afraid of carbs

Just going to chime in as another user that has better results eating carbs than I ever did on keto. Both in numbers and well being.

Nothing wrong with carbs. If cutting carbs was the real answer to weight loss why would sooooo many people be struggling with their weight? Its a gimmick. All those low carb diets are trash. Most diet fads are trash.

I'm sorry but every time I see the title of this thread I visualise a slice of bread with a knife, lurking down alleyways, waiting to jump out and stab people.

I find it rather ridiculous to be afraid of a food/macro. Unless that food/macro is going to kill you (allergy or something), what exactly is there to be afraid of?

calories and calories are NOT the same: http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2012/06/when-a-calorie-is-not-just-a-calorie/

This one is for sure:

Orphia wrote: »

kikkipoo wrote: »

I see most referring specifically to weight loss but the real issue should be about health. In that sense I think it is perfectly warranted to be aware of where your calories are coming from and deliberate about the type of carbs you put in your body. I don't think there are too many people that could argue with me that 42 grams of carbs from Doritos is very different for your body's overall health than 42 grams of carbs from fresh fruits and vegetables. So, don't be afraid of carbs, but do keep in the back of your head that not all carbs are created equal and whole grains and fiber packed vegetables will always better serve your goals than white flour and sugar.

There's no white flour in Doritos.

And there's less than 1g of sugar in a serving of Doritos.

Also, 42 grams of carbs from Doritos would involve 70 grams total (apparently about 26-27 chips), and -- more significantly -- 21 g of fat. You'd get about 3 g of fiber. Total calories would be 378, of which 189 calories (or about exactly 50%) would be from fat. You'd get 4 or so grams of protein, and around a gram of sugar.

To get 42 grams of carbs from a banana, you'd need 182 g total (or somewhere between 1.5-2 bananas, depending on the size). You'd get a couple of grams of protein, around 5 grams of fiber (these numbers are similar enough in the Doritos and the banana that I don't see a meaningful difference), and of course around 22 grams of sugar. Total calories -- the main difference -- would be 163 -- so about half that of the Doritos, of which essentially all (but the tiny amount of protein) are from carbs.

So is the big difference between the banana and the Doritos in the carbs? Well, the Doritos do have more complex carbs, but I don't think that matters. Or is the real difference that the Doritos also have lots of fat and more calories? Or that the bananas have certain micros that the Doritos don't (and probably vice versa, although I'd assume the bananas have an advantage here).

I'd be interested in a response @kikkipoo if you want to talk about this. I'm a nutrition nerd, so am always up for such conversations.

midlomel1971 wrote: »

I seem to go over my carb limit every single day but I am losing consistently.

I treat that as my "minimum" and shoot past it just about every day, lol. I knew I ate enough carbs to make the LCHF/Keto-ers clutch their pearls, but when I saw in a post that someone was eating about 300 and people were chiming in with "that's waaay too high!", I actually looked at my numbers. I'm regularly over 250 and it's a RARE day that I'm under 200g of carbs. It's seriously 50% of my diet, and I still lose right on target :P.