So you want to lose weight fast?
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But I want MAGIC! Someobe has the magic wand and is just hiding it from me to be spiteful!6
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Also I want to win the lottery. Like another billion dollar one. So magically skinny and healthy and really, really rich, by the time summers over. That's not too much to ask, right?10
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fast weight loss isn't smart because most people who want to do it, are doing it in a way that isn't a lifestyle change. they think it's a quick fix, instead of fixing what caused them to overeat. once you handle that, you can lose as fast or slow as you're comfortable with.
and no one has ever said they wanted to lose 100lbs in 3 weeks
i'll take a guess and say that you and OP are very hostile towards people like this, because it reminds you of your own failures, when you started trying to lose weight.
I never suggested that you should lose weight over the same timescale as you gained it, the phrase you didn't lose the weight fast therefore you can't expect it to lose it fast is a way to point out you can't expect to lose a large amount of weight in a very short amount of time. It's to try and make people's expectations of weightloss realistic. The amount of times I read posts on here that start something like help I'm not losing! And it turns out they actually have been losing 1-2lbs a week which is a great rate of loss.
I'm not hostile against anyone 'like that' because I didn't fail, I've been quite successful actually. If you bother to read my comments to other posts on here you will actually find I try and advise people without being mean and offer advice based on what worked for me, and I don't make assumptions.
You actually come across quite hostile because I have written something you don't want to hear. That's fine, you don't need to take my advice or read my posts.10 -
I just want to reiterate that I thought your original post was wonderful and incredibly helpful for many. Bravo!
Not sure what the one individuals problem is with it. Maybe their user name says all we need to know?11 -
A 2 lb per week loss goal is NOT always wrong for someone who doesn't have tyo lose. For some...it WILL be relatively "fast and easy" and they won't need a lifestyle change to maintain it. That's a fact *some* cannot seem to intellectually accept, despite evidence to the contrary.
People like me. Having always been thin and fairly muscular naturally, having no addiction to food, and having eaten healthy and organic for the past 13 years means that I'm likely to lose the weight quickly (assuming I maintain CICO as I've done since March) and then go back to living as I always have as "maintenance". If I never had a weight problem before....there's no reason to believe I'd have one again.
I only gained weight because of serious injury let rendered me laid up, unable to do more than shuffle a few steps per day, and lay back down. The weight gain was fast. Now I can exercise and be active again. So I've shaved off 22 lbs since March and am at 148 lbs while still having visible muscle, so even if it took 3 months to get the remaining 10 to 13 lbs off....I'm already wearing my old clothes, well within the "average" weight for 5'7, and exercise enough that I'm eating more than I ever did and feel fine.
And I've been rudely told that I'll fail, regain, lose all muscle, become anorexic, etc etc....and while I don't heed their advice because it doesn't apply to my situation or my body...others may needlessly worry and think they're doomed to fail because of the "one size fits all" mentality.
Its fine to give advice. But condemning anyone immediately whos doing it a little differently than the "norm" isn't helpful and seems less like "trying to give genuine advice/show concern" and more like "it was hard for me and I want it to be hard for you because life would be unfair otherwise".10 -
Original post: Endorsed!
(And yes, I, too, have been successful, and resent no one. I just like seeing everyone stay strong and healthy as they lose weight.)9 -
WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »A 2 lb per week loss goal is NOT always wrong for someone who doesn't have tyo lose. For some...it WILL be relatively "fast and easy" and they won't need a lifestyle change to maintain it. That's a fact *some* cannot seem to intellectually accept, despite evidence to the contrary.
People like me. Having always been thin and fairly muscular naturally, having no addiction to food, and having eaten healthy and organic for the past 13 years means that I'm likely to lose the weight quickly (assuming I maintain CICO as I've done since March) and then go back to living as I always have as "maintenance". If I never had a weight problem before....there's no reason to believe I'd have one again.
I only gained weight because of serious injury let rendered me laid up, unable to do more than shuffle a few steps per day, and lay back down. The weight gain was fast. Now I can exercise and be active again. So I've shaved off 22 lbs since March and am at 148 lbs while still having visible muscle, so even if it took 3 months to get the remaining 10 to 13 lbs off....I'm already wearing my old clothes, well within the "average" weight for 5'7, and exercise enough that I'm eating more than I ever did and feel fine.
And I've been rudely told that I'll fail, regain, lose all muscle, become anorexic, etc etc....and while I don't heed their advice because it doesn't apply to my situation or my body...others may needlessly worry and think they're doomed to fail because of the "one size fits all" mentality a few people here have.
Its fine to give advice. But condemning anyone immediately whos doing it a little differently than the "norm" isn't helpful and seems less like "trying to give genuine advice/show concern" and more like "it was hard for me and I want it to be hard for you because life would be unfair otherwise".
I don't see what you are saying on the forum personally, yes the advice given is sometimes blunt and to the point but I don't take it as an attack. At the end of the day what I aimed to do was to give some perspective on the risks of losing too fast and within the safe guidelines that mfp advocates. If readers want to take that as a personal attack on their methods of losing, then by all means, I can't control their feelings be offended no skin of my nose, I can only give you a perspective based on my experience (like everyone else).
I don't really get either who I am condemning in this thread but I have been accused of probably being hostile toward people who have been successful because i have failed which is bizarre as really, I'm happy for you if you managed to get to goal and kept it off, well done. I've lost plenty of weight myself I don't need to feel jealous of others successes I've got my own.
The way you describe your loss sounds sensible, essentially you have lost around 1.3lb a week since March and you say you are eating more than you ever did. That to me sounds like a safe way to approach this.
I wrote this as there are so many newbies starting expecting to lose tons of weight within a short period of time, there is nothing close minded here just the scientific facts that you stand to lose a lot more that just the fat you want to. I attempted to get people to rethink their expectations and to not make weightloss more difficult than it has to be clearly I have failed as so many seem to be making such a big deal about such a tiny fraction of this post.
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Thought this might be appropriate.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html/6 -
Thought this might be appropriate.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html/
You know... this was a very very nice summary covering a lot of the bases that seem to be tripping people up in our various discussions.4 -
Thought this might be appropriate.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/you-are-not-different.html/
You know... this was a very very nice summary covering a lot of the bases that seem to be tripping people up in our various discussions.
Thank you!1 -
Great Post OP! I am a huge proponent of , "the winner is the one who eats the most and still loses the weight". I also think it's interesting, in all aspects of our lives we lament how quickly time passes. People are always saying "how can it already be June? Why are the kids growing up so quickly? I wish I could just slow things down". In every aspect of our life except weight loss that is, when so many people are in a hurry and take extreme measures, thinking the end will justify the means. It's a shame. I took about a year to lose ~ 30 lbs (and another 5 or so subsequently) and I learned so much in the process about how many calories I need, what fills me up, what foods I really enjoy and which are just "meh", how to increase my daily activity NEAT so that I actually eat more now, 35 lbs lighter, than I did when I was overweight, because my total calorie burn is higher. If I just went right to the lowest possible calories in order to get the weight off and get back in a size 4 dress, I likely would have ended up not learning how to be successful long term and potentially set myself up for a yo yo cycle, or injuring myself, or losing too much muscle so that I didn't even like the body I ended up with.
So again, great post OP. I hope more noobs read this and take the advice here.14 -
Dear Posters,
Lets keep this from becoming another "old timer" vs "Newbie" war and stay on topic. If you have something to discuss relative to the OP and your own personal experiences please do.
Thanks,
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Excellent summary of quality info. Great job!1
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I don't think there is really a "one size fits all" solution to weight loss. Though I personally opted for a slower loss rate when I wanted to drop some pounds, I've met and known people who have done quicker and much more restrictive losses that have done just fine long term.
Mindset, motivations, life priorities, physical ability and a load of other things also factor in, along with the basic personality traits of the person involved.
I think for some the mindset of quick loss gives them immediate validation that the efforts are paying off. For others a week or two of stall or small changes doesn't worry them at all. But in the end I really think that all that matters is an individual finding out what works for them, and not thinking they have found the solution to all the worlds weight loss problems.
I personally took the route more in line with what the OP describes, being a slow and steady loss rate. I also ate all foods I wanted, but just controlled the intake amounts. At times I would even hit heavy cardio sessions biking or such to go get a few beers and visit the food trucks guilt free, knowing I could reach my deficit goals for the week. But I never weighed my food ever, and I only logged food for maybe 6-8 months IIRC. I worked out and enjoyed working out, but also never got so consumed that missing a day bothered me.
The next person might weigh every grain of farro and rice, reduce or eliminate all sweets, have a gym schedule and strict routine for every minute at the gym, and never go out to eat the entire time they are losing their weight. But if that works for them, more power to them.
I completely agree that for most newbies having extreme expectations would seem to be setting themselves up to fail. But I've got people on my friends list that proved me wrong, and I see posts out here where people do it and they are fine long term. So when I see people struggling, I just encourage them to keep trying and figure out which methods work for them. For some what works is what I personally might think is restrictive diet hell, but in the end the person who is successful is probably way happier that they have made a change. And I hope that if I did offer my opinion that they would remind me I'm only entitled to my opinion, not their opinion.
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''You most likely didn't gain the weight fast''
this doesn't make sense. most people gain weight slowly over the years. that doesn't mean you have to lose it that slow....by your logic a person can lose 10-15 a year. what a joke
That's not what the OP meant and I will wager you know that.
But it's stupid the number of people who've put on significant amounts of weight over YEARS who come on here whining that they didn't lose it all in three weeks.
and no one has ever said they wanted to lose 100lbs in 3 weeks
I think you underestimate this forum.............
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I think your post is good advice OP - yes some people can sensibly lose at faster rate than others - but nobody will safely lose at the extreme rates we sometimes get people hoping for and that media ads promise.
Myself - I lost steadily and got to my goal weight in 10 months. Kept it off now for nearly 4 years.8 -
This seems to go against Lyle's rapid fat loss protocol (PSMF).0
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KrazyKrissyy wrote: »This seems to go against Lyle's rapid fat loss protocol (PSMF).
This advice is for a general audience. The majority are not willing to subject themselves to a protein-sparing modified fast, and that sort of diet should only be attempted after proper research (mostly to prevent inappropriate substitutions/modifications).
So, yes, there are situations in which this advice won't apply (post-bariatric surgery is another one), but the people in those situations know who they are. For the majority, this is good advice.5 -
trigden1991 wrote: »''You most likely didn't gain the weight fast''
this doesn't make sense. most people gain weight slowly over the years. that doesn't mean you have to lose it that slow....by your logic a person can lose 10-15 a year. what a joke
That's not what the OP meant and I will wager you know that.
But it's stupid the number of people who've put on significant amounts of weight over YEARS who come on here whining that they didn't lose it all in three weeks.
and no one has ever said they wanted to lose 100lbs in 3 weeks
I think you underestimate this forum.............
i think you're exaggerating...............0
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