Testosterone boost?
terryt1992
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I have been diagnosed with with Low T and it has caused me tons of problems. I recently started lifting and I think it has gotten better. I have not had an official test since I started lifting. Anyone have anything that will for sure help boost my levels? I really think its taking a toll on my body I have no energy unless I am at the gym and I have not been able to bring my mood up lately.
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The only thing that will boost your test levels to any significant degree is TRT. Any supplement you can buy is a scam, because if it actually elevated test it would be a controlled substance (i.e., prescription only).3
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D-Asparic Acid0
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Not going to be crazy but can help0
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D-Asparic Acid
Yeah, that looks like a great one.
https://examine.com/supplements/d-aspartic-acid/There appears to be an increase in testosterone in most subjects acutely (6-12 days), and while this may persist to the tune of 30-60% in infertile men it is reduced to baseline within a month in otherwise healthy men with normal testosterone at baseline. However, high doses also seem to decrease free testosterone and total testosterone in resistance trained men.5 -
D-Asparic Acid
Yeah, that looks like a great one.
https://examine.com/supplements/d-aspartic-acid/There appears to be an increase in testosterone in most subjects acutely (6-12 days), and while this may persist to the tune of 30-60% in infertile men it is reduced to baseline within a month in otherwise healthy men with normal testosterone at baseline. However, high doses also seem to decrease free testosterone and total testosterone in resistance trained men.
He has low T so he's not an otherwise healthy man with normal testosterone and I wasn't saying to take high doses.0 -
terryt1992 wrote: »I have been diagnosed with with Low T and it has caused me tons of problems. I recently started lifting and I think it has gotten better. I have not had an official test since I started lifting. Anyone have anything that will for sure help boost my levels? I really think its taking a toll on my body I have no energy unless I am at the gym and I have not been able to bring my mood up lately.
Really diagnosed by an endocrinologist, or "diagnosed" by some men's clinic? If the former, why are you not being treated for it already? Treatment for any medical condition should immediately follow diagnosis.7 -
D-Asparic Acid
Yeah, that looks like a great one.
https://examine.com/supplements/d-aspartic-acid/There appears to be an increase in testosterone in most subjects acutely (6-12 days), and while this may persist to the tune of 30-60% in infertile men it is reduced to baseline within a month in otherwise healthy men with normal testosterone at baseline. However, high doses also seem to decrease free testosterone and total testosterone in resistance trained men.
He has low T so he's not an otherwise healthy man with normal testosterone and I wasn't saying to take high doses.
Read the link. T-boost is temporary (studies show elevation for a week to a week and a half before returning to baseline). What good is a 10-day boost going to do for somebody who actually has chronically low T?0 -
TRT definitely. See if you can go on 500-600 per week of Test E. It will do wonders for you attitude and body.0
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D-Asparic Acid
Yeah, that looks like a great one.
https://examine.com/supplements/d-aspartic-acid/There appears to be an increase in testosterone in most subjects acutely (6-12 days), and while this may persist to the tune of 30-60% in infertile men it is reduced to baseline within a month in otherwise healthy men with normal testosterone at baseline. However, high doses also seem to decrease free testosterone and total testosterone in resistance trained men.
He has low T so he's not an otherwise healthy man with normal testosterone and I wasn't saying to take high doses.
Read the link. T-boost is temporary (studies show elevation for a week to a week and a half before returning to baseline). What good is a 10-day boost going to do for somebody who actually has chronically low T?
It says for a male with normal T levels.0 -
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D-Asparic Acid
Yeah, that looks like a great one.
https://examine.com/supplements/d-aspartic-acid/There appears to be an increase in testosterone in most subjects acutely (6-12 days), and while this may persist to the tune of 30-60% in infertile men it is reduced to baseline within a month in otherwise healthy men with normal testosterone at baseline. However, high doses also seem to decrease free testosterone and total testosterone in resistance trained men.
He has low T so he's not an otherwise healthy man with normal testosterone and I wasn't saying to take high doses.
Read the link. T-boost is temporary (studies show elevation for a week to a week and a half before returning to baseline). What good is a 10-day boost going to do for somebody who actually has chronically low T?
It says for a male with normal T levels.
Okay. So go ahead and post up the peer-reviewed studies showing that it's beneficial in the long term for men with diagnosed low T levels then.3 -
As others said, TRT is the only sure fire way to boost your testosterone. If you are diagnosed formally with this, the doctor will prescribe this for you.
I thought my T-levels were low so had it checked. I had no energy, and... ummm... other issues... Turns out, it was just normal decline with age. I started taking Nugenix and I found that helped me. I just got the regular dosage and it helped with my energy levels and... other issues.. as well.
Can't say if its legit or not, but its helped me. That's all I am saying.0 -
Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »
Then you go off for a couple of days and go back on?
It's one of the few things that have shown to work0 -
Of course you've been diagnosed with "Low T". The low T business which enticed you with advertising is staffed with a doctor whose only business is diagnosing every male with low T then prescribing them with a naturally occurring hormone which occurs naturally in all men and in some men at higher levels and thus Dr T is unlikely to ever lose a malpractice suit and his malpractice insurance is actually quite low. What a business that is!. Kiss your money goodbye.9
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I got tested multiple times and they showed me the results and I def believe them because I had "other issues" also. I have to see the Endocrenoligist next month which is crazy I had to wait like 4 months to get in to see them. So basically I just need to wait to speak with them. Since I have starting lifting my "other issues" have gotten way better. Not 100% yet but a complete 360 from before1
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What are your levels? Bioavalable? Free? Total?
I was on the lower end of the spectrum - blood tests also showed low D levels - there is sometimes a correlation. Was prescribed D2 and now take 2000iu D3 a day. Last Test was June 1 and my T has gone up about 100.
TRT is a lifetime commitment. There is no going back. A couple of years on it and you won't ever produce your own again.
Edit: I drank a half gallon of whole milk a day and took a multi before the initial tests - but as we get older we have a harder time absorbing D.2 -
Well, definitely don't make matters worse by eating things that can elevate estrogen like soy and almonds, until you get thiss sorted out with your doctor.0
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jseams1234 wrote: »What are your levels? Bioavalable? Free? Total?
I was on the lower end of the spectrum - blood tests also showed low D levels - there is sometimes a correlation. Was prescribed D2 and now take 2000iu D3 a day. Last Test was June 1 and my T has gone up about 100.
TRT is a lifetime commitment. There is no going back. A couple of years on it and you won't ever produce your own again.
Edit: I drank a half gallon of whole milk a day and took a multi before the initial tests - but as we get older we have a harder time absorbing D.
Taking K2 along with D3 helps with bioavailabilty and absorbtion.1 -
terryt1992 wrote: »I have been diagnosed with with Low T and it has caused me tons of problems. I recently started lifting and I think it has gotten better. I have not had an official test since I started lifting. Anyone have anything that will for sure help boost my levels? I really think its taking a toll on my body I have no energy unless I am at the gym and I have not been able to bring my mood up lately.
Saturated fat. Green vegetables. Keep lifting. Make steak and eggs a part of your diet. Test is made out of cholesterol.0 -
Literally the only thing worth doing is seeing the endo. Supplements are going to be next to worthless for legitimately diagnosed low testosterone. Dietary changes could help but that assumes you are deficient in something. It is quite possible that you are not and simply have low testosterone for other reasons. As mentioned, TRT is a lifelong commitment but if you have been tested several times and your testosterone has remained low each time, it is unlikely to rebound on its own. Talk to the endo about the risks versus benefits and make an informed decision. Don't waste time with supplements and minor dietary changes. If you diet is truly deficient in vitamin D, cholesterol, very low in fat, or contains some other major deficiency it's worth fixing those things in the meantime but don't expect a miracle.
How can a doctor diagnose "every male" with low testosterone. It's a blood test and your level is either below the limit that is considered low or it isn't. Are you suggesting doctors are altering lab samples? A doctor is very unlikely to prescribe TRT to any man with a testosterone level within normal limits. Additionally, the fact that testosterone is naturally occuring is irrelevant. Just because it occurs naturally doesn't mean that everyone produces sufficient amounts. Some people are deficient in thyroid hormones that occur naturally and require outside supplementation. That's no different. The point is that not everyone's body functions optimally and correcting imbalances can lead to a better quality of life. The symptoms of low testosterone suck and exploring the risks versus benefits of replacement therapy is a very good idea.JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Of course you've been diagnosed with "Low T". The low T business which enticed you with advertising is staffed with a doctor whose only business is diagnosing every male with low T then prescribing them with a naturally occurring hormone which occurs naturally in all men and in some men at higher levels and thus Dr T is unlikely to ever lose a malpractice suit and his malpractice insurance is actually quite low. What a business that is!. Kiss your money goodbye.
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I was diagnosed with this after one low test last year... and I could tell that I wasn't the same guy in the love department anymore... After 90 days of truly eating great food, getting regular exercise, and being healthy... I have better boners now than I did when I was 16... Great food really does help!1
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Ashwaganda works for me. It also gives you super sperm, so watch out for that.0
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Literally the only thing worth doing is seeing the endo. Supplements are going to be next to worthless for legitimately diagnosed low testosterone. Dietary changes could help but that assumes you are deficient in something. It is quite possible that you are not and simply have low testosterone for other reasons. As mentioned, TRT is a lifelong commitment but if you have been tested several times and your testosterone has remained low each time, it is unlikely to rebound on its own. Talk to the endo about the risks versus benefits and make an informed decision. Don't waste time with supplements and minor dietary changes. If you diet is truly deficient in vitamin D, cholesterol, very low in fat, or contains some other major deficiency it's worth fixing those things in the meantime but don't expect a miracle.
How can a doctor diagnose "every male" with low testosterone. It's a blood test and your level is either below the limit that is considered low or it isn't. Are you suggesting doctors are altering lab samples? A doctor is very unlikely to prescribe TRT to any man with a testosterone level within normal limits. Additionally, the fact that testosterone is naturally occuring is irrelevant. Just because it occurs naturally doesn't mean that everyone produces sufficient amounts. Some people are deficient in thyroid hormones that occur naturally and require outside supplementation. That's no different. The point is that not everyone's body functions optimally and correcting imbalances can lead to a better quality of life. The symptoms of low testosterone suck and exploring the risks versus benefits of replacement therapy is a very good idea.JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Of course you've been diagnosed with "Low T". The low T business which enticed you with advertising is staffed with a doctor whose only business is diagnosing every male with low T then prescribing them with a naturally occurring hormone which occurs naturally in all men and in some men at higher levels and thus Dr T is unlikely to ever lose a malpractice suit and his malpractice insurance is actually quite low. What a business that is!. Kiss your money goodbye.
Well, 9 out of 10 isn't "everybody" but darn close. lol. It's subjective to a point. Here is some info from a HRT "business" in my area. They charge $300 a month and it includes all lab work, doctors visits and medication. $300 a month for the rest of your life... lol
"How it works:
STEP 1: MOBILE BLOOD SAMPLE: We send a mobile phlebotomist to your home or office, where we (1) record your vitals and (2) draw a blood sample.
STEP 2: HORMONE REPORT: Within 4 to 7 business days (usually) our blood laboratory will test your blood and report a comprehensive hormone panel on your ***** mobile app. The report will include levels on testosterone, free testosterone, estrogen, thyroid, adrenals, progesterone, PSA (for men), hemoglobin, hematocrit, Vitamin B12 and Vitamin D.
STEP 3: MEDICAL CONSULT: An in-network medical practitioner will call you and decide whether you qualify for treatment (90% of our patients qualify) – and pending qualification, administer a prescription protocol for the sake of optimizing all of your main hormone levels, as well as offer insight on vitamin levels, fitness and nutrition."0 -
jseams1234 wrote: »Literally the only thing worth doing is seeing the endo. Supplements are going to be next to worthless for legitimately diagnosed low testosterone. Dietary changes could help but that assumes you are deficient in something. It is quite possible that you are not and simply have low testosterone for other reasons. As mentioned, TRT is a lifelong commitment but if you have been tested several times and your testosterone has remained low each time, it is unlikely to rebound on its own. Talk to the endo about the risks versus benefits and make an informed decision. Don't waste time with supplements and minor dietary changes. If you diet is truly deficient in vitamin D, cholesterol, very low in fat, or contains some other major deficiency it's worth fixing those things in the meantime but don't expect a miracle.
How can a doctor diagnose "every male" with low testosterone. It's a blood test and your level is either below the limit that is considered low or it isn't. Are you suggesting doctors are altering lab samples? A doctor is very unlikely to prescribe TRT to any man with a testosterone level within normal limits. Additionally, the fact that testosterone is naturally occuring is irrelevant. Just because it occurs naturally doesn't mean that everyone produces sufficient amounts. Some people are deficient in thyroid hormones that occur naturally and require outside supplementation. That's no different. The point is that not everyone's body functions optimally and correcting imbalances can lead to a better quality of life. The symptoms of low testosterone suck and exploring the risks versus benefits of replacement therapy is a very good idea.JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Of course you've been diagnosed with "Low T". The low T business which enticed you with advertising is staffed with a doctor whose only business is diagnosing every male with low T then prescribing them with a naturally occurring hormone which occurs naturally in all men and in some men at higher levels and thus Dr T is unlikely to ever lose a malpractice suit and his malpractice insurance is actually quite low. What a business that is!. Kiss your money goodbye.
Well, 9 out of 10 isn't "everybody" but darn close. lol. It's subjective to a point. Here is some info from a HRT "business" in my area. They charge $300 a month and it includes all lab work, doctors visits and medication. $300 a month for the rest of your life... lol
"How it works:
STEP 1: MOBILE BLOOD SAMPLE: We send a mobile phlebotomist to your home or office, where we (1) record your vitals and (2) draw a blood sample.
STEP 2: HORMONE REPORT: Within 4 to 7 business days (usually) our blood laboratory will test your blood and report a comprehensive hormone panel on your ***** mobile app. The report will include levels on testosterone, free testosterone, estrogen, thyroid, adrenals, progesterone, PSA (for men), hemoglobin, hematocrit, Vitamin B12 and Vitamin D.
STEP 3: MEDICAL CONSULT: An in-network medical practitioner will call you and decide whether you qualify for treatment (90% of our patients qualify) – and pending qualification, administer a prescription protocol for the sake of optimizing all of your main hormone levels, as well as offer insight on vitamin levels, fitness and nutrition."
But I don't think that the OP did this. It seems he went to a general practitioner, got diagnosed, and was given a endocrinology consult. Why pay the 300 bucks a month unless you have no health insurance? If you see a GP and they are comfortable doing TRT or consult an endo many insurances should cover the majority of the cost of both visits and treatment. Yes, you can go to a TRT clinic and probably get prescribed but to me that seems like what people who aren't actually medically deficit do. A skilled endocrinologist simply isn't going to prescribe TRT to a man with a normal testosterone level unless a very special circumstance exists. If you are indeed deficient and have insurance it would be more cost effective to see your GP/Endo and your care is likely to be managed better as well. I'm not arguing that you can't get a bogus diagnosis from a TRT clinic if you really want to be on TRT but the OP doesn't seem to be doing this. The point I was making is that legitimate testosterone deficiency certainly does exist, it has negative effects on the body, and treatment is absolutely an option worth considering.2 -
Researchers from the University of California, Santa Barbara have discovered that chopping wood significantly increases testosterone levels, even more so than competitive activities. Scientists have known for a while that competitive exercise, like sports, tend to increase how much testosterone the body releases.0
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Researchers from the University of California, Santa Barbara have discovered that chopping wood significantly increases testosterone levels, even more so than competitive activities. Scientists have known for a while that competitive exercise, like sports, tend to increase how much testosterone the body releases.
But this is only temporary. Usual during the activity and very shortly after. It is not an effective way to treat low testosterone and won't help with symptoms.0 -
jseams1234 wrote: »Literally the only thing worth doing is seeing the endo. Supplements are going to be next to worthless for legitimately diagnosed low testosterone. Dietary changes could help but that assumes you are deficient in something. It is quite possible that you are not and simply have low testosterone for other reasons. As mentioned, TRT is a lifelong commitment but if you have been tested several times and your testosterone has remained low each time, it is unlikely to rebound on its own. Talk to the endo about the risks versus benefits and make an informed decision. Don't waste time with supplements and minor dietary changes. If you diet is truly deficient in vitamin D, cholesterol, very low in fat, or contains some other major deficiency it's worth fixing those things in the meantime but don't expect a miracle.
How can a doctor diagnose "every male" with low testosterone. It's a blood test and your level is either below the limit that is considered low or it isn't. Are you suggesting doctors are altering lab samples? A doctor is very unlikely to prescribe TRT to any man with a testosterone level within normal limits. Additionally, the fact that testosterone is naturally occuring is irrelevant. Just because it occurs naturally doesn't mean that everyone produces sufficient amounts. Some people are deficient in thyroid hormones that occur naturally and require outside supplementation. That's no different. The point is that not everyone's body functions optimally and correcting imbalances can lead to a better quality of life. The symptoms of low testosterone suck and exploring the risks versus benefits of replacement therapy is a very good idea.JeromeBarry1 wrote: »Of course you've been diagnosed with "Low T". The low T business which enticed you with advertising is staffed with a doctor whose only business is diagnosing every male with low T then prescribing them with a naturally occurring hormone which occurs naturally in all men and in some men at higher levels and thus Dr T is unlikely to ever lose a malpractice suit and his malpractice insurance is actually quite low. What a business that is!. Kiss your money goodbye.
Well, 9 out of 10 isn't "everybody" but darn close. lol. It's subjective to a point. Here is some info from a HRT "business" in my area. They charge $300 a month and it includes all lab work, doctors visits and medication. $300 a month for the rest of your life... lol
"How it works:
STEP 1: MOBILE BLOOD SAMPLE: We send a mobile phlebotomist to your home or office, where we (1) record your vitals and (2) draw a blood sample.
STEP 2: HORMONE REPORT: Within 4 to 7 business days (usually) our blood laboratory will test your blood and report a comprehensive hormone panel on your ***** mobile app. The report will include levels on testosterone, free testosterone, estrogen, thyroid, adrenals, progesterone, PSA (for men), hemoglobin, hematocrit, Vitamin B12 and Vitamin D.
STEP 3: MEDICAL CONSULT: An in-network medical practitioner will call you and decide whether you qualify for treatment (90% of our patients qualify) – and pending qualification, administer a prescription protocol for the sake of optimizing all of your main hormone levels, as well as offer insight on vitamin levels, fitness and nutrition."
But I don't think that the OP did this. It seems he went to a general practitioner, got diagnosed, and was given a endocrinology consult. Why pay the 300 bucks a month unless you have no health insurance? If you see a GP and they are comfortable doing TRT or consult an endo many insurances should cover the majority of the cost of both visits and treatment. Yes, you can go to a TRT clinic and probably get prescribed but to me that seems like what people who aren't actually medically deficit do. A skilled endocrinologist simply isn't going to prescribe TRT to a man with a normal testosterone level unless a very special circumstance exists. If you are indeed deficient and have insurance it would be more cost effective to see your GP/Endo and your care is likely to be managed better as well. I'm not arguing that you can't get a bogus diagnosis from a TRT clinic if you really want to be on TRT but the OP doesn't seem to be doing this. The point I was making is that legitimate testosterone deficiency certainly does exist, it has negative effects on the body, and treatment is absolutely an option worth considering.
I can agree with this. I am still curious about the OP's "low" readings. I'd hoped he would supply some actual numbers.0 -
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How can a doctor diagnose "every male" with low testosterone. It's a blood test and your level is either below the limit that is considered low or it isn't. Are you suggesting doctors are altering lab samples?
What they do at the questionable clinics is to redefine the reference range and give TRT to men who are not in fact clinically deficient. That's why they aren't covered by insurance. Their treatments are not medically necessary.1
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