Giving up cane sugar
Kghaines
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Has anyone else made the leap to a white sugar-less lifestyle? What can I expect and how can I overcome cravings? I have been trying to but my weak willpower is holding me back...I'm replacing the sugar with fruit, but binge when I get the chance. 
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Sugar is sugar, so I'd ask myself why I'd want to give up white sugar.15
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Who eats straight white sugar anyway?6
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I gave up soda because at 3-6 12 oz cans per day I was way over doing the sugar, but other than that I haven't given up cane sugar/added sugar...though I don't have much of it. I usually have a sugar treat at some point most days...usually one of those mini candy bars or like today at lunch I had a homemade chocolate chip cookie with my 1st grader for graduation.
Sugar in and of itself isn't this evil and scary thing...it's over consumption that is not good. I personally don't know anyone who has had success never having anything with added sugar ever again...seems crazy to me and completely unnecessary.7 -
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Have you tried limiting it instead of cutting it out altogether? Like allowing yourself 2 cookies per day only. That might help prevent a binge since you will have tomorrow's cookies to look forward to when today's have been eaten, rather than thinking "I can never have a cookie again, I must eat ALL the cookies now."7
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kommodevaran wrote: »Sugar is sugar, so I'd ask myself why I'd want to give up white sugar.
Because maybe she overeats chocolate and candy. Not macintosh apples and blueberries. Imagine that!
So wouldn't she just adjust her calories to account for the chocolate and candy she enjoys instead of putting on unnecessary restrictions that cause binging? You know it is possible to lose weight while having both chocolates and blueberries. And overeating on apples and blueberries will cause weight gain just as easily as chocolate. Demonizing food is just unnecessary and in the OPs case is leading to issues such as binging.
I personally feel that people adopt these over restrictive rules that have no meaning just to have an excuse as to why they can't lose weight. If you make it so overly complicated that you're guaranteed failure it isn't your fault if you don't lose weight, right?5 -
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Has anyone else made the leap to a white sugar-less lifestyle? What can I expect and how can I overcome cravings? I have been trying to but my weak willpower is holding me back...I'm replacing the sugar with fruit, but binge when I get the chance.
They're all going to tell you you're wrong for wanting to do this. That sugar in a grape is the same as the sugar in a slice of frosted chocolate cake. They'll tell you if you don't have a problem overeating grapes, that you don't have a problem overeating frosted chocolate cake. They'll argue you down to the ground. It's a losing battle to discuss this here. Sorry. I understand your struggle but that's the way it is at MFP.
I find this very true. It's unfortunate, but true.6 -
Temporary elimination may help you lose weight. Permanent elimination may help you keep the weight you lose off. I couldn't do permanent elimination, so it would never be a lifestyle change for me.5
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zachbonner_ wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Have you tried limiting it instead of cutting it out altogether? Like allowing yourself 2 cookies per day only. That might help prevent a binge since you will have tomorrow's cookies to look forward to when today's have been eaten, rather than thinking "I can never have a cookie again, I must eat ALL the cookies now."
I assume you haven't dealt with binging before
It depends on what you mean. I have no personal experience with BED, but I have seen people binge eat because they've deprived themselves many times.5 -
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zachbonner_ wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »zachbonner_ wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Have you tried limiting it instead of cutting it out altogether? Like allowing yourself 2 cookies per day only. That might help prevent a binge since you will have tomorrow's cookies to look forward to when today's have been eaten, rather than thinking "I can never have a cookie again, I must eat ALL the cookies now."
I assume you haven't dealt with binging before
It depends on what you mean. I have no personal experience with BED, but I have seen people binge eat because they've deprived themselves many times.
Personal experience
The OP did not say she has BED.0 -
There are many reasons to give up white sugar or all sugar, like a Type II Diabetes diagnoses, for instance, however, in practice, it is almost impossible to do. Sugar is sugar whether it comes in the form of fructose, high-fructose corn syrup, barley malt, dextrose, maltose or rice syrup. It is in almost every processed or packaged food you buy, so even if you give up the sugar bowl at the table, you are still getting some in your diet. Use the macro settings in MyFitnessPal to monitor your intake of sugar and see where the big "sugar bombs" in your daily meals are and then adjust accordingly to lower your intake. Cutting it out completely, though, that's tough.1
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zachbonner_ wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »zachbonner_ wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Have you tried limiting it instead of cutting it out altogether? Like allowing yourself 2 cookies per day only. That might help prevent a binge since you will have tomorrow's cookies to look forward to when today's have been eaten, rather than thinking "I can never have a cookie again, I must eat ALL the cookies now."
I assume you haven't dealt with binging before
It depends on what you mean. I have no personal experience with BED, but I have seen people binge eat because they've deprived themselves many times.
Personal experience
I'm a woman. I've had PMS. I have binged.3 -
Ready2Rock206 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »Sugar is sugar, so I'd ask myself why I'd want to give up white sugar.
Because maybe she overeats chocolate and candy. Not macintosh apples and blueberries. Imagine that!
So wouldn't she just adjust her calories to account for the chocolate and candy she enjoys instead of putting on unnecessary restrictions that cause binging? You know it is possible to lose weight while having both chocolates and blueberries. And overeating on apples and blueberries will cause weight gain just as easily as chocolate. Demonizing food is just unnecessary and in the OPs case is leading to issues such as binging.
I personally feel that people adopt these over restrictive rules that have no meaning just to have an excuse as to why they can't lose weight. If you make it so overly complicated that you're guaranteed failure it isn't your fault if you don't lose weight, right?
Righto, this argument again. Because everyone knows, most people are downing entire bags of grapefruits. Not bags of Hershey's miniatures. Fruit is in the same category as Drake's Devil Dogs because it has sugar and sugar is just sugar and people need to parse it out like a teller or they're out of control morons who don't know any better. People are fat from eating too much fruit and too many celery sticks and too much steamed broccoli and buckets of broiled skinless chicken breast. Got it.
There was just a thread yesterday about someone who ate like 500 calories of oranges a day. Lets not pretend everyone is just shoveling cake in their face for every meal. Why do you think WW has so many unsuccessful people - because free fruit so people are eating hundreds of calories of it a day. Sure - you're more likely to overeat on other stuff but lets not pretend fruit doesn't have calories. Anyway - you just want to argue and throw a little tantrum so go for it.7 -
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Ready2Rock206 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »Sugar is sugar, so I'd ask myself why I'd want to give up white sugar.
Because maybe she overeats chocolate and candy. Not macintosh apples and blueberries. Imagine that!
So wouldn't she just adjust her calories to account for the chocolate and candy she enjoys instead of putting on unnecessary restrictions that cause binging? You know it is possible to lose weight while having both chocolates and blueberries. And overeating on apples and blueberries will cause weight gain just as easily as chocolate. Demonizing food is just unnecessary and in the OPs case is leading to issues such as binging.
I personally feel that people adopt these over restrictive rules that have no meaning just to have an excuse as to why they can't lose weight. If you make it so overly complicated that you're guaranteed failure it isn't your fault if you don't lose weight, right?
Righto, this argument again. Because everyone knows, most people are downing entire bags of grapefruits. Not bags of Hershey's miniatures. Fruit is in the same category as Drake's Devil Dogs because it has sugar and sugar is just sugar and people need to parse it out like a teller or they're out of control morons who don't know any better. People are fat from eating too much fruit and too many celery sticks and too much steamed broccoli and buckets of broiled skinless chicken breast. Got it.
I had a co-worker eating POUNDS of grapes day in and day out because they were fat-free. This was back in the day when low fat was all the rage. If you have a tendency to over eat.....you have a tendency to over eat. No, I'm not going to binge on broccoli, but I'll grab a bag of chips. Normally chips aren't my thing, I can take them or leave them.....but eliminate enough of my favorite foods.............
Point is elimination is a crappy strategy more often than not. I won't say 0% have ever been successful, but I would bet it's very low (given that the vast majority of people re-gain the weight they lost).3 -
zachbonner_ wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »zachbonner_ wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »zachbonner_ wrote: »Need2Exerc1se wrote: »Have you tried limiting it instead of cutting it out altogether? Like allowing yourself 2 cookies per day only. That might help prevent a binge since you will have tomorrow's cookies to look forward to when today's have been eaten, rather than thinking "I can never have a cookie again, I must eat ALL the cookies now."
I assume you haven't dealt with binging before
It depends on what you mean. I have no personal experience with BED, but I have seen people binge eat because they've deprived themselves many times.
Personal experience
I'm a woman. I've had PMS. I have binged.
Right, that's not a BED, that's hormones
Again, the OP has not mentioned BED.4 -
If your goal is to eat less processed foods it might be nice to replace them with things you don't binge on but still find taste great. When I started eating less carbs and more protein and fats I craved carbs SO bad, so I still had one whole wheat tortilla for lunch or dinner instead of bread, of which I would eat way too much. Then I replaced that with bean mixes, which are more nutrient dense. Then two weeks later I replaced my oatmeal with a home made seed bar. Now I'm off bread/white potatoes/etc, don't crave them anymore and feel way better. Going cold turkey is hard! Baby steps are much easier
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I stopped overeating chocolate and candy when I stopped trying to adhere to random restrictions. Until then I'd always suffered from insane cravings. Now they're manageable. I can even eat frozen berries with just a little (white) sugar on top. Imagine that.kommodevaran wrote: »Sugar is sugar, so I'd ask myself why I'd want to give up white sugar.
Because maybe she overeats chocolate and candy. Not macintosh apples and blueberries. Imagine that!7 -
OP, you don't say if your goal is to cut down on overall added sugars in your diet, or if you're focusing specifically on white cane sugar for a particular reason. As someone else pointed out, white sugar is no different from eating blue agave, maple syrup, honey, brown sugar and other forms of sugar. I personally believe that reducing the amount of added sugars you eat (which are sugars that don't naturally occur in food, such as fruit) is a good idea. But there is so much of it added to nearly anything packaged (bread, soup, sauces, the list is endless) that it's extremely hard. And in my opinion not necessary to try to eliminate completely, unless you have a health issue that necessitates it.2
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A bit confused here. Sugar is sugar regardless if it's cane sugar, beet sugar, sugar from fruit, etc. Figure out your reason to give up sugar (mine is to be a bit healthier and stave off Type II diabetes that runs in the family) and then make your meal plans around it. I try to limit my sugar to 35g per day and most often come in at about 20. That leaves no room for a piece of fruit - which I indulge in once to twice per week. Once you know YOUR why - you'll be able to adjust with (relative) ease.2
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kommodevaran wrote: »
I stopped overeating chocolate and candy when I stopped trying to adhere to random restrictions. Until then I'd always suffered from insane cravings. Now they're manageable. I can even eat frozen berries with just a little (white) sugar on top. Imagine that.kommodevaran wrote: »Sugar is sugar, so I'd ask myself why I'd want to give up white sugar.
Because maybe she overeats chocolate and candy. Not macintosh apples and blueberries. Imagine that!
Yet other people experience these things quite differently and are grown adults and perhaps have a sense of their own personal history and an awareness of what hasn't worked for them. So, for such individuals, giving up cane sugar might just be a terrific idea. But not necessary for you personally. Imagine that.
Why so passive aggressive?
Many people think they "have" to give up something because main stream media makes them believe that is the only way to lose weight. That can make some people miserable. Nothing wrong with correcting the false information out there.13 -
A bit confused here. Sugar is sugar regardless if it's cane sugar, beet sugar, sugar from fruit, etc. Figure out your reason to give up sugar (mine is to be a bit healthier and stave off Type II diabetes that runs in the family) and then make your meal plans around it. I try to limit my sugar to 35g per day and most often come in at about 20. That leaves no room for a piece of fruit - which I indulge in once to twice per week. Once you know YOUR why - you'll be able to adjust with (relative) ease.
I don't see why you'd be confused. Sugar is not all the same even if it's removed from it's source and eaten alone. There are differences in types of sugar (that's why they have different names). But the real issue is that they are not eaten in isolation. Sugar from fruit is eaten as part of the fruit. It's not added sugar.
Also, the OP gave the reasons she wants to give it up. She's trying to break the cycle of binge eating things made with white sugar.2 -
The usual story is that the grown adult has read or heard something and taken it as gospel, without understanding any of the mechanics, and ends up struggling to stick to unnecessary rules, fail, and blame themselves for failing. It's much easier to educate oneself, find out what you want, and how to get it, and then make a realistic plan.kommodevaran wrote: »
I stopped overeating chocolate and candy when I stopped trying to adhere to random restrictions. Until then I'd always suffered from insane cravings. Now they're manageable. I can even eat frozen berries with just a little (white) sugar on top. Imagine that.kommodevaran wrote: »Sugar is sugar, so I'd ask myself why I'd want to give up white sugar.
Because maybe she overeats chocolate and candy. Not macintosh apples and blueberries. Imagine that!
Yet other people experience these things quite differently and are grown adults and perhaps have a sense of their own personal history and an awareness of what hasn't worked for them. So, for such individuals, giving up cane sugar might just be a terrific idea. But not necessary for you personally. Imagine that.10 -
I cut out added sugar, (sweets) about 6 weeks ago because if I even have a little I tend to bing, and have horrible cravings. It is interesting however that as I've been away from it I don't have any cravings at all. I do eat 3/4 servings of fruit a day, and that does satisfy me. I understand the cravings, but for me the only way to get away from them is to stop the added sugar completely.2
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I cut out added sugar, (sweets) about 6 weeks ago because if I even have a little I tend to bing, and have horrible cravings. It is interesting however that as I've been away from it I don't have any cravings at all. I do eat 3/4 servings of fruit a day, and that does satisfy me. I understand the cravings, but for me the only way to get away from them is to stop the added sugar completely.
This story is as common as those who insist people not deprive themselves. People are different.1 -
kommodevaran wrote: »
I stopped overeating chocolate and candy when I stopped trying to adhere to random restrictions. Until then I'd always suffered from insane cravings. Now they're manageable. I can even eat frozen berries with just a little (white) sugar on top. Imagine that.kommodevaran wrote: »Sugar is sugar, so I'd ask myself why I'd want to give up white sugar.
Because maybe she overeats chocolate and candy. Not macintosh apples and blueberries. Imagine that!
Yet other people experience these things quite differently and are grown adults and perhaps have a sense of their own personal history and an awareness of what hasn't worked for them. So, for such individuals, giving up cane sugar might just be a terrific idea. But not necessary for you personally. Imagine that.
Why so passive aggressive?
Many people think they "have" to give up something because main stream media makes them believe that is the only way to lose weight. That can make some people miserable. Nothing wrong with correcting the false information out there.
Yes. Tell OP her desire to give up cane sugar is a false one false based on false information. I mean, unless she's right. Then what? Oh wait. Anecdotal!! Nevermind.
You are purposely misreading what people write. Sorry but I don't want to play that childish game. Have a good day.8 -
Ready2Rock206 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »Sugar is sugar, so I'd ask myself why I'd want to give up white sugar.
Because maybe she overeats chocolate and candy. Not macintosh apples and blueberries. Imagine that!
So wouldn't she just adjust her calories to account for the chocolate and candy she enjoys instead of putting on unnecessary restrictions that cause binging? You know it is possible to lose weight while having both chocolates and blueberries. And overeating on apples and blueberries will cause weight gain just as easily as chocolate. Demonizing food is just unnecessary and in the OPs case is leading to issues such as binging.
I personally feel that people adopt these over restrictive rules that have no meaning just to have an excuse as to why they can't lose weight. If you make it so overly complicated that you're guaranteed failure it isn't your fault if you don't lose weight, right?
Righto, this argument again. Because everyone knows, most people are downing entire bags of grapefruits. Not bags of Hershey's miniatures. Fruit is in the same category as Drake's Devil Dogs because it has sugar and sugar is just sugar and people need to parse it out like a teller or they're out of control morons who don't know any better. People are fat from eating too much fruit and too many celery sticks and too much steamed broccoli and buckets of broiled skinless chicken breast. Got it.
I ate almost 2lbs of cherries yesterday. No way could I do that with Hershey's miniatures (because, yuck).
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