GABA/L-Theanine/flower extracts that worked for her.2
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I put no stock in it as far as claims to assist with weight loss or cure disease. I'll only MAYBE believe that it could help with mental state/mood, although largely due to the placebo affect. For instance, drinking wheatgrass will give you vitamins and minerals and make you feel good, but only CICO will help you lose weight.2
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All I can say is wow. Thanks all for your thoughtful responses. I won't bother arguing or debating but I do appreciate your input.0
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For anyone on the fence about this nonsense I urge you to view these videos. While the presenter is rather boring and not as entertaining as the snake oil salesmen that push this garbage on folks, it does lay out the history and presents the reasons why 'alternative medicine' is not really viable. If 'alternative medicine' worked, it would be called 'medicine'.1
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Homeopathy is made up nonsense.
Herbals however do have some benefit to some people.
Healthy bacteria people find aids stomach problems and digestion.
Multi vitamins to ward off any deficiencies etc.
None work for weight loss that are still legal.1 -
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bikecheryl wrote: »All I can say is wow. Thanks all for your thoughtful responses. I won't bother arguing or debating but I do appreciate your input.
I'm not picking on you, but there is nothing to debate. See, this offends me. When I went through chemo, I had to wear a chemo bag because it had to run through my system 24/7 for 5 days each time I had a treatment. THAT is what kills cancer cells. Not herbal supplements. Val Kilmer just came out and said that prayer just cured his brain tumor. It's the same premise, and it offends me. Like any oncologist wants to sit there with their patient and start listing all the side effects that are going to take place will undergoing treatment. None of them, in that same conversation say "Or, we can just treat you with homeopathy, you will have no side effects, and we can cure you". Total and utter b*llsh*t.6 -
I agree that herbal supplements can have minor benefits for some people - ginger for nausea or camomile tea for relaxation, for example.
But weight loss or cancer cures?? - No.5
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