I have an unusual allergy thus here is my question...
Purple_Dracholic
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I recently found out I am allergic to black pepper. A lot of recipes that I find have black pepper in them. I know I could just withhold it but it does change the taste. Does anyone have any recipes where withholding the pepper will not matter? I do like garlic if that helps. Thanks in advance!
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I never use pepper, so I don't see how it's necessary to add to any dish. You should be just fine without it.2
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Can you swap it out for white or green pepper?1
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Are you also allergic to red pepper and paprika? I often use paprika in dishes that call for black pepper.
Another savory possibility is cumin. Or if what you want is a sharp, piquant taste, something like fresh ginger might help. It would change the flavor profile significantly, but it wouldn't be bland.1 -
I am not sure if I can swap it for white or green pepper. My doctor has me carrying an epi pen. It is not to the point where I need it yet but they worry that it will be if I keep getting more into my system. Also I don't know about other peppers because I don't like spicy. As for paprika I have had that and have not noticed an issue. Thanks all for the advice. My allergy now makes going out very hard to do lol. Now that I am watching what I eat makes it harder still lol.1
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I'm particularly fond of Aleppo pepper, pepper from Turkey. It has a taste similar to paprika, rich and deep without being too hot. Penzey's has it, and you can find it on Amazon. There are both hot and mild paprikas; the best are from Hungary. A good paprika has a lot more depth and complexity of flavor than you'll find in low-end grocery brands and is worth the investment.
White pepper is made from black pepper with the hull taken off, and pink pepper is a different species from the same family as black pepper -- so I'd avoid both of them. But paprika, chipotle pepper, jalapeños, bell peppers, banana peppers and the like are all related to each other but not to the black pepper plant, which is why you're OK for them. Sichuan (szechuan) pepper is not related to black pepper, so you might be OK with it -- but the taste is *very* different.5 -
It's hard to imagine a recipe you couldn't leave the black pepper out of. Even a black-pepper coated steak could be coated in something else or not coated at all. Yes, the taste would be different but that's not the issue here.1
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I'm wondering if it makes a difference when black pepper is used as part of a recipe, as opposed to being sprinkled on food just before eating. For example, you cook a batch of soup or stew and add pepper before simmering, by which the effects of the pepper would disappear by the time the meal is ready to eat.
It might be worth to investigate this.0 -
I saw on a cooking show years ago that the spice "grains of paradise" was the first pepper or commonly used like pepper many many years ago. I think it got expensive or something like that. You might research that. I bought some from Spice House to mix with pepper in my pepper grinder per the TV chef's recommendation.1
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I'm particularly fond of Aleppo pepper, pepper from Turkey. It has a taste similar to paprika, rich and deep without being too hot. Penzey's has it, and you can find it on Amazon. There are both hot and mild paprikas; the best are from Hungary. A good paprika has a lot more depth and complexity of flavor than you'll find in low-end grocery brands and is worth the investment.
White pepper is made from black pepper with the hull taken off, and pink pepper is a different species from the same family as black pepper -- so I'd avoid both of them. But paprika, chipotle pepper, jalapeños, bell peppers, banana peppers and the like are all related to each other but not to the black pepper plant, which is why you're OK for them. Sichuan (szechuan) pepper is not related to black pepper, so you might be OK with it -- but the taste is *very* different.
Thanks so much for this info I had no clue about the families.
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You will likely have to resort to home cooking for most meals.
If you don't like spicy food then I think you are golden. Simply skip the pepper in the recipe. It will taste blander, but you like bland!
If it turns out you are OK with paprika, it is milder than black pepper so you are still golden. Smoked paprika is very tasty.
Just skip the pepper:
http://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/canal-house-classic-vinaigrette
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blueeyetea wrote: »I'm wondering if it makes a difference when black pepper is used as part of a recipe, as opposed to being sprinkled on food just before eating. For example, you cook a batch of soup or stew and add pepper before simmering, by which the effects of the pepper would disappear by the time the meal is ready to eat.
It might be worth to investigate this.
It doesn't make a difference if it is on or in when I ingest any I get really stuffed up due to swelling in my nostril area. The doc is worried it will eventually travel to my treat and that will start closing up too.0 -
You will likely have to resort to home cooking for most meals.
If you don't like spicy food then I think you are golden. Simply skip the pepper in the recipe. It will taste blander, but you like bland!
If it turns out you are OK with paprika, it is milder than black pepper so you are still golden. Smoked paprika is very tasty.
Just skip the pepper:
http://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/canal-house-classic-vinaigrette
Well I am not saying I like bland lol I just don't like spicy lol.1 -
So somewhere between spicy and bland but not totally bland. Paprika may be your spice then.
I had a whole range of spices to suggest for you but you would likely find them too spicy. I am rather fond of the whole range of curries and mustards right now. I made a potato pie with buckwheat and Garam Masala, slow roasting it on my cast iron frying pan. Oh, the aromas!
But this thread is not about me.
Paprika.1 -
If you like flavour but not the spice, skip pepper/spicy altogether and just move to garlic, onion, curry, cinnamon, mustards, etc. You can certainly flavour-up any dish without using any form of pepper. Cinnamon surprised me the most. A tiny hint of it tastes really good in red meat dishes.0
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Don't like black pepper.love turmeric. Different taste, but good.
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Interesting! I was going to suggest white pepper, but I saw that somebody else already suggested it. How did you find out about that allergy? Maybe not adding pepper is the best idea unless I could test you for the other peppers.0
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Papaya seeds are a great substitute for black pepper. Very close in taste, texture, and colour. Each time you buy a papaya rinse the seeds and let them air dry over night. Then grind or place in spice mill.0
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Pepper and peppers don't sit well with me ... I simply avoid them.
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Might be easier to switch to a new recipe than finding pepper replacement. Fish you can try lime juice. Steak you may try using basil and thyme more. Poultry can try to sir fried it with garlic then add like 1/4 of white wine and lid on for few min. Salad might try vinegar based dressing.
Black pepper is not too big in Chinese cooking. At least my grandma never use it other than deep fried foods. Perhaps you could try to look into some other countries' recipe for idea.
Miso, soy sauce, oyster sauce, rice wine, teriyaki sauce, black bean paste, lime juice, dried orange peel, curry, nut meg, these are my typical go to spices.
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Thanks so much for this article
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Thanks everyone for all of your suggestions. I really appreciate it.0
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You can almost always miss out pepper without serious problems. Steak Au Poivre is an exception...
If you want an alternative, experiment. I agree cumin could be a good alternative. Or try coriander seed.1 -
Thanks!!!0
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Why am I getting a woo tag for suggesting you shouldn't miss out pepper in Steak au Poivre?
Quick tip, people: if it contains no objective truth claims, it can't be woo.0 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Why am I getting a woo tag for suggesting you shouldn't miss out pepper in Steak au Poivre?
Quick tip, people: if it contains no objective truth claims, it can't be woo.
Apparently some use it as a positive (like woo hoo). It is confusing at times.0 -
I guess it depends on the recipe. You could leave it out entirely and get used to it.
You might try ginger or horseradish in some things.
Garlic, onion, lemon or lime juice, vinegars should make things less bland.
You might use herbs to add more flavor. http://www.herbbee.com/quick-guide-to-common-herbs-and-their-uses-in-recipes-and-cooking/0
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