dr told me

lisabassett4
lisabassett4 Posts: 4 Member
edited November 19 in Food and Nutrition
She told me not to eat cereal for breakfast, but have it for lunch instead. First meal should be protein, eggs for example. Cereal first thing in the morning bogs the system down and makes it feel sluggish. I found that since I did what she suggested, I have more energy.

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  • elphie754
    elphie754 Posts: 7,574 Member
    No. Meal timing and what time you eat certain foods has nothing to do with weight loss.
  • cmriverside
    cmriverside Posts: 34,416 Member
    Say what now?

    I agree that heavy on the protein is the way to go with breakfast, it works much better than cereal by itself. I have eggs, apple, oatmeal and sausage most mornings.

    This though...
    Cereal first thing in the morning bogs the system down and makes it feel sluggish.

    That's a new one.

  • LZMiner
    LZMiner Posts: 300 Member
    Some cereals have a good amount of sugar, and that can leave you feeling sluggish in an hour or so...and still hungry. I don't find cereal filling. My kids eat it more as a snack than for breakfast. I have eggs every morning. You'll find what works for you!
  • MelanieCN77
    MelanieCN77 Posts: 4,047 Member
    Lots of different foods are suggested for breakfast based on the idea of a slow energy release or keeping you not hungry till lunch or whatever but there's no one answer, and if cereal does it for you then keep doing it.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    edited June 2017
    I like eggs + vegetables for breakfast (which is not an especially high protein breakfast -- I usually add some dairy or smoked salmon to bump the protein) and don't like cold cereal at all, ever, for anything, but that advice from the doctor sounds goofy. Macros/nutrient profile similar to cereal and milk alone wouldn't work for me at lunch either. Not saying they wouldn't work for someone (I'm sure they do, just as some like that for breakfast), but then how can you generalize about eating it for lunch vs. breakfast?
  • JeromeBarry1
    JeromeBarry1 Posts: 10,179 Member
    OK fine. I got bored with having protein for breakfast every day for a year so I'm doing a month of carby breakfast, sticking to the man.
  • suryoyo85
    suryoyo85 Posts: 56 Member
    Oatmeal with chia and hemp with some fresh fruit is the way to go !:)
  • estherdragonbat
    estherdragonbat Posts: 5,283 Member
    Red seedless grapes, topped with 2x protein fat-free Greek yogurt, with a granola bar crumbled on top.
  • livingleanlivingclean
    livingleanlivingclean Posts: 11,751 Member
    My Dr told me I was completely normal and refused to send me for blood tests despite me telling him I hadn't had a period for a few years (at age 32). Dr's know less about nutrition than they do about medical issues, so I personally wouldn't listen to their advice on diet.

    But, do what works for you! I prefer to eat nothing in the am, but if I do eat early, I go for higher protein options too. Cereal doesn't satiate me in the slightest!
  • malibu927
    malibu927 Posts: 17,562 Member
    I still have cereal, but a also have some Greek yogurt with it to get some protein
  • Luna3386
    Luna3386 Posts: 888 Member
    I eat eggs and cereal (bran) everyday for breakfast.
  • SpleenThief
    SpleenThief Posts: 293 Member
    Say what now?

    I agree that heavy on the protein is the way to go with breakfast, it works much better than cereal by itself. I have eggs, apple, oatmeal and sausage most mornings.

    This though...
    Cereal first thing in the morning bogs the system down and makes it feel sluggish.

    That's a new one.

    I bet an all carb breakfast would bump blood sugar which would then fall rapidly, causing a sluggish feeling.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    Say what now?

    I agree that heavy on the protein is the way to go with breakfast, it works much better than cereal by itself. I have eggs, apple, oatmeal and sausage most mornings.

    This though...
    Cereal first thing in the morning bogs the system down and makes it feel sluggish.

    That's a new one.

    I bet an all carb breakfast would bump blood sugar which would then fall rapidly, causing a sluggish feeling.

    Depends on the person and the carbs. If I had lots of veg and fruit for breakfast it may or may not be satiating for as long as usual (haven't tried it without any additional protein), but it would not have any particular blood sugar effects for me. I've had just steel cut oats and berries for breakfast and it's fine, no energy issues, I'm not starving later. I prefer more protein and think it's best to have veg with breakfast (all meals, one of my personal rules), but the idea that this could not be satiating for someone or would necessarily ruin their energy is silly. However, if someone said "I always have this breakfast and I'm always tired 2 hours later" and you asked about sleep and stuff, changing up breakfast is a good idea. But presenting it as a general rule is wrong. And suggesting it's bad for breakfast but fine for lunch seems weird to me.
  • Azdak
    Azdak Posts: 8,281 Member
    The protein for breakfast recommendation isn't a bad one. Since most docs have little training in nutrition, their explanations are often not better than something you'd hear from a friend at work.
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,328 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    No. Meal timing and what time you eat certain foods has nothing to do with weight loss.

    It can have effects on satiation and thus on compliance though. If this works so the OP feels she has more energy, which was her point, no reason not to eat that way. I personally don't usually eat until late in the afternoon because any food in the morning will often make me feel sluggish.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    When I'm doing a long cycle ride then I have a huge bowl of breakfast cereal - because carbs = energy.
    Having more easily digested energy rich food doesn't make me feel sluggish or bogged down.

    But without context of the OP's entire diet, activity and reaction to different macros then it falls back to - if it feels good then carry on.
  • lemurcat12
    lemurcat12 Posts: 30,886 Member
    elphie754 wrote: »
    No. Meal timing and what time you eat certain foods has nothing to do with weight loss.

    It can have effects on satiation and thus on compliance though. If this works so the OP feels she has more energy, which was her point, no reason not to eat that way. I personally don't usually eat until late in the afternoon because any food in the morning will often make me feel sluggish.

    No reason not to eat that way, but the advice itself is goofy. The reasons for something are important, and this kind of thing is why people insist on MFP that others must eat cereal for lunch in order to lose or some such mangling. That cereal for breakfast (even if eaten with protein and fat) will inherently "bog you down" and should be avoided by anyone trying to lose or be healthy. They see it as some kind of weird universal rule that cereal is good for lunch, not breakfast, rather than understanding that maybe the issue was for them, personally, it's better, or, likely, that they were getting nothing but quick carbs for breakfast and cereal as a side at lunch (with other foods) would work better, for them.

    Doctors really should be able to manage a better explanation. I judge.
  • deputy_randolph
    deputy_randolph Posts: 940 Member
    I do eat a "high" protein b'fast (usually around 30+grams), b/c I've found it keeps me fuller longer. However, I do eat toast with b'fast when I plan to workout in the morning. Carbs=energy for gym. On the days that I don't workout in the AM, I have less carbs.

    I also eat "higher" carbs at lunch, b/c I have usually already worked out. I tend to stick with slower digesting carbs for dinner (think veggies, fruit...carbs + fiber). I think your dr might have been referring to "carb timing," but might not have a solid understanding of the subject (I'm no expert either).
  • rileysowner
    rileysowner Posts: 8,328 Member
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    elphie754 wrote: »
    No. Meal timing and what time you eat certain foods has nothing to do with weight loss.

    It can have effects on satiation and thus on compliance though. If this works so the OP feels she has more energy, which was her point, no reason not to eat that way. I personally don't usually eat until late in the afternoon because any food in the morning will often make me feel sluggish.

    No reason not to eat that way, but the advice itself is goofy. The reasons for something are important, and this kind of thing is why people insist on MFP that others must eat cereal for lunch in order to lose or some such mangling. That cereal for breakfast (even if eaten with protein and fat) will inherently "bog you down" and should be avoided by anyone trying to lose or be healthy. They see it as some kind of weird universal rule that cereal is good for lunch, not breakfast, rather than understanding that maybe the issue was for them, personally, it's better, or, likely, that they were getting nothing but quick carbs for breakfast and cereal as a side at lunch (with other foods) would work better, for them.

    Doctors really should be able to manage a better explanation. I judge.

    I agree with you that the explanation why is completely stupid, but it is just another example that doctors don't really know anything about nutrition.
  • cross2bear
    cross2bear Posts: 1,106 Member
    Experiment - eat cereal for breakfast for a week, and then eat eggs for breakfast for a week and see how you feel. Ultimately its your body and you can fuel it as you like. Or not. I dont eat breakfast and I dont feel either sluggish or energized - I just AM.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    She told me not to eat cereal for breakfast, but have it for lunch instead. First meal should be protein, eggs for example. Cereal first thing in the morning bogs the system down and makes it feel sluggish. I found that since I did what she suggested, I have more energy.

    nope, get a new dr or just stop asking dr's for nutritional advice..
  • midlomel1971
    midlomel1971 Posts: 1,283 Member
    I eat cereal in the morning every single day because it's what I crave. I eat Cheerios so low-sugar w/ a banana cut up on it. I do eat a hardboiled egg around 9:15 for some protein. I have no issues w/ lack of energy or feeling hungry.
  • Tried30UserNames
    Tried30UserNames Posts: 561 Member
    I prefer eggs for breakfast and I'm not a fan of cereal at any time of day. But I wouldn't take nutrition advice from a doctor. They don't have any training in that.
  • PhylinAZ
    PhylinAZ Posts: 15 Member
    I don't eat cereal or pancakes w/ syrup. The carbs, sugar hit my blood stream quickly and make me sleepy. An hour later, I'm hungry.

    My usual breakfast is greek style yogurt, with two tbsp of pecans, a slice of wheat toast with a schmear of butter and a half cup of fresh fruit.
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