Eating whatever I want
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Well, I'm seeing my doctor in another three months but when I saw him in March, I'd dropped 45 lbs, my BP had gone from 130/90 to 125/85, and the only thing that still seemed to be a bit of an issue was hemoglobin at the borderline-low end of normal. (For the last two months, I've started tracking iron intake on my diary page and hitting it or going slightly over 6 days out of 7. I wasn't getting the RDA before. We'll see what it looks like come September.)
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natashab61 wrote: »WinoGelato wrote: »
And do you think that eating a balanced and varied diet that also includes some ice cream is going to lead to clogged arteries and high blood pressure?natashab61 wrote: »Other problems mean clogged arteries,High BP etc.
No not necessarily. I just don't like to have too many fruits in my diet or sugars because it is in everything and I want to be healthy. Also I lovveeeee sugar. So when I have binged in the past it is all sugary things. Which kinda scares me lol
If you have binge eating disorder or difficulty moderating certain foods then of course, the comments "you can eat whatever you want" should be taken with that in consideration. It doesn't negate the fact that in the context of an otherwise balanced diet, that it is possible for others to eat foods with natural and added sugar in moderation and still lose weight and be healthy.5 -
natashab61 wrote: »Just to clarify I ate some watermelon and 1 ice cream for my lunch. Lol. I ate eggs and all the good nutritious things this morning. I am eating chicken and veggies for dinner. I was just curious.
I actually think my body does fine with carbs from fruit (I'm kind of low carb, but I eat plenty of fruit when it's in season, like now). However, I would not do well with a lunch of watermelon and ice cream -- I'd be hungry. I could ignore it and make it to dinner if I really wanted that for lunch, but it wouldn't be a good idea for me, and thus eating a meal without anything else is not something I would normally WANT to do. Might I on a rare occasion? Sure, and I don't think that would hurt me or mean I did not have adequate nutrition or would end up with high BP or clogged arteries.2 -
I eat whatever I want within my calorie goals and have lost 80 of the 100 pounds toward my goal. I balance the foods I want with foods that help me feel satisfied, but never deprive myself of something I really want. Seems to work for me.1
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natashab61 wrote: »Hey guys
I have read over and over on this forum that hey if it fits your calories you are good to eat whatever you want. I don't buy into this. I know micronutrients are important which you get from the good foods. I also feel like there is other problems associated with eat whatever you want mentality. Why do you believe it and what is your evidence?
I am asking because I ate a ton of fruit today and an ice cream. I know fruit is fine but my body doesn't do good with carbs from fruits. Anyway I'd love to hear from you all.
You can absolutely eat whatever you want and lose weight if you are in a deficit. You may make yourself good and sick eating only garbage. But you would be thinner.Personally I don't reccomend it myself. But that's up to you
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natashab61 wrote: »Hey guys
I have read over and over on this forum that hey if it fits your calories you are good to eat whatever you want. I don't buy into this. I know micronutrients are important which you get from the good foods. I also feel like there is other problems associated with eat whatever you want mentality. Why do you believe it and what is your evidence?
I am asking because I ate a ton of fruit today and an ice cream. I know fruit is fine but my body doesn't do good with carbs from fruits. Anyway I'd love to hear from you all.
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I can only answer for myself, but I eat what agrees with my stomach, gives me solid energy for workouts (and life), and what tasted good. For me that means eating fresh berries 7 days per week and often several times per day. It also means eating a lot of dairy and lean meats. I avoid red meats, pork, soy, whey, and white flour.
However, I save room in my calories everyday for a brownie with milk or Turkey Hill Chocolate Peanut Butter Ice Cream.
Will any of this help me lose weight? No. Will it impede my weight loss? No. It's just what I like and what makes my body and mind feel strong and energetic. People are telling you "it's all Math" because the weight loss IS.
But living on 1200 calories in Doritos or Lucky Charms is likely to make your health, energy, mind, and body function like crap. And THAT could impede your weight loss. But that doesn't change the Math of weight loss.1 -
I eat whatever I want but I also happen to really love healthy, whole foods. I mostly eat healthy (to me) foods and I do believe they provide superior nutrition however that being said I don't cry about sugar or the occasional nutritionally empty addition. I think if you want to get most of your calories from pop tarts and Kraft dinner that's your business but I will include those foods less frequently because I believe they are nutritionally inferior. It's about balance not about perfection imo0
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I do it based strictly on calories in/calories out because that is the only thing that works for me. Each person has to individually find what works for them. I get annoyed when people think they have found the holy grail of weight loss because there isn't one, there is no one size fits all weight loss plan. I fully admit that my main goal is weight loss, so basing it strictly on calories serves that purpose.2
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I eat whatever i want, but i also choose foods that fit my macros/micros. so, i won't have ice cream for dessert if I've overshot my carbs and came in low in protein that day, I'd instead choose to have protein pudding. Did i have an "unnutritious" first half of the day, then i make sure the rest of the day is filled with healthier options.
Just because i eat what i want doesn't mean my days are filled with chips and mcdonalds, nor are they filled with seaweed, wheatgerm and plain chicken breast and brussel sprouts for every meal
There's a happy medium between the two extremes. 5 -
Just because something is classed as junk food doesn't mean it has no nutrients. A beef burger from McD for example has a decent amount of protein, fat, carbs, vitamin B (from the bread). Pizzas are a complete nutritious meal when done properly with fresh veg and cheese & can often have a good amount of vitamin c and calcium.
The problems starts when you use the whatever I want mantra to over-eat or to not balance your meals.4 -
natashab61 wrote: »Hey guys
I have read over and over on this forum that hey if it fits your calories you are good to eat whatever you want. I don't buy into this. I know micronutrients are important which you get from the good foods. I also feel like there is other problems associated with eat whatever you want mentality. Why do you believe it and what is your evidence?
I am asking because I ate a ton of fruit today and an ice cream. I know fruit is fine but my body doesn't do good with carbs from fruits. Anyway I'd love to hear from you all.natashab61 wrote: »
No not necessarily. I just don't like to have too many fruits in my diet or sugars because it is in everything and I want to be healthy. Also I lovveeeee sugar. So when I have binged in the past it is all sugary things. Which kinda scares me lolWinoGelato wrote: »
And do you think that eating a balanced and varied diet that also includes some ice cream is going to lead to clogged arteries and high blood pressure?natashab61 wrote: »Other problems mean clogged arteries,High BP etc.
A healthy body starts with a healthy mindset. Sometimes we get hangups. Some of them are harmless misconceptions that can easily be cleared up. But if they persist, despite all the new evidence, and clearly impact your life negatively, I think it's time to seek professional help. We on the forum can't do anything for you or make you do anything, though, we can only offer suggestions.
What is said (I have read otherwise just once), is that for weight loss, sticking to a calorie deficit is all that matters. But of course nutrition matters for health and wellbeing. If you aren't feeling well, you won't be able to stick to a calorie deficit. (And most people want to lose weight to improve their health, so there is no either-or.) I think this is a liberating thought. It takes away the need to divide foods into good and bad, it takes away the negative associations with food, and food becomes just food. This also means that I'm not a bad person for liking the "wrong" foods. When I started out with MFP, I decided to let myself eat anything I wanted. This was scary! I was so used to believing that foods and food choices had to be restricted in order to manage weight and health. But then I read, experimented, discussed, analyzed, and came to the other conclusion: Over-restricting leads to disinhibition. Not just if you're "unlucky". Always. For a while I had "I can eat anything I want, but not everything at once, and not all the time" as my mantra, but as I'm getting more and more used to eat freely, and a the same time stick to regular meals, all those "rules" are getting more and more redundant. What I want, and how I define "want", has gone through a transformation. I no longer eat just because of the taste or to stop the nag from the food/my brain. I eat to nourish my body, AND to satisfy my senses.
Of course I want to be healthy, of course I don't want to be overweight. So I tried to follow the guidelines, eat my vegetables, whole grains, limit fat, avoid the chocolate and chips. But I can't. I have to make my own decisions, myself, or I will rebel. I would protest by eating too much, unbalanced, erratically, as much as I could of everything I was told I shouldn't eat. What happened when I stopped listening to the "good advice"? I am now eating just like they told me to. But I'm doing it in a way that suits me, in a way that I will stick to because it's how I want and like to eat, and my own choice.
I can understand why you are confused, maybe scared, even angry (most people get angry when what they believe in gets challenged. I resisted this fiercely too, for decades). Almost every other plan concerning health and weight is full of rules. MFP is fundamentally different. In my opinion, MFP provides support to making your own decisions. I also believe that making your own decisions is an essential part of being a healthy, independent adult.5 -
Honestly, I find that, when I eat what I want with a calorie deficit, I actually eat a pretty good balance of foods. I genuinely like fruits, vegetables, lean meats, and a variety of other foods. I wouldn't even enjoy a diet consisting wholly of junk food.3
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