Going to try going vegan.
dieorloseit
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I am going to try going vegan. I have high blood pressure and tried a few diets to lower it but never as of yet. I have been reading a lot on it and talking to a lot of people who do the Dr McDougall diet with great bp lowering results.
If any members are vegans and would allow me to add them as a friend so I can see your diary it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
If any members are vegans and would allow me to add them as a friend so I can see your diary it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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I'm not a vegan but I'm going to start trying to eat a more vegan diet. Feel free to follow along
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If you have tried prescriptive diets before and not succeeded, do you think yet another prescriptive diet is the way to go? Going vegan is a moral statement, not something you should do for health. It's also a restrictive diet, that will be difficult unless you have the moral incentive. If you have failed to stick to diets before, you will fail again. Do you want to set our for yet another failure?
Your diet is what you eat. You decide what to eat and not to eat. Your health will improve when you eat healthily, consistently. There's an almost infinite way to eat healthily, but you can only eat healthily consistently if you eat in a way you like. Contrary to common belief, eating right is not supposed to be or feel like a punishment. There is a lot of false information out there, and it is aimed directly at deperate and insecure people. Please make an effort to base your decision on sound and balanced information and your own preferences and values.13 -
Op-McDougall's plan is very restrictive and most likely not sustainable long term. With your high bp didn't your doctor talk to you about the DASH diet? It's the eating plan that's usually recommended to patients with high bp. It's a more common sense, realistic woe that has been proven to lower bp. I follow it as a template for a healthy eating plan and it's very easy to follow and not overly restrictive at all.2
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I'm not vegan but we don't eat meat at home and get a lot of great meal ideas from a (vegan) YouTuber named Kicki Yang Zhang.
She's done many different types of videos and vlogs, but the really helpful ones are her "What I eat in a Day" and such...there are tons of them. I like that she uses a lot of common sense, practical and creative meal ideas. I follow some other vegan YouTube folks who are all about the super expensive prepared foods, fads, etc. Or they seriously eat just potatoes & watermelon it seems.
Kicki is a young trendy type but her diet is based on more basics and ethnic Asian stuff that is inexpensive and easy to recreate without difficult recipes. Good visual style too. Maybe check it out.
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What helped my blood pressure was more regular exercise. Best of luck to you!2
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kommodevaran wrote: »If you have tried prescriptive diets before and not succeeded, do you think yet another prescriptive diet is the way to go? Going vegan is a moral statement, not something you should do for health. It's also a restrictive diet, that will be difficult unless you have the moral incentive. If you have failed to stick to diets before, you will fail again. Do you want to set our for yet another failure?
Your diet is what you eat. You decide what to eat and not to eat. Your health will improve when you eat healthily, consistently. There's an almost infinite way to eat healthily, but you can only eat healthily consistently if you eat in a way you like. Contrary to common belief, eating right is not supposed to be or feel like a punishment. There is a lot of false information out there, and it is aimed directly at deperate and insecure people. Please make an effort to base your decision on sound and balanced information and your own preferences and values.
im vegan 3 years now and trust me, its ANYTHINNG but restrictive....
its just the opposite.
restrictive is the standard western diet not full enough of whole plant foods...
as a vegan im eating burritos pizzas, burgers ,veggie bowls ,nicecream bowls full of superfoods ,nuts ,grains, seeds, fruits ,veggies ,smoothies, cereals ,tacos , oil free sweet potato fries, many pastas, spagettis , hugeee salads, breads, raw food bars ,
for junk im still eating chocolate (searh dairy free ones, youd be surprised) oreos certain doritos chips , anything trust me just look and youll slowly see how much we can actually eat!
try follow youtubers that post what i eat in a day videos:
naturally stephanie
Maddie Lymburner
high carb hannah
thriving on plants
ashleys green life
hot for food
freelee recipe videos
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Not eating animal product is great for animals, our planet and you. Just be careful, you can eat vegan and still eat bad stuff for your body e.g. too many processed foods and fake meats etc.
I think is good to eat this vegan junk food once in a while, especially if the transition is hard (you crave nuggets or a burger - which you can actually make at home and it's much tastier than the store ones) but if you really care about your health then try to mostly stick to a whole food plant based diet.6 -
My wife lost weight and her blood pressure went down a bunch - all the way to normal - and she was still heavier than she should have been.
I lost 75 pounds years ago (now at 6'0" and 172 lbs). I cycle, swim, and run very regularly. In fact I just completed a Sprint Triathlon 3 weeks ago. Even though I am very fit with a resting pulse of 60 bpm, my blood pressure still requires medicine to keep it down.
My high BP is hereditary. Yours may be too. It might be worth a trip to the doctor to find out.
BTW - my BP medicine is like taking a placebo - sort of. Other than being a diuretic and causing me to take a couple more trips to the restroom each day, I notice no difference at all.
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The DASH diet really works. I still eat grilled chicken and salmon I make myself.2
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melissalatzel25 wrote: »freelee recipe videos
Nope. Just Nope!!!!
This may be the first time I have agreed with you, but I can't agree with you more here.4 -
melissalatzel25 wrote: »freelee recipe videos
Nope. Just Nope!!!!
I don't even know what a Freelee recipe video would be . . . does she just peel a bunch of bananas and throw them in a bowl?7 -
Weight loss ,DASH diet and exercise have successfully lowered my high blood pressure. Preparing your own meals vs eating out is also helpful to control your sodium intake. Good luck!3
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And remember, just because it's labeled "Vegan" doesn't mean it's healthy. Ruffles chips are vegan. Focus on a whole foods, plant based diet. Prepare your own meals and you will know what is exactly in them.0
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LifeWithChange93 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »melissalatzel25 wrote: »freelee recipe videos
Nope. Just Nope!!!!
I don't even know what a Freelee recipe video would be . . . does she just peel a bunch of bananas and throw them in a bowl?
She started the Raw till 4 diet. You eat nothing but raw foods until 4 o'clock and then after 4 o'clock you can eat anything that's vegan. She gave up the 80/10/10 diet
I know who she is. I was making a joke about what her recipes would be like given her overall dietary recommendations.
And unless her plan has changed, she doesn't say you can eat anything that is vegan after 4 PM. Her website says that daily fat intake should be under 10% of calories, that only "whole" and "unprocessed" foods should be eaten, no sweets or fruit after the cooked dinner, and to avoid beans if possible.
So a typical vegan dinner for me (higher fat, including beans and some processed foods, sometimes with a dessert of fruits or baked goods) wouldn't be part of her plan.
Has she revised her Raw Til 4 principles?
http://rawtill4diet.com/raw-till-4-principles/2 -
melissalatzel25 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »If you have tried prescriptive diets before and not succeeded, do you think yet another prescriptive diet is the way to go? Going vegan is a moral statement, not something you should do for health. It's also a restrictive diet, that will be difficult unless you have the moral incentive. If you have failed to stick to diets before, you will fail again. Do you want to set our for yet another failure?
Your diet is what you eat. You decide what to eat and not to eat. Your health will improve when you eat healthily, consistently. There's an almost infinite way to eat healthily, but you can only eat healthily consistently if you eat in a way you like. Contrary to common belief, eating right is not supposed to be or feel like a punishment. There is a lot of false information out there, and it is aimed directly at deperate and insecure people. Please make an effort to base your decision on sound and balanced information and your own preferences and values.
im vegan 3 years now and trust me, its ANYTHINNG but restrictive....
its just the opposite.
restrictive is the standard western diet not full enough of whole plant foods...
as a vegan im eating burritos pizzas, burgers ,veggie bowls ,nicecream bowls full of superfoods ,nuts ,grains, seeds, fruits ,veggies ,smoothies, cereals ,tacos , oil free sweet potato fries, many pastas, spagettis , hugeee salads, breads, raw food bars ,
for junk im still eating chocolate (searh dairy free ones, youd be surprised) oreos certain doritos chips , anything trust me just look and youll slowly see how much we can actually eat!
try follow youtubers that post what i eat in a day videos:
naturally stephanie
Maddie Lymburner
high carb hannah
thriving on plants
ashleys green life
hot for food
freelee recipe videos
Then I think my "western diet" isn't restrictive at all. I get to eat all that, PLUS animal products.
Veganism is great if that's what you want to do, but calling an all-inclusive diet "restrictive" makes zero sense.2 -
melissalatzel25 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »If you have tried prescriptive diets before and not succeeded, do you think yet another prescriptive diet is the way to go? Going vegan is a moral statement, not something you should do for health. It's also a restrictive diet, that will be difficult unless you have the moral incentive. If you have failed to stick to diets before, you will fail again. Do you want to set our for yet another failure?
Your diet is what you eat. You decide what to eat and not to eat. Your health will improve when you eat healthily, consistently. There's an almost infinite way to eat healthily, but you can only eat healthily consistently if you eat in a way you like. Contrary to common belief, eating right is not supposed to be or feel like a punishment. There is a lot of false information out there, and it is aimed directly at deperate and insecure people. Please make an effort to base your decision on sound and balanced information and your own preferences and values.
im vegan 3 years now and trust me, its ANYTHINNG but restrictive....
its just the opposite.
restrictive is the standard western diet not full enough of whole plant foods...
as a vegan im eating burritos pizzas, burgers ,veggie bowls ,nicecream bowls full of superfoods ,nuts ,grains, seeds, fruits ,veggies ,smoothies, cereals ,tacos , oil free sweet potato fries, many pastas, spagettis , hugeee salads, breads, raw food bars ,
for junk im still eating chocolate (searh dairy free ones, youd be surprised) oreos certain doritos chips , anything trust me just look and youll slowly see how much we can actually eat!
try follow youtubers that post what i eat in a day videos:
naturally stephanie
Maddie Lymburner
high carb hannah
thriving on plants
ashleys green life
hot for food
freelee recipe videos
If someone isn't eating enough fruit and veg, it's not because of "restriction"...like there's nothing in the Western diet handbook that says you can't eat plants...conversely, you cannot eat animal products if you are a vegan which by definition would be restrictive..ie you are restricted in what you are allowed to eat...
I'm an omnivore and eat a crap ton of plants too...
and Lol at Freelee...3 -
PaulaWallaDingDong wrote: »melissalatzel25 wrote: »kommodevaran wrote: »If you have tried prescriptive diets before and not succeeded, do you think yet another prescriptive diet is the way to go? Going vegan is a moral statement, not something you should do for health. It's also a restrictive diet, that will be difficult unless you have the moral incentive. If you have failed to stick to diets before, you will fail again. Do you want to set our for yet another failure?
Your diet is what you eat. You decide what to eat and not to eat. Your health will improve when you eat healthily, consistently. There's an almost infinite way to eat healthily, but you can only eat healthily consistently if you eat in a way you like. Contrary to common belief, eating right is not supposed to be or feel like a punishment. There is a lot of false information out there, and it is aimed directly at deperate and insecure people. Please make an effort to base your decision on sound and balanced information and your own preferences and values.
im vegan 3 years now and trust me, its ANYTHINNG but restrictive....
its just the opposite.
restrictive is the standard western diet not full enough of whole plant foods...
as a vegan im eating burritos pizzas, burgers ,veggie bowls ,nicecream bowls full of superfoods ,nuts ,grains, seeds, fruits ,veggies ,smoothies, cereals ,tacos , oil free sweet potato fries, many pastas, spagettis , hugeee salads, breads, raw food bars ,
for junk im still eating chocolate (searh dairy free ones, youd be surprised) oreos certain doritos chips , anything trust me just look and youll slowly see how much we can actually eat!
try follow youtubers that post what i eat in a day videos:
naturally stephanie
Maddie Lymburner
high carb hannah
thriving on plants
ashleys green life
hot for food
freelee recipe videos
Then I think my "western diet" isn't restrictive at all. I get to eat all that, PLUS animal products.
Veganism is great if that's what you want to do, but calling an all-inclusive diet "restrictive" makes zero sense.
Yeah, I mean, I love being vegan and I don't really miss anything. But it's illogical to deny that non-vegans can eat everything that vegans can plus some other things.
An individual non-vegan may choose not to eat certain things . . . but there is no guarantee that an individual vegan is eating those things either.
A non-vegan diet can absolutely be full of whole plant foods.1
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