Article in my local news a out it being harder to lose weight than it used to be.

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  • Alatariel75
    Alatariel75 Posts: 19,266 Member
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    When I was a kid, we all rode our bikes everywhere. Miles at a time. I grew up in the country and both parents worked, there wasn't any other way to get around. Nowadays, parents would be arrested for negligence letting a kid play outdoors and unsupervised.

    That's true - there was no dropping you off at a friend's house and picking you up again, if you wanted to get there you walked or rode.
  • Muana1005
    Muana1005 Posts: 172 Member
    I used to walk 10 miles a day when I was a child, had three meals a day and didn't snack, but I was still overweight on a 'traditional' diet. People in the 70s and 80s ate a lot of crap.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    I ate all kinds of junk food when I was little. Mom used to try to stop it but school let out before work did. But I also used to wander to the neighbor's place and play ball, go build forts in the woods, and a lot of "kid stuff" that didn't involve screens or sitting down. None of that style of playing stopped being fun, but people are more worried about liability now.
  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,726 Member
    stevencloser wrote: »
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    stanmann571 wrote: »
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    peckchris3267 wrote: »
    cmriverside wrote: »
    Lord. Could they fit any more woo into five paragraphs?

    It lost me in the second paragraph with this:
    According to researchers, even if you work out as much and eat the same amount as people did in the '70s and '80s, you're not going to get a summer bod nearly as easily. After comparing weights of people with the same lifestyles and similar food intake in 1988 and 2006, they saw that the latter group had a BMI 2.3 points higher than the first group.

    I'm guessing the people they are questioning are overestimating their exercise and underestimating their intake. Either that or they're downright lying.

    What do you think has changed since the 1980s about this?

    Computers

    People had computers in the 80s. How are they related to people "downright lying" about how much they ate?

    For context, this is the comment we're talking about:

    I'm guessing the people they are questioning are overestimating their exercise and underestimating their intake. Either that or they're downright lying.

    I don't think those things have changed much at all since the 1980s. Even though we had computers back then.

    Yeah, about one per company and one per 100 families or so. "We had computers" as in "they existed" while now we have "you're literally carrying a computer stronger than what landed people on the moon in your pants pocket at all times and use it to look at cat pictures."

    And wearing another one as a watch... since a 19 dollar casio or timex has that level of HP these days.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    stevencloser wrote: »
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    stanmann571 wrote: »
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    peckchris3267 wrote: »
    cmriverside wrote: »
    Lord. Could they fit any more woo into five paragraphs?

    It lost me in the second paragraph with this:
    According to researchers, even if you work out as much and eat the same amount as people did in the '70s and '80s, you're not going to get a summer bod nearly as easily. After comparing weights of people with the same lifestyles and similar food intake in 1988 and 2006, they saw that the latter group had a BMI 2.3 points higher than the first group.

    I'm guessing the people they are questioning are overestimating their exercise and underestimating their intake. Either that or they're downright lying.

    What do you think has changed since the 1980s about this?

    Computers

    People had computers in the 80s. How are they related to people "downright lying" about how much they ate?

    For context, this is the comment we're talking about:

    I'm guessing the people they are questioning are overestimating their exercise and underestimating their intake. Either that or they're downright lying.

    I don't think those things have changed much at all since the 1980s. Even though we had computers back then.

    Yeah, about one per company and one per 100 families or so. "We had computers" as in "they existed" while now we have "you're literally carrying a computer stronger than what landed people on the moon in your pants pocket at all times and use it to look at cat pictures."

    I understand what computers are. No one has answered the question how did computers turn people from honest into liars about their diets in 30 years.
  • stanmann571
    stanmann571 Posts: 5,726 Member
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    stevencloser wrote: »
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    stanmann571 wrote: »
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    peckchris3267 wrote: »
    cmriverside wrote: »
    Lord. Could they fit any more woo into five paragraphs?

    It lost me in the second paragraph with this:
    According to researchers, even if you work out as much and eat the same amount as people did in the '70s and '80s, you're not going to get a summer bod nearly as easily. After comparing weights of people with the same lifestyles and similar food intake in 1988 and 2006, they saw that the latter group had a BMI 2.3 points higher than the first group.

    I'm guessing the people they are questioning are overestimating their exercise and underestimating their intake. Either that or they're downright lying.

    What do you think has changed since the 1980s about this?

    Computers

    People had computers in the 80s. How are they related to people "downright lying" about how much they ate?

    For context, this is the comment we're talking about:

    I'm guessing the people they are questioning are overestimating their exercise and underestimating their intake. Either that or they're downright lying.

    I don't think those things have changed much at all since the 1980s. Even though we had computers back then.

    Yeah, about one per company and one per 100 families or so. "We had computers" as in "they existed" while now we have "you're literally carrying a computer stronger than what landed people on the moon in your pants pocket at all times and use it to look at cat pictures."

    I understand what computers are. No one has answered the question how did computers turn people from honest into liars about their diets in 30 years.

    They aren't lying about their diet, or activity.

    They're oblivious to the fact that a "office" or "desk" worker today lifts less weight and walks less distance than 30 years ago.

    There's no need to go to the "file room" to fetch documents for review. There's no need to take the document to the copy room or secretarial pool for duplication. and then to go pick up the document when the duplication is complete. That all happens at your desk.. and then you walk 10 steps to the printer to collect the final document after it has been edited and "routed"... another task that used to require walking(for someone)
  • savithny
    savithny Posts: 1,200 Member
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    stanmann571 wrote: »
    NorthCascades wrote: »
    peckchris3267 wrote: »
    cmriverside wrote: »
    Lord. Could they fit any more woo into five paragraphs?

    It lost me in the second paragraph with this:
    According to researchers, even if you work out as much and eat the same amount as people did in the '70s and '80s, you're not going to get a summer bod nearly as easily. After comparing weights of people with the same lifestyles and similar food intake in 1988 and 2006, they saw that the latter group had a BMI 2.3 points higher than the first group.

    I'm guessing the people they are questioning are overestimating their exercise and underestimating their intake. Either that or they're downright lying.

    What do you think has changed since the 1980s about this?

    Computers

    People had computers in the 80s. How are they related to people "downright lying" about how much they ate?

    For context, this is the comment we're talking about:

    I'm guessing the people they are questioning are overestimating their exercise and underestimating their intake. Either that or they're downright lying.

    I don't think those things have changed much at all since the 1980s. Even though we had computers back then.

    In the 1980s, most poeple weren't using computers all day at work. Even office workers. There was a lot more getting up and down during the day, walking to the next office to talk to someone, running physical papers around the building. My first few jobs had "computers," but there were a couple of stations that we all shared. and there was lots of non-computer work to do. We had to actually get up and make copies, we had to hand-collate stacks of copies (so we stood arnd walked around tables), we had to go to the computer room to get printouts from the one printer in the building. We couldn't email colleagues (first job with work email wasn't until 1993), so you got up and found them.

    People weren't spending all their free time doing activities on computers that are so totally sedentary (yes, there was TV, yes, we all watched a lot of it, but there wasn't the immediate ability to watch exactly what you wanted to watch so that there was ALWAYS something on. You couldn't skip the ads. You got up and walked around, or you gave up and went looking for something else to do.

    Look past comparing how much people *exercise,* and look at how much non-exercise activity people are getting. Frankly, having worn various step counters and activity trackers, I think most Americans (certianly overweight ones) drastically overestimate their activity levels. My job is so sedentary (I have to be sitting at this desk most of the day) that even if I walk several miles as conscious exercise, my step count is barely into "lightly active." I have to do a lot more than I thought just to maintain an activity level that used to be a natural part of my day.
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