Correct Form when lifting
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blackcomaro wrote: »WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »and really exaggerate the forward thrust of the hips on the way up.
Thrust forward is an interesting use of terminology......... i just concentrate on squeezing my glutes to bring the spine to a neutral position thats it!
As you wouldnt ever want to put excess pressure on the lower spine by hyper extending.
No, no. Not thrusting where I'd get a curve in my back. I know better. Perhaps "thrust" was too... Errr... "thrusty". I press my pelvis forward a bit to basically check myself that I've "reset" into a neutral position.2 -
I only wear a belt at 80% rep and above. Coach always says eyes down : squat, up for deads and cleans. For snatches? Straight forward. So many schools of thinking...
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spartan546 wrote: »I only wear a belt at 80% rep and above. Coach always says eyes down : squat, up for deads and cleans. For snatches? Straight forward. So many schools of thinking...
I think it depends on what you mean by up or down.... at the end of the day....
Eyes down for squats puts them towards the horizon....Because the tendency is to look at the ceiling
Eyes up for deads... puts them towards the horizon... Because the tendency is to look at your toes...
HMMM1 -
stanmann571 wrote: »spartan546 wrote: »I only wear a belt at 80% rep and above. Coach always says eyes down : squat, up for deads and cleans. For snatches? Straight forward. So many schools of thinking...
I think it depends on what you mean by up or down.... at the end of the day....
Eyes down for squats puts them towards the horizon....Because the tendency is to look at the ceiling
Eyes up for deads... puts them towards the horizon... Because the tendency is to look at your toes...
HMMM
Unless you are trained under Starting Strength & practice hip drive. Eyes down are literally a few feet in front of your toes.
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Ok so I have noticed that my form is starting to drop now the weigh is increasing, what the best way to deal with the weigh whilst I try to correct my form on my squats and deadlift? if I drop the weight slightly but increase to say 7-8 rep instead of the 5 would that have the same affect?
currently I'm on 62kg on squats, and 70kg on deadlift so was thinking of dropping say 10kg on each for a week or so?
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Ok so I have noticed that my form is starting to drop now the weigh is increasing, what the best way to deal with the weigh whilst I try to correct my form on my squats and deadlift? if I drop the weight slightly but increase to say 7-8 rep instead of the 5 would that have the same affect?
currently I'm on 62kg on squats, and 70kg on deadlift so was thinking of dropping say 10kg on each for a week or so?
is your form suffering horribly or is it just off a tad ....?
It is pretty hard to have perfect form with each lift as you increase weight..
if you are off a little then I would say keep the weight the same...if your back is rounding horribly or your form is off so bad that it is noticeable/causing pain, then yes back off...1 -
You should post a video - preferably over to the Eat, Train, Progress group (to avoid certain individuals on the main boards that have no idea what they're talking about) - to get feedback. It might be that you're doing something wrong, it might just be a weak point that needs work, or something else. You really should, IMO, figure out why your form is breaking down and fix it.0
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If your form is off while repping
Try a full reset in between every rep.
It's been previously said, you can spend
Your entire lifting life tweeting and perfecting your form, focus on every lift and don't get complacent0 -
Ok so I have noticed that my form is starting to drop now the weigh is increasing, what the best way to deal with the weigh whilst I try to correct my form on my squats and deadlift? if I drop the weight slightly but increase to say 7-8 rep instead of the 5 would that have the same affect?
currently I'm on 62kg on squats, and 70kg on deadlift so was thinking of dropping say 10kg on each for a week or so?
is your form suffering horribly or is it just off a tad ....?
It is pretty hard to have perfect form with each lift as you increase weight..
if you are off a little then I would say keep the weight the same...if your back is rounding horribly or your form is off so bad that it is noticeable/causing pain, then yes back off...
On monday's session one of the last reps in the squats did twig by back slightly, I new as soon as i started the rep it was going wrong, ended up on my toes at the bottom of the squat.0 -
You should post a video - preferably over to the Eat, Train, Progress group (to avoid certain individuals on the main boards that have no idea what they're talking about) - to get feedback. It might be that you're doing something wrong, it might just be a weak point that needs work, or something else. You really should, IMO, figure out why your form is breaking down and fix it.
I will get a video posted in the group on my next session.0 -
I recommend watching youtube videos from AthleneX, the guy is a RIPPED body builder and a physical therapist, he explains exactly how you should lift to keep from screwing up your body long term. There are small variations in a movement that you won't notice right away (ie. pain etc.), but that can really screw up your joints in the long term!0
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Ok so I have noticed that my form is starting to drop now the weigh is increasing, what the best way to deal with the weigh whilst I try to correct my form on my squats and deadlift? if I drop the weight slightly but increase to say 7-8 rep instead of the 5 would that have the same affect?
currently I'm on 62kg on squats, and 70kg on deadlift so was thinking of dropping say 10kg on each for a week or so?
is your form suffering horribly or is it just off a tad ....?
It is pretty hard to have perfect form with each lift as you increase weight..
if you are off a little then I would say keep the weight the same...if your back is rounding horribly or your form is off so bad that it is noticeable/causing pain, then yes back off...
On monday's session one of the last reps in the squats did twig by back slightly, I new as soon as i started the rep it was going wrong, ended up on my toes at the bottom of the squat.
Have a plan to fail..
And when it goes bad... Use the plan.
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You've got it.Ok so I have noticed that my form is starting to drop now the weigh is increasing, what the best way to deal with the weigh whilst I try to correct my form on my squats and deadlift? if I drop the weight slightly but increase to say 7-8 rep instead of the 5 would that have the same affect?
currently I'm on 62kg on squats, and 70kg on deadlift so was thinking of dropping say 10kg on each for a week or so?
The best way to correct your form on any exercise is to reduce the weight, or alternatively the rest period helps too. "But wait" you say, "won't decreasing the weight mean I'll be losing gains?" No, not necessarily. Anything over about %60 of your 1RM will get you gains and most importantly, lifting through a range of reps, with a range of weights, is an excellent way to progress. So long as you're lifting %60 1RM+ and coming to within 4 reps of failure with good form. What this means is that weekly (or some other duration) volume is the key. There is an optimal range that you need to find for yourself that consists of some number of reps per week at least %60 of 1RM. Its somewhere between 60-120 reps per week for large muscle groups and 30-60 reps per week for small muscle groups.
This means it's totally cool, and won't decrease your gains, to drop the weight and up the reps to correspond to the weight so that you're within 4 reps to failure with good form. Failure is when you're sure the next rep will have bad form.
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stanmann571 wrote: »Ok so I have noticed that my form is starting to drop now the weigh is increasing, what the best way to deal with the weigh whilst I try to correct my form on my squats and deadlift? if I drop the weight slightly but increase to say 7-8 rep instead of the 5 would that have the same affect?
currently I'm on 62kg on squats, and 70kg on deadlift so was thinking of dropping say 10kg on each for a week or so?
is your form suffering horribly or is it just off a tad ....?
It is pretty hard to have perfect form with each lift as you increase weight..
if you are off a little then I would say keep the weight the same...if your back is rounding horribly or your form is off so bad that it is noticeable/causing pain, then yes back off...
On monday's session one of the last reps in the squats did twig by back slightly, I new as soon as i started the rep it was going wrong, ended up on my toes at the bottom of the squat.
Have a plan to fail..
And when it goes bad... Use the plan.
The difficulty with that is knowing when it's going wrong! The rep before was good and I didn't feel as though the next rep was going to be a fail. The weight was more than achievable but something just went wrong on the way down if that make sense.0 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Ok so I have noticed that my form is starting to drop now the weigh is increasing, what the best way to deal with the weigh whilst I try to correct my form on my squats and deadlift? if I drop the weight slightly but increase to say 7-8 rep instead of the 5 would that have the same affect?
currently I'm on 62kg on squats, and 70kg on deadlift so was thinking of dropping say 10kg on each for a week or so?
is your form suffering horribly or is it just off a tad ....?
It is pretty hard to have perfect form with each lift as you increase weight..
if you are off a little then I would say keep the weight the same...if your back is rounding horribly or your form is off so bad that it is noticeable/causing pain, then yes back off...
On monday's session one of the last reps in the squats did twig by back slightly, I new as soon as i started the rep it was going wrong, ended up on my toes at the bottom of the squat.
Have a plan to fail..
And when it goes bad... Use the plan.
The difficulty with that is knowing when it's going wrong! The rep before was good and I didn't feel as though the next rep was going to be a fail. The weight was more than achievable but something just went wrong on the way down if that make sense.
But you said you knew before you got to the bottom it was a bad rep...
Better to dump out than to tweak your back2 -
stanmann571 wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »Ok so I have noticed that my form is starting to drop now the weigh is increasing, what the best way to deal with the weigh whilst I try to correct my form on my squats and deadlift? if I drop the weight slightly but increase to say 7-8 rep instead of the 5 would that have the same affect?
currently I'm on 62kg on squats, and 70kg on deadlift so was thinking of dropping say 10kg on each for a week or so?
is your form suffering horribly or is it just off a tad ....?
It is pretty hard to have perfect form with each lift as you increase weight..
if you are off a little then I would say keep the weight the same...if your back is rounding horribly or your form is off so bad that it is noticeable/causing pain, then yes back off...
On monday's session one of the last reps in the squats did twig by back slightly, I new as soon as i started the rep it was going wrong, ended up on my toes at the bottom of the squat.
Have a plan to fail..
And when it goes bad... Use the plan.
The difficulty with that is knowing when it's going wrong! The rep before was good and I didn't feel as though the next rep was going to be a fail. The weight was more than achievable but something just went wrong on the way down if that make sense.
But you said you knew before you got to the bottom it was a bad rep...
Better to dump out than to tweak your back
Fair enough. Need to look at how I would do that, I only have squat stands so go no place to dump if I need to!!0 -
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quick video of my squat, open to help and advice on the form please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEb8n9c0948
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DresdenSinn wrote: »
I did think that for my knees, how would I correct it? is it the stance I start with, are my feet to far apart?0 -
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Try dropping the weight... and the shoes..
And yes.. work on sitting back, not down.
Also, try to lock in(not quite the right phrase) your pause at the bottom... You're getting low enough, but You're resetting or pausing on the way back up instead of at the bottom, It's most noticeable on your first rep where there's almost a hitch or a bobble as you come back up.0 -
Try squatting in socks or get some flatter shoes like chuck taylors or power lifters...1
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Stance looks good. One key thing I learned along time ago is to concentrate on opening up the hips. It allows greater depth and leeps the weight on your heals.
If you were to sit squat down for a poop would you close up your hips?
As stated dont lock out your knees. Keep the tension on the muscle.1 -
stanmann571 wrote: »Try dropping the weight... and the shoes..
And yes.. work on sitting back, not down.
Also, try to lock in(not quite the right phrase) your pause at the bottom... You're getting low enough, but You're resetting or pausing on the way back up instead of at the bottom, It's most noticeable on your first rep where there's almost a hitch or a bobble as you come back up.
Ok will give it a shot tomorrow, I'm going to drop the weight until I can get it sorted, sitting back feels like I'm leaning forward a lot more with my upper body. I will loses the trainers and try it bear footed.0 -
Also footware is not ideal. But atleast you dont have like an air soled shoe.
But you idealy want flatter soled shoes. Wrestling shoes are good. Or bare feet if you feel comfortable.0 -
My opinion-don't use a belt unless you are getting into the area of heavy lifts, same with wrist and/or knee straps. I believe a belt keeps you from building support/stabilizing muscles that are necessary to make the larger lifts.0
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My opinion-don't use a belt unless you are getting into the area of heavy lifts, same with wrist and/or knee straps. I believe a belt keeps you from building support/stabilizing muscles that are necessary to make the larger lifts.
I tend to agree that you should learn without a belt before you learn to use a belt.0 -
blackcomaro wrote: »Also footware is not ideal. But atleast you dont have like an air soled shoe.
But you idealy want flatter soled shoes. Wrestling shoes are good. Or bare feet if you feel comfortable.
I'm going to try bear foot tomorrow see how I get on if I dont like it I will look at getting some crossfit shoes or something like that.1 -
blackcomaro wrote: »Also footware is not ideal. But atleast you dont have like an air soled shoe.
But you idealy want flatter soled shoes. Wrestling shoes are good. Or bare feet if you feel comfortable.
I'm going to try bear foot tomorrow see how I get on if I dont like it I will look at getting some crossfit shoes or something like that.
Drop the weight and the belt. Stretch the ish out of your calves and your hip flexors between warm up sets. Like others have said, think about your butt coming back first and driving your knees out on the way up (should help feel your glutes on the way up).0
https://youtu.be/9T-zHRO42rY
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