Wait before eating breakfast or best to eat as soon as possible?
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Cleansing is a myth along with the green tea boost. Drink them cause you like them, but the reality is that you're just drinking more water.FlavourfulBear wrote: »I know people's bodies are different and I haven't been having any personal problems with the way I've been eating, (except recently I have been experiencing difficulty with self-control which I'm working on >.<), but the reason I'm making this post is because I want to know if what I've been doing might be unhealthy.
When I wake up I drink an 8 oz glass of warm lemon water to cleanse, wait about 20 minutes, have a cup of green tea for a metabolic boost, wait another 20 - 30 minutes then have a glass of water before eating breakfast and after another 30 minutes after eating I do a morning workout.
Basically, my body goes about an hour and 30 minutes before actually eating something, during which I've consumed nothing but fluids after I wake up.
I ask because someone said that you should eat as soon as you can after waking up to stop your body from entering starvation mode. Does fluid curtail this or does the body need actual solids?
I'm still losing weight (when I'm practicing self-control XD) but I still want my body to be healthy, not just lean. Am I putting my long-term health at risk if I keep doing this?
And "starvation mode" is also another myth.
Personally, I don't eat until after 12pm and train every morning with a wake up time of 6am...........for years.
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FlavourfulBear wrote: »
Don't do it in green tea though, it overwhelms the flavor.
You can also throw a slice in your plain water to give it a little flavor. Or, you can make lemonade. (1 part fresh squeezed lemon juice, 1 part sweetener of your choice, 4 parts water)
ETA: "sweetener of choice means 1 part sugar, if you use it, or the equivalent of artificial sweetener to that amount of sugar if that s what you prefer.
I'll keep that in mind and, considering I drink a lot of water during the day it will give me something to do with them, and put a little slice on the glass just to be fancy. XDkommodevaran wrote: »
Wow, I loved this response! Did you know that you're the 1 in 1000* who's actually open to take in a new perspective?
I too feel such a relief by not thinking I have to eat a certain number of meals to prevent "slowing my metabolism" or risk overeating later, while in fact, I usually get increased appetite whenever I eat - so for me, fewer but larger meals is better.
*89% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
Ha ha, yeah I like to learn about and try new things, especially if what I've been believing the whole time was bro-science. But this, Whoo! You have no idea how free I feel now that I am not locked into a schedule of eat at X time immediately after waking up, drink X minutes before eating and workout X minutes immediately after eating. It's stressful.
And thanks to everyone sharing their eating habits as well! I'm happy to know I wasn't 'doing it wrong'.
I LOVE open, inquisitive minds. Keep it up and you will go far, grasshopper.
The CI<CO equation is absolute for weight loss, but it is a somewhat fluid equation. Most people calculate it over a 24 hour period, but some do a couple of days and some even a week. As long as you are taking in fewer calories than you burn in whatever time frame you are looking at you will lose. The rest, like meal timing, workout timing, etc. is very individual.4 -
animatorswearbras wrote: »FlavourfulBear wrote: »
I do like tea. I love tea actually. Good to know I don't have to do the lemon water thing anymore though.
Well, you COULD be like my very British former roommate and drink your tea with lemon
I'm British and I don't know anyone that drinks tea with lemon, black tea (preferably yorkshire) with milk and sugar and you can burn in the fiery pits of hell if you put the milk in before the water lol. ;P
LOL. I asked her about the fact that she drinks it with lemon instead of milk and she said that is how everyone in her family always drank their tea: lemon and sugar. She even was given tea like that in her baby bottle. It has been 30 years so I don't remember where in England she is from. I seem to remember some port city in the Northeast but could easily be wrong.
Wow that's surprising, if I was to guess on someone drinking tea with lemon it would be some upper class Southern type who doesn't use teabags and buys hand mixed Earl Grey blends from specialist tea shops. :P
Port cities in the North East like Redcar are stereotypically salt of the earth types. I'm from York so not far away geographically. I guess there's always different habits in different families.
Sorry to derail your thread OP I'm glad you got the info you needed by the way and don't have to worry about cleanses, boosts and meal timings anymore. To be fair I've started drinking gingerbread green tea recently because I realised I was drinking the best part of 200 cals with milk and sugar in my tea and am trying to wean myself onto 1 cal teas to alternate with my 6 cuppa a day habit. :P 1 -
animatorswearbras wrote: »
Sorry to derail your thread OP I'm glad you got the info you needed by the way and don't have to worry about cleanses, boosts and meal timings anymore. To be fair I've started drinking gingerbread green tea recently because I realised I was drinking the best part of 200 cals with milk and sugar in my tea and am trying to wean myself onto 1 cal teas to alternate with my 6 cuppa a day habit. :P
Oh no, it's fine. I've got the answers to my question and am still gaining new information (even if it's not directly related to the topic) so feel free to discuss what you like. 3 -
FlavourfulBear wrote: »animatorswearbras wrote: »
Sorry to derail your thread OP I'm glad you got the info you needed by the way and don't have to worry about cleanses, boosts and meal timings anymore. To be fair I've started drinking gingerbread green tea recently because I realised I was drinking the best part of 200 cals with milk and sugar in my tea and am trying to wean myself onto 1 cal teas to alternate with my 6 cuppa a day habit. :P
Oh no, it's fine. I've got the answers to my question and am still gaining new information (even if it's not directly related to the topic) so feel free to discuss what you like.
Well, you ARE the one who brought up tea
Anyway, threads like these get to be fun as we see what directions they go in after the original question has come to a satisfactory conclusion.
ps: I am a tea snob. I only drink loose leaf brewed in one of my several Yixing teapots. I try to not be obnoxious about it and never refuse the offer of a teabag when visiting someone else.3 -
FlavourfulBear wrote: »animatorswearbras wrote: »
Sorry to derail your thread OP I'm glad you got the info you needed by the way and don't have to worry about cleanses, boosts and meal timings anymore. To be fair I've started drinking gingerbread green tea recently because I realised I was drinking the best part of 200 cals with milk and sugar in my tea and am trying to wean myself onto 1 cal teas to alternate with my 6 cuppa a day habit. :P
Oh no, it's fine. I've got the answers to my question and am still gaining new information (even if it's not directly related to the topic) so feel free to discuss what you like.
Well, you ARE the one who brought up tea
Anyway, threads like these get to be fun as we see what directions they go in after the original question has come to a satisfactory conclusion.
ps: I am a tea snob. I only drink loose leaf brewed in one of my several Yixing teapots. I try to not be obnoxious about it and never refuse the offer of a teabag when visiting someone else.
To be fair you're probably doing it right, I'm sure it's much nicer than the mass manufactured crap I get through (although I try to buy fair trade, soil association tea) 0 -
animatorswearbras wrote: »FlavourfulBear wrote: »animatorswearbras wrote: »
Sorry to derail your thread OP I'm glad you got the info you needed by the way and don't have to worry about cleanses, boosts and meal timings anymore. To be fair I've started drinking gingerbread green tea recently because I realised I was drinking the best part of 200 cals with milk and sugar in my tea and am trying to wean myself onto 1 cal teas to alternate with my 6 cuppa a day habit. :P
Oh no, it's fine. I've got the answers to my question and am still gaining new information (even if it's not directly related to the topic) so feel free to discuss what you like.
Well, you ARE the one who brought up tea
Anyway, threads like these get to be fun as we see what directions they go in after the original question has come to a satisfactory conclusion.
ps: I am a tea snob. I only drink loose leaf brewed in one of my several Yixing teapots. I try to not be obnoxious about it and never refuse the offer of a teabag when visiting someone else.
To be fair you're probably doing it right, I'm sure it's much nicer than the mass manufactured crap I get through (although I try to buy fair trade, soil association tea)
Sometimes it is the process I enjoy as much as the drinking itself. There is something a bit "zen" about brewing a pot of tea.0 -
Well, you ARE the one who brought up tea
Anyway, threads like these get to be fun as we see what directions they go in after the original question has come to a satisfactory conclusion.
ps: I am a tea snob. I only drink loose leaf brewed in one of my several Yixing teapots. I try to not be obnoxious about it and never refuse the offer of a teabag when visiting someone else.
Ah, sorry I didn't mean it like that, as if the thread was derailed. >.<
I parenthesized to say that even if we ended up somehow talking about puppies I wouldn't mind. I did mention tea and the conversation naturally branched from there and I was also gaining new information which is always a bonus.
For example, now I have to go look up a Yixing teapot. Our tea-drinking here is primarily British so we use the teabags, milk and it's usually green tea, moringa, chamomile, etc.
I should try the looseleaf varieties though. It's mostly due to convenience because the store near hear doesn't sell them, I think I know where to buy them but I'd have to check to be sure.0 -
animatorswearbras wrote: »FlavourfulBear wrote: »
I do like tea. I love tea actually. Good to know I don't have to do the lemon water thing anymore though.
Well, you COULD be like my very British former roommate and drink your tea with lemon
I'm British and I don't know anyone that drinks tea with lemon, black tea (preferably yorkshire) with milk and sugar and you can burn in the fiery pits of hell if you put the milk in before the water lol. ;P
I know a few soft southeners who drink it with lemon
Personally i think sugar in tea is wrong and milk definitely goes in last lol0 -
FlavourfulBear wrote: »
Well, you ARE the one who brought up tea
Anyway, threads like these get to be fun as we see what directions they go in after the original question has come to a satisfactory conclusion.
ps: I am a tea snob. I only drink loose leaf brewed in one of my several Yixing teapots. I try to not be obnoxious about it and never refuse the offer of a teabag when visiting someone else.
Ah, sorry I didn't mean it like that, as if the thread was derailed. >.<
I parenthesized to say that even if we ended up somehow talking about puppies I wouldn't mind. I did mention tea and the conversation naturally branched from there and I was also gaining new information which is always a bonus.
For example, now I have to go look up a Yixing teapot. Our tea-drinking here is primarily British so we use the teabags, milk and it's usually green tea, moringa, chamomile, etc.
I should try the looseleaf varieties though. It's mostly due to convenience because the store near hear doesn't sell them, I think I know where to buy them but I'd have to check to be sure.
I was teasing you. Sorry it came across as otherwise. I was trying to make the point that once the question or concern is taken care of, these threads can go into all kinds of fun and fascinating directions (although we tend to post more cat pictures than puppy pictures). Some of the best threads are the ones that get "derailed". This one (so far) has gone in the direction of tea. One of my favorites on another board went into a discussion of how to separate two glass measuring cups that got stuck together and ended up with a silly discussion of chastity belts for goldfish.3 -
animatorswearbras wrote: »animatorswearbras wrote: »FlavourfulBear wrote: »
I do like tea. I love tea actually. Good to know I don't have to do the lemon water thing anymore though.
Well, you COULD be like my very British former roommate and drink your tea with lemon
I'm British and I don't know anyone that drinks tea with lemon, black tea (preferably yorkshire) with milk and sugar and you can burn in the fiery pits of hell if you put the milk in before the water lol. ;P
LOL. I asked her about the fact that she drinks it with lemon instead of milk and she said that is how everyone in her family always drank their tea: lemon and sugar. She even was given tea like that in her baby bottle. It has been 30 years so I don't remember where in England she is from. I seem to remember some port city in the Northeast but could easily be wrong.
Wow that's surprising, if I was to guess on someone drinking tea with lemon it would be some upper class Southern type who doesn't use teabags and buys hand mixed Earl Grey blends from specialist tea shops. :P
Port cities in the North East like Redcar are stereotypically salt of the earth types. I'm from York so not far away geographically. I guess there's always different habits in different families.
Sorry to derail your thread OP I'm glad you got the info you needed by the way and don't have to worry about cleanses, boosts and meal timings anymore. To be fair I've started drinking gingerbread green tea recently because I realised I was drinking the best part of 200 cals with milk and sugar in my tea and am trying to wean myself onto 1 cal teas to alternate with my 6 cuppa a day habit. :P
Unsavoury Southern type here and I do on occasion drink PG tips with a bit of almond milk (IBS). Never occurred to me to put lemon in black tea but it makes sense. My family is working class so it was all teabags, 2 sugars and a dash of milk - you can literally put this cup of tea down in front of anyone in my family and they will drink it - until I reached my 20s and discovered loose leaf tea, specifically Christmas (cinnamon, clove, yumminess)/Chai blends and I kind of refuse to drink anything else now. The one teabag tea I do love is Rose Lemonade by Taylor's.
As far as eating breakfast goes, OP, I like to front load - eat most of my calories in the morning - and work my way to a small dinner. I don't eat after 8pm atm because I'm recovering from an appendectomy and sleeping on my belly with food in it was painful and now it's just habit. So really it takes all sorts, just do what works for you.1 -
Don't listen to these negative comments about lemon water and green tea. They do aid in metabolism and weight loss. Obvi not a fix all but they aren't hurting you.
Just eat when you are hungry and don't eat when you aren't, stay mindful of portions. Intermittent fasting is amazing in my opinion, only if you do it correctly.11 -
lexidanko14 wrote: »Don't listen to these negative comments about lemon water and green tea. They do aid in metabolism and weight loss. Obvi not a fix all but they aren't hurting you.
Just eat when you are hungry and don't eat when you aren't, stay mindful of portions. Intermittent fasting is amazing in my opinion, only if you do it correctly.
You are right in that they aren't hurting her. You are wrong in that they don't aid weight loss except as an alternative to high calorie beverages.3 -
Really? I see no negativity, just educated and experienced responses debunking obvious woo. OP is incredibly good natured.lexidanko14 wrote: »Don't listen to these negative comments about lemon water and green tea. They do aid in metabolism and weight loss. Obvi not a fix all but they aren't hurting you.
Post reputable proof, please. @lexidanko14
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Earinabby: Interesting about the protein and carb for breakfast gives you a lower glucose number than no breakfast at all. Thanks for info 0
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lexidanko14 wrote: »Don't listen to these negative comments about lemon water and green tea. They do aid in metabolism and weight loss. Obvi not a fix all but they aren't hurting you.
Just eat when you are hungry and don't eat when you aren't, stay mindful of portions. Intermittent fasting is amazing in my opinion, only if you do it correctly.
No one said they were harmful, they just don't help. Additionally, the OP is relieved to not have to put this much worry into thinking about when to eat and what to eat. Sounded like she was overwhelmed a bit by her existing routine (correct me if I'm wrong).
Intermittent fasting is one way to reduce calories. It may also work with some appetite control, but at the end of the day, a calorie reduction is needed to lose weight.
I'm not sure why you think OP getting the support she needs (and is obviously happy with) is negative.5 -
I'm sure this would give tea purists the vapors, but my idea of a hot cup of tea puts the bag in, then the water, then nukes it in the microwave. DON'T remove the bag until you go to wash the cup! Just drink the tea with the bag in there. When my brother drinks a second cup of tea, he leaves the first teabag in the cup and adds another. I am not quite that reckless. LOL2
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150poundsofme wrote: »Earinabby: Interesting about the protein and carb for breakfast gives you a lower glucose number than no breakfast at all. Thanks for info
I have also noticed that some of my highest numbers are after my long workout at the pool. I swim laps for an hour and go into a 55 minute water aerobics class. I am usually in the 140's when I get home, then it drops as I rest.
My doctor (a Certified Diabetic Specialist) explained it like this: it takes about 15-20 minutes of activity for the glucose in your system to be depleted. Either you need to eat to replenish it, or your liver triggers your body to release the stored glucose, which it then uses for energy. There is a constant cycling of storing and using in everyone. Diabetics (whether caused by not enough insulin or by resistance to the insulin produced) have problems with this cycle which is why too much glucose circulates in the bloodstream. As long as the numbers drop after eating or exercising, I am OK.1 -
HeidiCooksSupper wrote: »I'm sure this would give tea purists the vapors, but my idea of a hot cup of tea puts the bag in, then the water, then nukes it in the microwave. DON'T remove the bag until you go to wash the cup! Just drink the tea with the bag in there. When my brother drinks a second cup of tea, he leaves the first teabag in the cup and adds another. I am not quite that reckless. LOL
I have a tea press, and will throw three tea bags in there, cover in boiling water, and let it sit until I'm ready to drink it. When I'm on early morning shift, I make it the night before! And yes, I've left the old bag in with the new one.
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