Plateau'd help

Switch to 5/3/1 or The Texas Method for all lifts and buy/use fractional plates for OHP.

rfuray wrote: »

What ones better and are they the best free programs ?

5/3/1 is the most popular on MFP and else revere but the Texas Method also has a large following. I find 5/3/1 too complicated and prefer the Texas Method myself.

Google and read about them, and then decide for yourself.

Of course, there are other "intermediate" programs that you can use to break out of a plateau. Find the "What program is best for you?" thread and scan the links posted there.

rfuray wrote: »

What ones better and are they the best free programs ?

Throw dice with who you are and your goals.

They both are both pretty bad as written but with smart adjustments TM is a easier fix than 5/3/1.

TM is really designed for young 20s powerlifters.
The volume day can be much with high intensity and not enough bench frequency and low DL volume. Adjusting these is a good idea for most lifters.
If your 40+ of age might want to switch out cleans for Pendlays(any row really) or variation of deads(RDL, paused, etc...).
Dropping a set on volume day can help some people hold out longer.
Basically TM as written will burn out much quicker unless you make adjustments or move on to another program.

5/3/1 has way way too much volume at low intensity. If you cut all the sets that is less than 80% of your 1rm to a third of original... cap AMRAPs so you can do more volume at higher intensity at never do BBB and some of the other silly variations you can do fine for a while.

Honestly there are better written programs out there. The problem most newer lifters have is they want a cookie cutter program and when you graduate to a intermediate lifter those aren't necessarily the best option. It's not that you can't get stronger with either, it's just they are sub optimal.

I curious on what program you are stalling on and how long you've ran it. Its possible you can squeeze things out of it with more information like gender, weight gain on average, goals etc...

Chieflrg wrote: »

rfuray wrote: »

What ones better and are they the best free programs ?

Throw dice with who you are and your goals.

They both are both pretty bad as written but with smart adjustments TM is a easier fix than 5/3/1.

TM is really designed for young 20s powerlifters.
The volume day can be much with high intensity and not enough bench frequency and low DL volume. Adjusting these is a good idea for most lifters.
If your 40+ of age might want to switch out cleans for Pendlays(any row really) or variation of deads(RDL, paused, etc...).
Dropping a set on volume day can help some people hold out longer.
Basically TM as written will burn out much quicker unless you make adjustments or move on to another program.

5/3/1 has way way too much volume at low intensity. If you cut all the sets that is less than 80% of your 1rm to a third of original... cap AMRAPs so you can do more volume at higher intensity at never do BBB and some of the other silly variations you can do fine for a while.

Honestly there are better written programs out there. The problem most newer lifters have is they want a cookie cutter program and when you graduate to a intermediate lifter those aren't necessarily the best option. It's not that you can't get stronger with either, it's just they are sub optimal.

I curious on what program you are stalling on and how long you've ran it. Its possible you can squeeze things out of it with more information like gender, weight gain on average, goals etc...

This and does the program they are following include deloads? Also, are they cutting, bulking or maintaining weight.